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the competition started yesterday, with Ireland just managing a last-ball win in comical scenes after stumbling a bit at the end of their run-chase over Zimbabwe. anyway, a great and vital win for the boys in green.

i've become a big fan of cricket in the lesser countries - i guess it's a little akin to lower-league football. the ICC are taking weird protective directions with their "global" tournaments. this "16-team tournament" was sneakily changed (last year i think) into a two-round tournament, with Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and six associate member qualifiers having to participate in an extra qualifying round at the tournament. Ireland now have to progress past UAE and Netherlands in their group to qualify, while the hosts(!) have to beat Nepal and Hong Kong, having already beaten Afghanistan in the first game yesterday...

why? why not just have four groups of four? or two groups of eight? or whatever. "they'd only lose" hasn't stopped the football world cup including various standards of countries in their global tournaments. i think it's a real shame that Nepal and Hong Kong aren't getting their chance on their big stage, despite having already "qualified" last year (from the Associate qualifier).

it's so frustrating to see cricket shooting itself in the foot.

on the eve of the tournament, i saw the best article yet on the ICC's farcical "restructure" and how it's let a lot of these smaller countries down - http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/727223.html

the guy (Tim Wigmore) breaks it down superbly, building the case with the relevant numbers too, before coming to the depressing conclusion...

The new world order risks entrenching the fundamental inequity in the treatment of the leading Associates and the worst- performing Full Members. Even if Afghanistan defeated Zimbabwe in the Test playoff and in every ODI between the sides, they would still receive around $20 million every eight years - while Zimbabwe, regardless of performance, would receive over $70 million. There is no sign of how this could ever change: the new ICC plans don't even contain a token mention of how any new country could obtain Full Member status.

For all the ICC's lofty rhetoric about "meritocracy" and expanding the game, a profound funding gap, unrelated to performance, would remain at the heart of international cricket. But it's not only Afghanistan and Ireland who should feel aggrieved: the 90 lowest-ranked cricketing nations, who carry with them cricket's dreams of becoming a genuinely global game, have cause for profound despair.
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I don't see why this first week couldn't have been done months ago as a pre qualifying tournament? It doesn't really feel like it has started yet properly whilst it's just the minnows playing each other and can't be good for viewing figures.

You'd expect Bangladesh and Ireland to qualify.
 

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didn't realise England are currently playing a warm up game against India right now.

India 102-3 after 14

Live on Sky Sports 2
 

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Indian Bee said:
didn't realise England are currently playing a warm up game against India right now.

India 102-3 after 14

Live on Sky Sports 2
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Yes they warmed the West Indies up yesterday with some insipid batting and gentle bowling. Looks like they may be doing the same for the Indians today

Giles has attempted to justify our rubbish from recently by saying that although we have only lost something like five out of seven they were against the World Cup holders and the second favourites.

No mention of the complete inability of the top order to give the "finishers" a decent platform and the continued selection of people like Dernbach
 

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kevalutonbee said:
Yes they warmed the West Indies up yesterday with some insipid batting and gentle bowling. Looks like they may be doing the same for the Indians today

Giles has attempted to justify our rubbish from recently by saying that although we have only lost something like five out of seven they were against the World Cup holders and the second favourites.

No mention of the complete inability of the top order to give the "finishers" a decent platform and the continued selection of people like Dernbach
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India over the last 6 months have played awful ODI and 20/20 cricket - so I'm thankful for Giles and England in playing some of our players into form :-)

On a serious note - what i've noticed is that win toss bat first. Chasing on Bangladesh's wickets will be difficult.
 

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Indian Bee said:
India over the last 6 months have played awful ODI and 20/20 cricket - so I'm thankful for Giles and England in playing some of our players into form .
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If you are out of form, arrange a game against England and you'll soon be back in form.
 

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Yet again choked by spin, the tournament hasn't even begun and everyone already knows how to beat England.

At least a poor tournament will mean the ECB get rid of Giles before the summer tests begin.
 

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I personally don't think England are that bad a 20/20 side. Butler impresses me and if the openers can get England off to a start then anything is possible. Think Treadwell will do well in the tournament and on those wickets.

Where England needs to improve is being consistent with their selection and I don't see that happening. Giles sorry is not clued up but at least Collingwood is part of the set up now. Let's see.

Oh yeah - Morgan isn't actually that great. Has far many failures than match winning performances. Don't buy this he wants to focus on England rather than the IPL - no IPL team would have taken him on.
 

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brilliant scenes today as Nepal beat Afghanistan and Hong Kong beat Bangladesh. Bangladesh still make it through to the next round, but Nepal and Hong Kong can hold their heads high. Afghanistan have been missing their main bowling star, but they'll definitely be disappointed by a bit of a poor showing in this tournament. still, only three games, and T20 too (always a bit of a lottery) - they are still progressing overall

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Missed the games today but great for HK beating Bangladesh on their own turf. I think the tournament really starts tomorrow with India v Pakistan.
 

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A few players with Sunbury CC connections in this tournament.
Chris Jordan played briefly for the club a few seasons ago, and Ireland's Paul Stirling has turned out for them a number of times. I think Ireland's Andrew Pointer has also appeared for them.
 

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The Ireland v Netherlands game looks quite lively. Ireland set a decent total of 189/4 but the Dutch have gone a bit crazy with the bat and are 72/0 after 4.1 overs :eek:
 

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Simon T said:
The Ireland v Netherlands game looks quite lively. Ireland set a decent total of 189/4 but the Dutch have gone a bit crazy with the bat and are 72/0 after 4.1 overs :eek:
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blimey !
 

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91/1 at the end of the powerplay overs, a new T20 record.
 

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ireland out, only question now is if the Dutch can do this in time, otherwise Zimbabwe will go through...
 

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Think I might have to watch the highlights of this later, Dutch get through with 3 balls to spare, a ridiculous 30 sixes in the match (another T20 record) from just 33.5 overs total. Love this quote from Cricinfo:

"Madness. Exhilarating. Magical. What can I say.. This has been a wonderful wonderful game! Netherlands have crossed the line in an unbelievable 13.5 overs. Yes. 13.5 overs.. That's 193 runs at 15.40! Myburgh. Tom Cooper.. What where these guys on is beyond me! I haven't seen hitting like this ever.. It's like watching a Gayle from each end. And when one Gayle gets out.. Another Gayle comes in.."
 

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incredible. respect to the Dutch for that, that was insane.
 

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:yawn:
 

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India v Pakistan coming up.

:box:

Come on India
 

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Why is it that they manage to Have the WorldT20 done in around 2 weeks and the 50 over World Cup seems to take an eternity and bores people to tears as a result
 

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Wow - watched that game with the sound off - I'd be very surprised if there's many better games at this tournament.
 

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That run rate is stick cricket stuff. Well in the Dutch lads
 

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Kamran Akmal run out. lol

Pak 9-1
 

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So Netherlands go into England's group, who will be favourites....:)
 

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Boscombe Bee said:
Why is it that they manage to Have the WorldT20 done in around 2 weeks and the 50 over World Cup seems to take an eternity and bores people to tears as a result
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they can fit in more games in a day, is an obvious answer ;)

but the format of the 50-over world cup is horrendous. saw a nice suggestion the other day - 15-team tournament, three groups of five, top two each into the "Super Six", then semi-finals and final. would work quite well and give some small teams a chance to compete.
 

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very comfortable win for India. Run chased never in doubt. Kohli showed his class. Only AVD is in his class in all formats of the game.
 

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South Africa haven't been mentioned as possible winners but they have a very dangerous side, particularly in the bowling attack. Even Imran Tahir looks a threat!

Sri Lanka should get around 160 here.
 

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Sri Lanka make 165. Apparently Sri Lanka have never lost a t20 when they have scored over 160 batting first.
 

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Come on England
 

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Got to feel for England - posted a very good competitive score and lost on the D/L method after 5 overs. Luck doesn't seem to be on their side at the moment. It will be difficult for them now to qualify with game against SL and SA to come.

Butler looks like a great player and Ali from what i have read batted well. Morgan failed again I see.
 

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Indian Bee said:
Got to feel for England - posted a very good competitive score and lost on the D/L method after 5 overs. Luck doesn't seem to be on their side at the moment. It will be difficult for them now to qualify with game against SL and SA to come.

Butler looks like a great player and Ali from what i have read batted well. Morgan failed again I see.
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This Duckworth Lewis thing is crap. How can NZ win the game after only batting for 32 balls? Surely it should be called off as a draw when one innings is cut so short.
 

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Buzzettesfriend said:
This Duckworth Lewis thing is crap. How can NZ win the game after only batting for 32 balls? Surely it should be called off as a draw when one innings is cut so short.
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Completely agree. A couple of overs could have easily swung it England's way. Think a draw would still have been harsh on England but to lose it is a kick in the teeth.
 

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especially when they stayed out during lightning strikes in order to pass the threshold...
 

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Good 20/20 game going on between Pakistan/ Aus.

Warner gone second ball chasing 192.

Think Pakistan will win with their spinners.
 

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Maxwell is a serious talent.

Aussies cruising this at the moment.
 

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Pakistan win after Australia were cruising it. Great 20/20 game I thought.
 

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Good game - thought it was destined to be closer than it was! West Indies not up to much at the moment... doesn't bode well for when England start playing the big boys considering our performances against WI :sneakoff:
 
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