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Holysmit
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Sorry I meant, England fans and whether they would pick him in the team
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Dernbach is without a doubt now an easy target but he doesn't pick the side and he doesn't really have a say if he is going to be bowling at the death. Broad should man up and take some responsibility as captain: be flexible and bowl at the death. To me he seems gutless - I have said this before but he seems to want to protect his figures always.
England are not a poor side IMO, just a poor bowling side. The batting has been reasonable in this tournament. There is definitely something to work on here, with the likes of Ali and Hales but not sure Broad and Giles are the right people to take England forward.
England are not a poor side IMO, just a poor bowling side. The batting has been reasonable in this tournament. There is definitely something to work on here, with the likes of Ali and Hales but not sure Broad and Giles are the right people to take England forward.
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Variant effort from the batsmen today. But 55 off the last 3 overs and 26 off a single Dernbach lost us the game. When we see the back of him. The worst thing is he is such a gobby git on the pitch.
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I'd suggest Buttler missing a simple stumping chance to get rid of Amla was more critical today. Our fielding has been sub-standard all tournament and today, despite the batsmen's best efforts, we didn't get away with it. Until we start taking nearly all of these easy catches / stumpings / run outs, the bowlers are going to be under immense pressure which doesn't help what is an average bowling attack. As for Dernbach, no, don't want him anywhere near the team. One good over every now and again doesn't warrant a starting place.
We're going home but out of curiousity, are we the highest run scorers in the tournament ?
We're going home but out of curiousity, are we the highest run scorers in the tournament ?
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As a T20 side we've gone backwards under Broad. The ECB sacked Collingwood after Australia ended our world record run of wins to appoint him.
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Sadly I think he will. If they can persist with Dernbach for this long, they can persist with Gilo.
No one wants either of them.
As for Cook, well he's made his position untenable for me, making Pietersen the scapegoat will back fire massively, as any poor result (and with the players we have available to us there will be a few) will be met with massive disapproval.
I'm not a massive fan of Pietersen as a person, but it's clear he's been hung out to dry. All the players who were there who have spoken on the matter said he did no wrong.
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The win over Sri Lanka was a prime example of one player, primarily, producing a truly stunning innings and papering over the deficiencies elsewhere in the side. That can happen in T20, occasionally in the 50-over format (Kevin O'Brien's innings for Ireland against England a casing point) but will seldom happen in Test cricket.
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I agree with all of this. Sadly, in the eyes of the ECB, we (the fans) are 'outside cricket' as per their ludicrous statement in the wake of the Kevin Pietersen sacking.
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If they appoint Giles I think the interest in England cricket which has been at an all time high since 2005 will very quickly dwindle. I don't think SKY would want that when you consider how much money has gone into the game from them. No to Giles!!
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Didn't see any of the game yesterday being in Oldham but interesting that Broad has admitted he may not continue as Captain. Personally I'd make Morgan t20 and ODI captain, I know he's out of form but I think he's still our best player in those formats and strikes me as an aggressive captain.
I do actually think we have a good t20 side in the making but we need to find some new bowlers. We don't have any specialist death bowlers and Dernbach clearly isn't the answer. We need more pace at the top of the innings and also a reliable spinner.
The batting actually looks pretty good, Hales looks the real deal and I like the look of Moeen Ali even though he hasn't gone on to make a big score.
I do actually think we have a good t20 side in the making but we need to find some new bowlers. We don't have any specialist death bowlers and Dernbach clearly isn't the answer. We need more pace at the top of the innings and also a reliable spinner.
The batting actually looks pretty good, Hales looks the real deal and I like the look of Moeen Ali even though he hasn't gone on to make a big score.
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Anyone but Morgan. Aggressive? where has this evidence come from? He would come nowhere near a world 11.
I actually feel sorry for Dernbach - he clearly is not an International player and showed zero form in Australia and WI but still got picked. Everyone could see it except the England management team.
As for Broad - interesting to see that Graeme Smith tweeted exactly what I said last night - he protects himself.
Giles being the test coach - I think it's more or less a done deal. Flower's recommendation I believe is that there should be one coach for all formats. So I guess Giles it is.
Positives: Hales, Ali, Jordan.
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He captained in the ODI's against Australia last summer, not much to go on but I felt his field placings were attacking and his style of batting can be a positive influence. I feel we need the same captain in both ODI and t20 cricket so if not Morgan captain then who? Unless they went for a totally fresh start and give the job to someone young like Root or Buttler.
If the last three months have been Giles' audition for the job then I don't see how he can be given the job but then I agree it does seem like he is going to get it. If the ecb genuinely had other candidates they were looking at then I'm sure we would have heard some names by now but it's all gone quiet.
Enjoying the tournament so far, fancy maybe an India vs South Africa final.
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That's the trouble there is no other candidate to pick from. Cook is the test Captain because of a lack of alternatives.
As for India v SA final - let's see, I want Dhoni to win the toss today and bat first. Let's see how we are batting first.
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Although didn't see the game but great win by India against the Aussies. Without Johnson it appears their bowling attack is really weak. Good to see India winning when batting first.
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Wow we really are hitting a new low here! This will take something special to win from here......against the mighty Holland.
Indian Bee
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Just seen the score - wow just wow ! The fall out of a potential defeat will be immense.
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The one time the bowlers get it right the batsman do not. This team can't seem to do anything right at the same time anymore.
If we lose this and still appoint Giles then look forward to some awful cricket to come.
If we lose this and still appoint Giles then look forward to some awful cricket to come.
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Simply lost for words. In 20/20 terms losing by 45 runs is a thrashing.
88 all out - wow, just unbelievable.
88 all out - wow, just unbelievable.
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This is unacceptable. How did we beat Sri Lanka? To score over 190 two matches running then 88 vs The Netherlands is abismal.