Would YOU Go??

[Nick Hester]

If the unthinkable happens and Griffin Park is no-more at the end of the season, who would go to Kingstonians everyother week?

Would fans simply not turn up?

I really don't think I would attend, through principle and also don't think I could handle it...would rather make the effort to go to ALL the aways..

What is the honest opinion of others??

 

[readingbee]

I go after my early shifts at Heathrow it only takes 15 mins to get to Griffin Park. But Kingstonians ground would make it impossible so my answer would be Yes but not as often as I do. Unless anyone knows of a quick route from Heathrow ???

 

[West Wilts Bee]

WOULD YOU GO.

No that would be the end for me. I travel far enough to watch the bees play at home. IF we go to that sh*thole we will die there its as simple as that. Noades only wants us there so he can take his money and then **** off. Anyone who thinks otherwise is seriously mistaken, that is his cop out.
As for us we will end up as a non league club, with no way back.

 

[Jezybee]

Can't see that many going to Kingstonians.

 

[Nick Hester]

I would never like to see the death of my club but I am encouraged by the replies so far...I am one of those who would rather see Brentford die with dignity at Griffin Park.

There may not be too long to go, I really think things may start getting difficult for Noades and Co as soon as the FA Cup match is out the way..

 

[Sweepy]

I will probably go once or twice, and be upset by what I see.

 

[Edmundo]

I really, honestly don't know.

 

[timmy_boy5]

as unfortunate as it is, iand as much as i would be sad to see the death of griffin park i f anything i would be more likely to go as i it is a lot closer to me

 

[B2B]

the answer is simple. NO.

 

[Nick Hester]

Not that it would do any good but I'm writing to the league to ask them how they allow their member clubs to find themselves in this mess?

Why do they allow single people to rape clubs and turf them out of their spiritual homes for the benefit of themselves?

Why do they not step in and look deeper into the mismanagment, and be accountable themselves??..

Its happening to Fulham, Brentford and dozens of other Clubs..

Are the league aware of the 'Blackmail' clause that Noades are putting to us (removing the Council section)? or put us into Administration..??

The League are as responsible for this as anyone IMHO.

 

[Nigel Brooks]

Sadly an enforced move to Kingstonian would signal the end of my support.

I don't think it's just the location but more to do with HOW we ended up there. To be playing at Kingsmeadow means that the club I love, sorry the club we love, would have been raped and pillaged.

We must not let this happen, if not for supporters who, like me have been following Brentford for 41 (of my 47) years, but for the kids, the senior supporters and for everyone who thinks the madness of ripping part of the heart out of a community must stop.

 

[wanderingbee]

Not that it would do any good but I'm writing to the league to ask them how they allow their member clubs to find themselves in this mess?

Why do they allow single people to rape clubs and turf them out of their spiritual homes for the benefit of themselves?

Why do they not step in and look deeper into the mismanagment, and be accountable themselves??..

Its happening to Fulham, Brentford and dozens of other Clubs..

Are the league aware of the 'Blackmail' clause that Noades are putting to us (removing the Council section)? or put us into Administration..??

The League are as responsible for this as anyone IMHO.

Let us know if they are arsed to reply it would be interesting to see what they say considering the clubs it is happening to.

As for going to kingston I just dont know the pure point of watching the bees is there and after all its the club I have grown up with and cried over I am not sure but it would not be Brentford would it.... Dont know and hope I never have to choose

 

[Downbeat Bee]

It would not be Brentford. I'd probably go a few times in the first season.

 

[WarrenBee]

Two hopes of me going to Kingston,no hope and Bob Hope.I would make an effot to attend as many away games as possible though.

 

[Leicester Bee]

I highly doubt that I would go to Kingstonian. If the circumstances dictated that we definitely had a nwe home to go to, and that this wasn't going to be a tragic death, then I would probably still go.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Never

 

[hants in my pants]

"done" Kingston in the the pre-season friendly. can`t see me going there again.

even if i were to go, the sir bobby would prevent me going in.

 

[Griffingreen]

Can't imagine not going, if we travel to other sh!tholes to watch our team then why not our own. Maybe after being there a new site comes up and we end up in some state of the art stadium, would you all trickle back. Only if it was 100% certain we were going to die would I give up.

"BRENTFORD TILL I DIE"

"LOYAL SUPPORTERS"

"BEES UNITED"

 

[-superbees2k3-]

I hate the thought of boycotting my beloved Brentfordfc, but moving to kingstonian is a definite no-no

 

[Debbee]

'Brentford Til I Die..' as the song goes but.....

I'd never go to that ground if it became the so called'home' of The Bees. I don't think I could stand not going to any away games though........

it's like an addiction, I'd have withdrawal symptons!

 

[JTofBFC]

Sadly an enforced move to Kingstonian would signal the end of my support.

I don't think it's just the location but more to do with HOW we ended up there. To be playing at Kingsmeadow means that the club I love, sorry the club we love, would have been raped and pillaged.

We must not let this happen, if not for supporters who, like me have been following Brentford for 41 (of my 47) years, but for the kids, the senior supporters and for everyone who thinks the madness of ripping part of the heart out of a community must stop.

100% agree with that.

There has to be a degree of enjoyment in going to a game, some sort of expectation and anticipation. It has to be more than doing your duty. Every time I went to Kingston, I would just find myself looking around at the empty terrace and run down tinpot stands and think "how the bloody hell did we get into this mess". Too depressing to endure really.

Like Warrenbee said, I would always be a Bee but it would be from afar and occasional away games.

Anyway, a fantastic victory today and a nice draw for the 5th round and we can start putting these worries behind us for the immediate future.

Sing up, YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU REDSSSSSSSS

 

[Nick Hester]

So I take it this sounds like a good idea moving to Kingstonians then???!!

Not that Noades gives a fu$k.

Just maybe we should 'up' the tempo after todays game? We've not long to go..

 

[Nick Hester]

Anyway, a fantastic victory today and a nice draw for the 5th round and we can start putting these worries behind us for the immediate future.

QUOTE]

Why??
Do you think any extra money from cup runs is going to be to the benefit of us, or further go to fur line Noades pockets even more?

The only time I will rejoice when we have money spinning games is when Bees United have control..

 

[JTofBFC]

True Greenholme. Just trying to keep a mildly positive slant on things for the day of the big game.

 

[Nick Hester]

True Greenholme. Just trying to keep a mildly positive slant on things for the day of the big game.

And so we should....lets 'up' the anti after today!!

Have a good afternoon!!

 

[Speedo]

No I wouldn't go! Everybody, as much as their personal circumstances allow should go to as many away games as possible. Brighton's away support was superb when they were forced to play at Gillingham. That's what kept the spirit of the club alive imho.

 

[Bee H]

No, I wouldn't go to Kingsmeadow

perhaps Bees Utd would care to print this off so John Mac can hand it to Noad£s at the next Board Meeting (Ed ?)

It's all well and good Noad£s 'saying' things in his proggy notes but I don't trust him (to say the very least !)

Noad£s - more spin than a washing machine !

 

[AB]

Re: No, I wouldn't go to Kingsmeadow

perhaps Bees Utd would care to print this off so John Mac can hand it to Noad£s at the next Board Meeting (Ed ?)

It's all well and good Noad£s 'saying' things in his proggy notes but I don't trust him (to say the very least !)

Noad£s - more spin than a washing machine !

You don't think that this thread could be interpreted by RN as "I thought as much, apathetic lot, wouldn't even travel 5 miles down the road to follow the club they keep bleating about" and then used to justify just putting us straight into administration. I'm not quite sure why people seem to think that the club dying completely at the end of the season (ie admin followed by winding up and sale of the ground) is better than moving to Kingstonian.

Personally I agree that moving to Kingstonian would be utterly terrible and that it would be particuarly sad because of the means by which it all were to happen. But while there was still a club to support I couldn't at this stage say I'd wash my hands of it. Saying you'd just go to away games is pretty complacent and classic fence sitting. Either boycott the club completely, move on and out, OR follow the club properly. Just going away will mean that the club will be hastened even more to its death. There's always hope. If there wasn't you wouldn't bother with the Bees in the first place!

 

[love and mercy]

I would not go .
I would rather see us die gracefully at our beloved Griffin Park than watch us slowly die somewhere else .We would be waiting for someone to come in and save us , it would be torture for us .

 

[West Wilts Bee]

Re: Re: No, I wouldn't go to Kingsmeadow

You don't think that this thread could be interpreted by RN as "I thought as much, apathetic lot, wouldn't even travel 5 miles down the road to follow the club they keep bleating about" and then used to justify just putting us straight into administration. I'm not quite sure why people seem to think that the club dying completely at the end of the season (ie admin followed by winding up and sale of the ground) is better than moving to Kingstonian.

Personally I agree that moving to Kingstonian would be utterly terrible and that it would be particuarly sad because of the means by which it all were to happen. But while there was still a club to support I couldn't at this stage say I'd wash my hands of it. Saying you'd just go to away games is pretty complacent and classic fence sitting. Either boycott the club completely, move on and out, OR follow the club properly. Just going away will mean that the club will be hastened even more to its death. There's always hope. If there wasn't you wouldn't bother with the Bees in the first place!

If we are losing all this money by Playing at Griffin park. How will we stay solvent playing at Kingston. Bloody impossible.

 

[CJC]

Good point

If the circumstances we left GP in were dubious ie we hadn't
bought any land for a stadium I would not go out of protest. I don't mind moving as long as we have a stadium site that we own, otherwise NO. I would still buy a season ticket because mine is only £90 if I wasn't boycotting.

Anyway we are going to Selhurst

"If we are losing all this money by Playing at Griffin park. How will we stay solvent playing at Kingston. Bloody impossible."

The costs of staging a game at Kingston are lower, we would have massive interest payments from whatever money left over and we would probably not lose too much money. Might even get new fans from floating support for former Wimbledon FC if we did well. Same applys for Selhurst except more corporate opportunitys there, maybe even no rent. This is Noades' idea. In reality no-one would turn up and we would get relegated furthermore less crowds and end up folding.

 

[nocoat]

id go, but i would be right pissed off about it
even the pretty ladies wouldnt cheer me up

 

[Jay Bee]

Wouldn't it depends on the exact circumstances surrounding us playing there, in terms of whether we have a new stadium site secured? Brighton, for example, didn't "die" when they shared with Gillingham and, as far as I know, most of their fans stood by them when they had no home on the immediate horizon, aren't we talking about a similar position? It's certainly a better position than the one Wimbledon fans face, where I agree with their boycott.

In answer to the question, I'd probably still go.

 

[Streetboy]

No I wouldn't go! Everybody, as much as their personal circumstances allow should go to as many away games as possible. Brighton's away support was superb when they were forced to play at Gillingham. That's what kept the spirit of the club alive imho.

Good call. Do you think the message would get across if no bugger turns up for home games but 5,000 travel to every away game?

To not go would take a lot of soul searching. I imagine a lot of Wimbledon fans have been feeling right gutted this season about the team they once loved still playing yet making a conscious decision to not watch them.

 

[Edmundo]

The costs of staging a game at Kingston are lower

Who says so? Why?

 

[Sweepy]

Good point

If the circumstances we left GP in were dubious ie we hadn't
bought any land for a stadium I would not go out of protest. I don't mind moving as long as we have a stadium site that we own, otherwise NO. I would still buy a season ticket because mine is only £90 if I wasn't boycotting.

Anyway we are going to Selhurst

"If we are losing all this money by Playing at Griffin park. How will we stay solvent playing at Kingston. Bloody impossible."

The costs of staging a game at Kingston are lower, we would have massive interest payments from whatever money left over and we would probably not lose too much money. Might even get new fans from floating support for former Wimbledon FC if we did well. Same applys for Selhurst except more corporate opportunitys there, maybe even no rent. This is Noades' idea. In reality no-one would turn up and we would get relegated furthermore less crowds and end up folding.

To be fair, you have stated a lot of things as fact when quite simply they aren't.

You say "we are going to Selhurst". The last time I looked, there were no plans in place for us to go there. If that is the way things turn out, then our club will die quicker still. Have you ever tried getting there on the train?

"The costs of staging a game at Kingston are lower" you add. I agree. How many stewards will they need for the 2,000 who actually show up? The costs may turn out to be lower, but so will the turnover. Brentford will die at Kingstonian, simple as that. I am hoping that maybe Ron has started to see this (we can only hope).

 

[Stanley]

Would YOU Go.......

Don't know if I was honest. Its too emotive an issue to consider rationaly unless it actually happened. It's not as if I'm going to support another club so what else do you do.

Having said that, to me Griffin Park is BFC in mind and soul, separating the two is not that straightforward.

I totally agree with those that say going to Kingsmeadow will lead to the end of the club as we know it, so the question is would I go and see the club in its struggle with death/ liquidation/ non league status or just call it day and leave with those many memories of life as a league club at GP.

 

[PAZ]

Re: Would YOU Go.......

Don't know if I was honest. Its too emotive an issue to consider rationaly unless it actually happened. It's not as if I'm going to support another club so what else do you do.

Having said that, to me Griffin Park is BFC in mind and soul, separating the two is not that straightforward.

I totally agree with those that say going to Kingsmeadow will lead to the end of the club as we know it, so the question is would I go and see the club in its struggle with death/ liquidation/ non league status or just call it day and leave with those many memories of life as a league club at GP.

I agree with your sentiments, Stanley.

I don't really know the answer to the question until I actually HAVE to answer it. Head says "no", heart says "probably".

 

[Burno]

Of course I'd go! I wouldn't be appy but I'd go to Kingston, Selhurst, wherever. What else is there to do on matchdays?

 

[Ace Face]

Would not go, ever.

It wouldnt be the BEES it would be a franchise club with no soul.

I do worry that some fans still believe that it is possible that we would go to Kingstonian and miraculously come back to our home town and built a progressive stadfium.

If we leave LBH, the council will jump for joy as the pressure will be off them and the club will die in exile.

Please don`t forget the BIAS Red Card Protest this saturday.

 

[richy]

I would absolutely definitely 100% go to every at Kingstonian.

I will not stop going to watch the Bees unless the club actually folds. I fail to see how my not going to Kinstonian would benefit the club. Staying away would only harm the club further and there is no way that I will ever play any part in letting Brentford die.

In the mean time I am a member of BIAS, have a standing order with BU and will protest against Kingstonian in any way possible. BUT, if we go there, then so do I and I will continue to help fight the cause from there.

 

[West Wilts Bee]

Woul d you go

The simple solution lies in our hands there's less than 500 people doing standing orders. If we all want to stay at gp we should have at least 2,500 . We should not even be talking about going there, join bu, and make a small monthly payment
problem solved.

 

[nick logan]

seeing the replies on here sadden me.so we just give up and die do we?good job the supporters of charlton and brighton didn't think like us isn't it?they watched their clubs screwed yet kept going and returned stronger than ever.you cannot let the fact that your club has moved destroy 100 years of history.it would be awful if we moved but we must help the club get back on its feet not hasten its death by not turning up.i realise i am in the minority and i don't want to upset anyone but i would want to keep going until we have no club to support and even then i'd want afc brentford formed asap.we should prove to whoever moves us away that we will not just fade away and die but will help the club move on and hopefully turn up in numbers to keep the fine tradition of the great brentford football club for our children and our grandchildren.

always brentford

 

[Whitton Borders Bee]

I was beginning to think I was in the minority then, but that response is what I would have expected from Nick. Entirely agree, and surely its better to rebuild with a Football league position than down the non - league pyramid system? I have total respect and admiration for the AFC Wimbledon fella's, but whilst we still have a shout at League football, lets hang on to that and build from there.

Do not give the people who put us in to this situation the pleasure of watching us start afresh.

 

[Mikey Bee]

Wise words, Nick.

I don't get to GP as often as I used to and would probably find Kingstonian equally as tough to get to regularly but I want to be watching BFC with my grandchildren in years to come and whether it's at Griffin Park, Lionel Road, Kingstonian or the local rec.

We cannot let Brentford die. As AB pointed out, Nodious would view most of the posts here as justification for the comments he has made about the supporters. We need to have a united front on this one, guys.

 

[Speedo]

seeing the replies on here sadden me.so we just give up and die do we?good job the supporters of charlton and brighton didn't think like us isn't it?they watched their clubs screwed yet kept going and returned stronger than ever.


Brighton & Charlton activley boycotted their 'home' games at Gillingham & Selhurst/Upton Park respectivley. They continued to support their clubs away, and in Brighton's case in large numbers. Both set fans were still involved in politics of securing the return to their respective spritual homes. How many Charlton fans returned to Valley in 1992 that hadn't been to a 'Home' game since 1985 when they left?? Quite a few I recall. They kept the passion and traditional of the team alive but they didn't just blindly go along with moving just becasue they couldn't miss a game.

In Italy, Fiorentina fans boycotted most of last seasons home games but took a staggering amount of fans on their travels. Ultimatley Fiorentina folded, but that was on the cards long before the boycotts. The fans then started Florentia Viola and had 25,000 at their first home game in serie C2 and contiune to take a minimum of 2,000 away for most games. Which is usually more than the ground they are going to holds.

You have to stand up to Noades and his ilk. By just accepting that he will move us to Kingstonian and we will follow like sheep is not on. Far better to die with pride, dignity and our history intack at GP, than to fade away to nothing at a non-league ground. In most circumsances in life dignity, pride and your history is all you've got to hang on too.

Maybe fans that boycott Kingstonian are 'cutting their nose off to spite their face'. Time will tell as always......................

 

[LIONHEART]

fkin ell speedo-didnt even realise that fiorentina had gone bust-and they were a massive club.

 

[Speedo]

fkin ell speedo-didnt even realise that fiorentina had gone bust-and they were a massive club.

If you're interested I'll give you the low down on whats been happening over in Tuscany since the formation of Fiorentia Viola last summer.

Obviously not on this post as this is not the place. And I can't be arsed at the moment, which is more to the point

 

[Nigel Brooks]

Far better to die with pride, dignity and our history intact at GP, than to fade away to nothing at a non-league ground. In most circumsances in life diginity, pride and your history is all you've got to hang on too.

[/B]

Top post Speedo.

 

[Bee Damned]

I won't step foot inside Kingsmeadow under rons plans. So let's get off our arses and fight it now before it's too ****ing late. Let's see everyone holding two red cards, not fingers , up at ron and his plans on saturday. I'd rather we go down fighting than go down like a sack of sh*t.

This club is worth fighting for so join BIAS/BU and get involved. you know you'll regret it if you don't.