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Straight into the Top 10 of most ridiculous things ever posted on the GPG.
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you might have a couple of decades of reading still to do . Shrug:
came here with high expectations and so far failed to deliver . There is a similarity. Biggershrug:
readingbee
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I think you just summed him up as to his true potential for us ‘ excellent off the bench ‘ TBH if that’s what he can bring us, I’m. Happy with that.
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He definitely makes things happens. He is very good coming on in circumstances like last night when we are chasing the game because he brings a real tempo to our passing and we play best when we shift the ball quickly.
He has had impact in enough games this season to justify a place on the bench with the occasional start when required.
He has had impact in enough games this season to justify a place on the bench with the occasional start when required.
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Yes, the circumstances last night were that he moved the ball quickly but I would also add the Watford’s midfield had been overrun and he continued it when he came on. Our effort last night was massive, him included, and that’s what swung the game. He’s not great in every game, but last night he did well, so fair do’s, a useful player for us.
Saman Ghoddos
Key in both goals last night. So frustrating because for me our best attacking midfielder until Josh comes back. Without anyone who can open things up with a dribble we have to rely on intricate one touch passing and set pieces to create chances. All our other midfielders can do this brilliantly but Saman does it in the final third. Would think he's been involved in a very high percentage of goals created while he's on the pitch. I get that it's been get the defence right through necessity this season so it's hard to fit him in but he's definitely a player.
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Saman, was pivotal in both goals.
Intelligent pass to Janelt for our first goal.
Great feint after the superb pass from Norgaard, leading to the stone cold penalty being awarded.
Well done Saman!
Intelligent pass to Janelt for our first goal.
Great feint after the superb pass from Norgaard, leading to the stone cold penalty being awarded.
Well done Saman!
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Bought the penalty beautifully. Knew it was coming, waited for the contact, thank you very much. Even Oliver looked at the defender like "how can I not give that".
Moving him to the left was a very clever move.
Moving him to the left was a very clever move.
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Fully agree, he has great technique and off the bench he has shown he can do it. Not a starter for me but it's about the 18 players chosen in the match squad on the day.
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I totally agree but do you know what? Listening to TalkShite on the way home they thought he dived and was hence a cheat!
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Once the defender took off to block the cross he was like a car with no brakes. It was very nicely done by Saman.
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Les Beeavinu
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One of the most frustrating players ever to play for us. Everyone can see there's a player in him but we only see it in flashes. Very irritating.
PersianTactician
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I agree with you. I just think it has to do with playing time and of course it will be hard, as long as we are setting up a defensive formation, looking to have players that run more, etc, just what TF said.. (rightfully so) we will not get to see the best of him. He has it in him to be a starter. Some say I'm crazy but many people are praising Goode for his performances after a couple of starts while they were flaming him in the past. Hopefully, with JDS back we can have a more attack-minded formation where we can utilize Saman more effectively. Either way, super glad we got the 3 points which were really necessary, with some games today going to our favor we will be in a great place heading into the last part of December.
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Yeh, and we saw that all in his cameo last night, couple of really good clever passes, and a great run for the pen but then the free kick in the last minute he wellied well past the far post and an easy ball into space for Roerslev sent him wide and a good counter was gone.. Is it just concentration? He seems to often slightly underhit passes which look like they're going to be v good balls but aren't quite....
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You know, having watched it for about the 20th time, if that pen was given against us I’d be furious but Saman was clever and did what so many others would have done in that situation.
He had a top impact on the game as a sub - again - just wish it could happen for 90+ minutes.
He had a top impact on the game as a sub - again - just wish it could happen for 90+ minutes.
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Guys Saman is a great player and we all know that! He is creative, smart and technical. But he simply is not a defensive MD and that is why he doesn't start! I don't think anyone here gonna argue with this. However the problem is the current system that is being used by Frank.
If brentford wants to start with 3-5-2 defensive line up then I would not even dare to put him in there. He won't perform in that kind of system. I don‘t know how to put it down but Saman does not fit this nasty defensive style of game plan! So in order to see him in the line up Frank needs to change this stupid defensive 3-5-2 that does not WORK! Conceding 21 goals in 11 matches is just shocking!
If Frank moves back to 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 with some attacking power upfront then I guarantee you Saman will be within the Top 10's of PL in his position (behind strikers).
Saman was Saman of old days yesterday.
So crisp and confident on the ball, intelligent movement, created a lot of danger and did everything he could and he really brought the game back for us.
Saman can’t be chasing the ball, he needs to be fed and then he can show his brilliance.
If brentford wants to start with 3-5-2 defensive line up then I would not even dare to put him in there. He won't perform in that kind of system. I don‘t know how to put it down but Saman does not fit this nasty defensive style of game plan! So in order to see him in the line up Frank needs to change this stupid defensive 3-5-2 that does not WORK! Conceding 21 goals in 11 matches is just shocking!
If Frank moves back to 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 with some attacking power upfront then I guarantee you Saman will be within the Top 10's of PL in his position (behind strikers).
Saman was Saman of old days yesterday.
So crisp and confident on the ball, intelligent movement, created a lot of danger and did everything he could and he really brought the game back for us.
Saman can’t be chasing the ball, he needs to be fed and then he can show his brilliance.
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Welcome to the GPG
In case you missed it, we’re 9th in the PL with half of our first choice first team missing.
I stopped reading after the b***ocks above.
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Saman, thanks for joining the board.
All I can say is that as a club, l believe we want to play football and will do so more once safe from relegation, all in readiness for next season, you will get more game time then.
stay safe, stay fit.
PrinceOfPersia
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Thank you ?? Well, we can enjoy that right now but if Frank keeps going with his coward tactics we could be in relegation spot by next year. I’ve watched most of the games when Brentford was in Championship and we can play some beautiful attacking football, just frustrating to see how defensive we are atm that’s all.
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These “cowardly tactics” have us 9th in the hardest league in the world, despite having a ridiculous amount of injuries. We can’t play the same way we did in the championship, we simply don’t have the depth and quality do that and get results every week.
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With so many games coming up, Thomas will need to rotate Baptiste with Samman in that position. We have played enough games now to see that one of the three midfield players needs to have a more offensive mindset so we keep the opposition honest and don’t allow our forwards to get isolated.
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We really can with weaker opponents like Watford yesterday. I am not saying that Frank shouldn’t play defensive against the stronger teams.
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Whilst I agree with the comments about attacking football I find the word “coward” in relation to Thomas Frank or any member of the current squad deeply offensive.
To survive in this company there will be occasions when we have to resort to unattractive tactics against far better teams to try to grind out a point or to avoid shipping a hatful of goals. This could end up being vital.
Against the likes of Watford and other weaker teams I believe we should play an expansive game. Our ability to do so however has been significantly reduced by factors beyond our control specifically injuries to key players.
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Sorry, I really didn’t want to offend anyone. Just as I said before, against weaker teams we should play our beautiful offensive football. I know we have injuries to key players right now but Frank has played exactly the same tactics last 11 games. We met far weaker teams in the past and we should take the opportunity in the future to showcase our brilliance in attack.
HaylingBee74
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I don’t think we have played the same tactics for 90 minutes of any one of the last 11 games. So you cant possibly believe that our tactics remain the same for all 11 games, can you?
PrinceOfPersia
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We started with the exact same tactics and when we were behind we changed it to a more offensive tactic.
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Saman Ghoddos
While I agree that Saman is one of our most intelligent players if used correctly but these "cowardly tactics" have been a revelation, it may be boring at times, but if we played a 4 3 3 we would not be 9th in the hardest league in the world. Maybe next season, when we have more money to spend and better quality of players to do so, then we may play some more attacking formation. But for right now, it's working incredibly for us.
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You make tactics sound as though there is only a choice of A, B or C. Decisions are made to release one of the wingbacks to concentrate more on attack, or defence depending on opponents formation. There are many tweaks made to how we are trying to play during games, every game. Which weakness we think there is in the opposition.
Norwich succeeded by pressing against us before we received the ball, while Brighton pressed but in a different way, they appeared to let us get the ball and then give us zero thinking time.
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I really hope we can stay in PL next year and that we can improve and make the squad stronger so we can showcase our beautiful football. I really love Brentford, we play with so much heart and soul
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He saw what was coming and reacted brilliantly. Worth the transfer fee alone. Drawing the foul is no crime in my book.
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If you have to wait until you are crunched by the tackle there will be few fit players on any team
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Yes let’s play open attacking football every game like Norwich and get massacred every time!!
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Yeah and that’s why he came on and turned the game to our favor in 20min time.
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He doesn’t do that when he starts, that’s the issue and why he is a good sub but not a starter at present. If he takes one of the chances he gets when he starts then its likely he’ll continue to do so… its in his hands!
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Saman’s problem is consistency. He’s had some flashes of brilliance this season. Villa and Burnley away are good examples but he needs to be doing this every time and right now he isn’t. If he can get that consistency, he’ll be a solid PL player.
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I thought Ghoddos showed intelligent expansive use of the ball and brought us up a level.If it comes to a choice for a creative role then IMO he's a better option than Jensen because he is also a goal threat.
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I agree with your comment, but it is quite hard for a player to accept being benched after a good performance and being benched after a bad performance. It messes the players up mentally to a point that when your starting you want to do way too much and eventually instead of performing you underperform as we've seen in his last start.
I've seen plenty of times in this season and the previous season where players in the midfield play a horrible match and still get the nod over him. Not saying it's because there are racial things that cause this, no... it's mostly the formation we are playing, especially this season in the premier league, but then again he did show he can press, and hustle as much as Onyeka or Baptiste in his start against Burnley it was?.
In the end, constant game time relates directly to being able to output constant results unless there is fatigue due to too much game time which happens to a lot of players in every club in the world.
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Ghoddos is a squad player.
He comes off the bench and can contribute in moments because he is an intelligent footballer.
He can be relied upon to start matches too when others are not available because he can play a number of different positions and is willing to do the off-the-ball / defensive work that is required of a midfielder in our team.
There is value in all of that and I’m glad we have him, when you are building a squad with a relatively low budget and you can’t afford to have two top quality players for each position you need to have players like this.
But all this about we should change our system to “unlock Ghoddos” and build our team around him; not for me.
He comes off the bench and can contribute in moments because he is an intelligent footballer.
He can be relied upon to start matches too when others are not available because he can play a number of different positions and is willing to do the off-the-ball / defensive work that is required of a midfielder in our team.
There is value in all of that and I’m glad we have him, when you are building a squad with a relatively low budget and you can’t afford to have two top quality players for each position you need to have players like this.
But all this about we should change our system to “unlock Ghoddos” and build our team around him; not for me.
Saman Ghoddos
Well to be honest he has been performing better than most of our midfielders. Saman is a quality player but he is not a defensive player. Sadly frank is keen on playing defensive football (3-5-2) and thats why he doesn't start. I mean in his interview he clearly admited that too 
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Shall we look at some stats before judging?
Ghodos
In 274 minutes that he has played in Premier league:
1 Goal
1 Assist
1 Penalty
0.5 Key passes (avg per game)
Onyeka- 748 minutes
0 Goals
0 assist
0 penalty
0.2 Key passes (avg per game)
Baptiste - 405 minutes
1 Goal
0 Assist
0 Penalty
0.3 Key passes (avg per game)
Jensen - 520 minutes
0 Goals
1 Assist
0 Penalty
1.6 Key passes (avg per game)
Obviously this 3-5-3 is not working for us right now. Even in yesterday's game frank had to change formation to 3-4-3 and thats how we scored 2 goals. As the guy on top said we've conceded 21 goals in last 11 games using this formation (3-5-2) .
.Shall we look at some stats before judging?
Ghodos
In 274 minutes that he has played in Premier league:
1 Goal
1 Assist
1 Penalty
0.5 Key passes (avg per game)
Onyeka- 748 minutes
0 Goals
0 assist
0 penalty
0.2 Key passes (avg per game)
Baptiste - 405 minutes
1 Goal
0 Assist
0 Penalty
0.3 Key passes (avg per game)
Jensen - 520 minutes
0 Goals
1 Assist
0 Penalty
1.6 Key passes (avg per game)
Obviously this 3-5-3 is not working for us right now. Even in yesterday's game frank had to change formation to 3-4-3 and thats how we scored 2 goals. As the guy on top said we've conceded 21 goals in last 11 games using this formation (3-5-2) .
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