Aaron Hickey

[Mick.C]

He is an excellent two footed player, cuts inside or out, playing at cb he played a cool calm game.
As Andrews says he is an intelligent footballer, reading the game and danger so he’s a yard ahead of others.
That’s the fourth position he’s played for us, Cb, Rb, Lb and defensive midfielder and never looks out of place in any of them.

 

[jbee]

Worth a start in midfield next week?

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Worth a start in midfield next week?

If wasn’t against Hull would definitely be on cards but suspect Keith will go Sangare, Jensen and Damsgaard.

 

[jlove]

If wasn’t against Hull would definitely be on cards but suspect Keith will go Sangare, Jensen and Damsgaard.

I'm not sure Jensen and Damsgaard are a starting pairing; one starting and one as the substitute, maybe. In the absence of a second holding midfielder, it makes sense for a defender to start, or Lewis-Potter with Diouf at left back.

 

[damsgard.szn]

I think it’s time to start having conversations about him- looks like one of our best players every time he comes on, shame for him that our fullbacks are playing out their skins currently. Can see him playing in midfield soon.

 

[Wooburn Bee]

I think it’s time to start having conversations about him- looks like one of our best players every time he comes on, shame for him that our fullbacks are playing out their skins currently. Can see him playing in midfield soon.

He can be more influential playing centrally as so two footed and intelligent as a player and calm on ball. He is not the quickest although no slouch so probably in way Keith likes to attack games hickey is either better suited as playing central defender alongside a more physical centre half or defensive midfield .

 

[NickThe(Half)Greek]

Undoubtedly a very talented player. Plays with both feet, calm, aggressive when needed. But I don’t see him as a central midfielder in the top half of the Premier League. Just like I don’t see Ajer as a full back. I want to see Hickey competing for right back or left back. He’s not fast, creative, or dynamic enough to play centre midfield.

 

[Downbeat Bee]

Undoubtedly a very talented player. Plays with both feet, calm, aggressive when needed. But I don’t see him as a central midfielder in the top half of the Premier League. Just like I don’t see Ajer as a full back. I want to see Hickey competing for right back or left back. He’s not fast, creative, or dynamic enough to play centre midfield.

Half of our fanbase was clamouring for him there. It isn’t easy to play ‘out of position’ in the Premier League. Sounds like a cliche, but it is unforgiving.

 

[damsgard.szn]

Obviously had a tough game, but with Kelleher effectively getting him a yellow early on- his whole game was changed.

 

[NickThe(Half)Greek]

Half of our fanbase was clamouring for him there. It isn’t easy to play ‘out of position’ in the Premier League. Sounds like a cliche, but it is unforgiving.

Yes, obviously limited options today so forced hand. I just don’t think it worked. You need specialists and he looked like he was playing out of position, in my opinion.

 

[JosephBFC]

He is obviously nowhere near the finished article as a central midfielder, he’s only started 2 games there. But I think KA was right to start him there today and I reckon he has all the attributes to play there in the future. Must be more progressive at times, but I don’t think he would be getting so much criticism if it wasn’t for the penalty, which wasn’t his fault anyway and left him on a yellow. A 6/10 performance today

 

[cliffbee]

He is obviously nowhere near the finished article as a central midfielder, he’s only started 2 games there. But I think KA was right to start him there today and I reckon he has all the attributes to play there in the future. Must be more progressive at times, but I don’t think he would be getting so much criticism if it wasn’t for the penalty, which wasn’t his fault anyway and left him on a yellow. A 6/10 performance today

Five out of ten at best. He's not a central midfielder and never will be IMO. Due to lack of other options he was the right choice to start there today but I'd be surprised in the extreme if he started any more games in that position. Happy to have him as second choice RB and able to fill in on the left or even at CB in extremis.
I've watched the penalty incident multiple times and no one is going to convince me he didn't get the ball first. Contact with the leg and a slight tug of the shirt came afterwards.

 

[BFC1997]

Harsh comments, was given a suicide pass from Kelleher and tbh felt he got the ball and was slightly unlucky to get a pen against him.

Could have panicked and just pulled the man back and had a red card.

Did alright in midfield otherwise if unspectacular. Reminds me of KOC in his calmness and versatility, wouldn’t worry about him playing there again.

 

[Scratchy]

I'd be tempted to play him again in that CDM role against Sunderland if he's fit enough to do so. Felt for him a bit today as he was thrown into an unfamiliar role but he was at fault for the Hull goal, as was Kelleher.

He might still be a useful option in that role.

 

[Freebee]

Harsh comments, was given a suicide pass from Kelleher and tbh felt he got the ball and was slightly unlucky to get a pen against him.

Could have panicked and just pulled the man back and had a red card.

Did alright in midfield otherwise if unspectacular. Reminds me of KOC in his calmness and versatility, wouldn’t worry about him playing there again.

Um,he had a handful of shirt after the tackle helping him to go down.

 

[mundee4england]

I was hoping we’d go with the two Danes with Sangare and take the game to them, but given the conditions, the opposition and the lack of a proper six I totally understood why we went with Hickey, but don’t think it really worked. When Dams came on we looked a lot better but that may not have been the case from the start. A tough call given the absentees, but I’d say we shouldn’t try it again too soon.

The pen wasn’t Aaron’s fault though, it was a casual hospital pass from Kelleher albeit he is used to playing similar, not quite as short, balls into Vitaly who is very adept at dealing with them.

 

[BFC1997]

Um,he had a handful of shirt after the tackle helping him to go down.

Yeah but he also made a genuine (somewhat successful) attempt to play the ball.

Had he not done that and just pulled the guy back, it’s a red card.

 

[Untouchable]

I'd be tempted to play him again in that CDM role against Sunderland if he's fit enough to do so.

Near certain that Vitaly will come back in against Sunderland.

 

[Old B]

Just as one 10/10 performance doesn’t make a superstar, one slightly under par isn’t sufficient to write him off. Thrown under the bus by Kelleher, made a valiant attempt but through the back of the Hull player so penalty a fair decision IMHO.

 

[Scratchy]

Near certain that Vitaly will come back in against Sunderland.

Possibly but I think it would be better for Janelt to be an option off the bench and to give Hickey more reps in that position. Anyway we will see.

 

[fencer/bee]

Near certain that Vitaly will come back in against Sunderland.

I hope so

 

[badgerbee]

Near certain that Vitaly will come back in against Sunderland.

Possibly.
But doesn't that risk him getting another Yellow, and subsequent suspension for Forest?

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

Possibly.
But doesn't that risk him getting another Yellow, and subsequent suspension for Forest?

He wouldn't get another suspension until 10 yellows would he?

 

[brentford born & bred]

Possibly.
But doesn't that risk him getting another Yellow, and subsequent suspension for Forest?

Aren't yellow cards competition specific?

 

[A Real Mysteron]

I'd be tempted to play him again in that CDM role against Sunderland if he's fit enough to do so. Felt for him a bit today as he was thrown into an unfamiliar role but he was at fault for the Hull goal, as was Kelleher.

He might still be a useful option in that role.

How was he at fault for the Hull goal?

Only Kelleher’s immediate family might cling to that one.

 

[badgerbee]

He wouldn't get another suspension until 10 yellows would he?

No.
His YC card count has been re-set to 4 I believe.
He'll get another 1 game suspension when he reaches 5 Yellows.
And a 2 game suspension when (if) he reaches 10 YCs by GW32

 

[badgerbee]

Aren't yellow cards competition specific?

Not Yellows I don't think.
Anyway, before we get told off by Edmundo, this is the AH thread. Guess discussion on VJ's availability/possible suspensions should be discussed on his thread.

 

[Bridge Bee]

He’s potentially our best footballer but doesn’t get in the first choice 11. Strange one.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

The 5 yellow rule only applies to the first 19 EPL games.

 

[brentford born & bred]

Not Yellows I don't think.
Anyway, before we get told off by Edmundo, this is the AH thread. Guess discussion on VJ's availability/possible suspensions should be discussed on his thread.

Which players are suspended or close to a ban in Premier League matches?

See who's missing Premier League matches or is at risk because of yellow or red cards

www.premierleague.com

 

[hanworthbee]

He’s potentially our best footballer but doesn’t get in the first choice 11. Strange one.

Is he though? He doesn't start ahead of Kayode, or Potter or Diouf

 

[Scratchy]

How was he at fault for the Hull goal?

Only Kelleher’s immediate family might cling to that one.

He was sold a hospital pass but he shouldn't have been in that position to receive that pass in the first place. Should have been further forward.

 

[A Real Mysteron]

He was sold a hospital pass but he shouldn't have been in that position to receive that pass in the first place. Should have been further forward.

Whilst I respect your opinion, I can’t see that in any way at all.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

He was sold a hospital pass but he shouldn't have been in that position to receive that pass in the first place. Should have been further forward.

I would say it's the deep lying midfielder's job to come short and bring an opposition player with him, thus leaving more space further up the pitch. Just shouldn't be passed to if tightly followed.

 

[Scratchy]

I would say it's the deep lying midfielder's job to come short and bring an opposition player with him, thus leaving more space further up the pitch. Just shouldn't be passed to if tightly followed.

Not that short though.

 

[jbee]

He’s potentially our best footballer but doesn’t get in the first choice 11. Strange one.

Really?

 

[cliffbee]

He’s potentially our best footballer but doesn’t get in the first choice 11. Strange one.

I accept people see football and footballers differently but IMO he's not even in the debate to be potentially our best footballer. I won't list others but he certainly wouldn't make my top half a dozen.

 

[Scratchy]

Whilst I respect your opinion, I can’t see that in any way at all.

That's absolutely fair enough. We all see things differently.

 

[Griffingreen]

Yes, obviously limited options today so forced hand. I just don’t think it worked. You need specialists and he looked like he was playing out of position, in my opinion.

Somehow got x2 votes in MoM?

 

[cliffbee]

Somehow got x2 votes in MoM?

Every week we get a 'comedian' or two who finds it amusing to vote for someone who had a stinker or got off the bench for two minutes.
I'm not suggesting Hickey had a stinker but he looked like a full back playing midfield. As someone else said, it's the same with Ajer, who looks like a CB playing full back when he does that role.

 

[jlove]

I would say it's the deep lying midfielder's job to come short and bring an opposition player with him, thus leaving more space further up the pitch. Just shouldn't be passed to if tightly followed.

Exactly, Kelleher should never have even attempted the pass with a clear high press all over Hickey that also made a long ball risky. There's a lot of questions to be answered in the debrief: where were the defenders; surely they could see what was happening, so who showed to receive the pass; who should be taking organisational responsibility in that high press situation.

 

[Wilton Bee]

To me he was playing too deep as a DM and therefore being too close to Ajer/VDB to be effective enough in my opinion. I'm sure he'll learn from it, but we were much better once Damsgard came on in his usual role leaving Sangare to drop a bit.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Not that short though.

Indeed, something wasn't right in execution but I think the principle is sound. Fully on Kelleher though imo, pass shouldn't have been contemplated given the Hull midfielder's position.

 

[NickThe(Half)Greek]

Essentially the same goal Jensen scored vs. Man Utd when he dispossessed Eriksen (and we won 4-0). De Gea made the wrong decision passing out to Eriksen. Kelleher made the wrong decision passing out to Hickey.

 

[North London Bee]

Totally the keeper’s fault as he’s the only one facing the play and can see who’s pressing.

Button did the same at Swindon in 2014 costing us the game.

 

[Freebee]

Yeah but he also made a genuine (somewhat successful) attempt to play the ball.

Had he not done that and just pulled the guy back, it’s a red card.

I'm not laying any of the blame at Hickey's door.It was stupid for Kelleher to pass to him under pressure like that.

 

[hanworthbee]

We do the same pass week in week out and Janelt is the recipient . Wasn’t the best pass though to him

 

[Freebee]

We do the same pass week in week out and Janelt is the recipient . Wasn’t the best pass though to him

Agreed.

The difference is that Janelt is a DM and well drilled for it and Hickey has no experience there and Kelleher should know that.

 

[Greybeard]

Every week we get a 'comedian' or two who finds it amusing to vote for someone who had a stinker or got off the bench for two minutes.
I'm not suggesting Hickey had a stinker but he looked like a full back playing midfield. As someone else said, it's the same with Ajer, who looks like a CB playing full back when he does that role.

Is Aaron on the GPG?

 

[Sandybee]

I would say it's the deep lying midfielder's job to come short and bring an opposition player with him, thus leaving more space further up the pitch. Just shouldn't be passed to if tightly followed.

Yes but it’s amazing how often this error occurs. It makes me cringe sometimes too, when he boots the ball upfield at the last moment when confronted by an attacker. I think I’ll teach myself to look away in future.