WarrenBee
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Nice to see him get a bit of his own Medicine last night, and how ironic to hear Souness complaing as well.
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The Grimsby guy should have been sent off, and should now get a long ban.
Halsey bottled it and is a weak ref.
Halsey bottled it and is a weak ref.
hanworthbee
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i think shearers a bit thick, its obvious after watching the replay a few times that the bloke never looked at shearer then clocked him with his elbow, its inconclusive whether its deliberate or not, anyhow Al got the last laugh in the end.
but the ref who sent offthe Barnet keeper, what a ******, yellow card at best
but the ref who sent offthe Barnet keeper, what a ******, yellow card at best
emel bee
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typical shearer,loves dishing it out but cant take it.you could see the grimsby player offer him outside after the game
Edmundo
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Payback time for the many occasions on wish Shearer has been happy to dish it out. Who was the player he kicked in the head and only got off with it because it was about to be the World Cup in 1998?
I missed the Barnet incident, but did he clearly intend to handle it outside the box, was it misjudgement or momentum? I always think it's incredibly harsh to give someone a straight red for something unintended unless it's crazily reckless and unsporting.
I missed the Barnet incident, but did he clearly intend to handle it outside the box, was it misjudgement or momentum? I always think it's incredibly harsh to give someone a straight red for something unintended unless it's crazily reckless and unsporting.
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Edmundo said:
i think the barnet keeper just lost his bearings. it in no way prevented a scoring opportunity, which was the initial reason for making handling outside the box a red card offence. refs have to use more common sense
Neil Lennon, btw... The Shearer incident last night was hilarious, but think Mr Whittle may have a few games out suspended...
Bee H
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Alan Shearer has sufered payback !
For years and years Mr Shearer has used his elbows full stop, adored by the Geordies an Angel he is not !
Was it Gavin Mahon who ended up with a tennis ball bump on his forehead after our trip to St James Park the other year ?
Payback me thinks, end of !
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/league_cup/4380872.stm
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For years and years Mr Shearer has used his elbows full stop, adored by the Geordies an Angel he is not !
Was it Gavin Mahon who ended up with a tennis ball bump on his forehead after our trip to St James Park the other year ?
Payback me thinks, end of !
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/league_cup/4380872.stm
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Les Beeavinu
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Edmundo said:
He took a comfortable catch in the D and then trotted back in the area. The referee has confirmed that he was sent off for two bookable offences, 1 for the offence and the other for being such a ****wit.
Bee H
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Les Beeavinu said:
lol rofl lol
Hopefully the Nelson knockers were watching that last night, other keepers do make mistakes !
Imagine the poor bloke who was substituted so they could get their reserve keeper on ! lol lol lol
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Re: Alan Shearer has sufered payback !
Yeah but he is a damn good player,mind you he seems to be crying over sour milk on this one.
Bee H said:For years and years Mr Shearer has used his elbows full stop, adored by the Geordies an Angel he is not !
Yeah but he is a damn good player,mind you he seems to be crying over sour milk on this one.
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I think Shearer offered him outside first then seemed to back off when Whittle seemed to agree by pointing out side. I believe Jeff Whittle is ex -army as well, so more than able to handle himself.emel bee said:
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Posh George said:
cool, but what about Justin Whittle?
There's nothing to discuss for disciplinary reasons in my mind.
As the commentator on sky said after the 2nd incident, now it's 1-1.
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Bee H said:
Yep, could have been his one & only chance to play @ Old Trafford. Report I heard said he hadn't had a touch of the ball & then gets subbed through no fault of his own.....
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WarrenBee said:Nice to see him get a bit of his own Medicine last night,
couldn't agree more, he's been doing that ever since he got in southampton's first team.
rebus
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Edmundo said:
then either of those factors mean there wasn't intent!! I could not believe he got a red card - yellow yes.
Les Beeavinu
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I think it difficult to judge whether it was intentional or not. He had a striker bearing down on him so I reckon he panicked and warranted the card.
If the Bournemouth keeper did the same on Saturday there is no way we tolerate anything but red so IMO ref was just doing his job. I see they've appealed but I don't think he'll get off.
If the Bournemouth keeper did the same on Saturday there is no way we tolerate anything but red so IMO ref was just doing his job. I see they've appealed but I don't think he'll get off.
rebus
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I'm not debating whether or not it was intent. I don't believe it was a clear goalscoring opp at the edge of the box. Is this what you are getting at?Banana said:
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The point is that the only decision where "intent" comes into the referee's decision is "intentional handball". For every other decision it doesn't matter whether or not you "intended" to (say) clatter into someone - it's still a foul
Edmundo
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Of course it does! If the referee doesn't reckon the player intended to handle the ball, then he shouldn't award a free-kick or punish the player.Banana said:
Please bear in mind that I haven't seen this incident!
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Edmundo said:
Perhaps but if it causes a disadvantage to the opposing team, then he has to be punished. This is why some players get sent off by refs and a pen given for handball even if the ball is blasted at them at point blank range.
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markbfc said:
Didn't they highlight John Terry he should have had a pen against him on Sunday when he spread his arms to stop the ball going past. That was ball to hand but I think that there was intent on his part. If you follow last night's ruling it should have been a sending off and pen to Everton.
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If a referee penalises a player for handball, then either (a) he deems that it was intentional or (b) he does not know the rules. Causing a disadvantage to the opposing team is not relevant to the issue of whether or not to award a free-kick or penalty for handball.markbfc said:
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Edmundo
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I think Terry intended to use his arms to block the ball, so it should have been a penalty. And if the ref thinks it stopped a goal, or a clear goal-scoring opportunity, then it should also have been a red card. I suspect that the ref didn't know which part of Terry's spreadeagled body it hit!Les Beeavinu said:
Edmundo
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i watched the Barnet one, i didn't even think it was outside... the linesman flagged. however, it didn't deprive the ManU forward of getting the ball, so i don't think he should have been red carded.
Richard Beeby is a fine referee... i could name 30-40 refs who are worse.
Richard Beeby is a fine referee... i could name 30-40 refs who are worse.
Edmundo
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They are rules, they just choose to call them 'laws'! :thumbs: :kicksselfforgettingcaughtoutsmilie:markbfc said:they are laws not rules! :thumbs:edant:
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Re: The Barnet Keeper
from manutd.com ;
Barnet's hopes of a Carling Cup shock at Old Trafford against a young and impressive United side were dashed after just two minutes as the Bees capitulated in a moment of bizarre judgement from their goalkeeper Ross Flitney.
In the back of the minds of Barnet's players there must have been the thought that their big day out at Old Trafford could end in heartbreak. They could not possibly, however, have envisaged it would happen in such a way.
Flitney, for a reason only he will be able to explain, came out of his area and caught what had seemed a relatively harmless through-ball. Perhaps it was nerves playing on such a big stage, maybe he mis-judged his positioning. Either way it rather harshly earned him a red card.
It was a start neither side wanted. For United, this was the chance to test some of the young players against physical Football League opposition. For Barnet, it was their big night. The referee could have been more forgiving, but played to the letter of the law and sent off the Bees goalkeeper.
Flitney trudged off despondantly to a standing ovation, while there is sympathy also for Louie Soares, the Barnet defender who was sacrificed to bring on substitute goalkeeper Scott Tynan.
from manutd.com ;
Barnet's hopes of a Carling Cup shock at Old Trafford against a young and impressive United side were dashed after just two minutes as the Bees capitulated in a moment of bizarre judgement from their goalkeeper Ross Flitney.
In the back of the minds of Barnet's players there must have been the thought that their big day out at Old Trafford could end in heartbreak. They could not possibly, however, have envisaged it would happen in such a way.
Flitney, for a reason only he will be able to explain, came out of his area and caught what had seemed a relatively harmless through-ball. Perhaps it was nerves playing on such a big stage, maybe he mis-judged his positioning. Either way it rather harshly earned him a red card.
It was a start neither side wanted. For United, this was the chance to test some of the young players against physical Football League opposition. For Barnet, it was their big night. The referee could have been more forgiving, but played to the letter of the law and sent off the Bees goalkeeper.
Flitney trudged off despondantly to a standing ovation, while there is sympathy also for Louie Soares, the Barnet defender who was sacrificed to bring on substitute goalkeeper Scott Tynan.