WarrenBee
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Alan Shearer
Nice to see him get a bit of his own Medicine last night, and how ironic to hear Souness complaing as well.

Edmundo said:Payback time for the many occasions on wish Shearer has been happy to dish it out. Who was the player he kicked in the head and only got off with it because it was about to be the World Cup in 1998?
I missed the Barnet incident, but did he clearly intend to handle it outside the box, was it misjudgement or momentum? I always think it's incredibly harsh to give someone a straight red for something unintended unless it's crazily reckless and unsporting.

Edmundo said:Payback time for the many occasions on wish Shearer has been happy to dish it out. Who was the player he kicked in the head and only got off with it because it was about to be the World Cup in 1998?
I missed the Barnet incident, but did he clearly intend to handle it outside the box, was it misjudgement or momentum? I always think it's incredibly harsh to give someone a straight red for something unintended unless it's crazily reckless and unsporting.
Les Beeavinu said:He took a comfortable catch in the D and then trotted back in the area. The referee has confirmed that he was sent off for two bookable offences, 1 for the offence and the other for being such a ****wit.
Bee H said:For years and years Mr Shearer has used his elbows full stop, adored by the Geordies an Angel he is not !![]()
I think Shearer offered him outside first then seemed to back off when Whittle seemed to agree by pointing out side. I believe Jeff Whittle is ex -army as well, so more than able to handle himself.emel bee said:typical shearer,loves dishing it out but cant take it.you could see the grimsby player offer him outside after the game
Posh George said:I think Shearer offered him outside first then seemed to back off when Whittle seemed to agree by pointing out side. I believe Jeff Whittle is ex -army as well, so more than able to handle himself.
Bee H said:Imagine the poor bloke who was substituted so they could get their reserve keeper on ! lol lol lol
Griffin said:I've always thought Richard Beeby is a first class **** and he confirmed it last night at Old Trafford.
WarrenBee said:Nice to see him get a bit of his own Medicine last night,
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Edmundo said:was it misjudgement or momentum?
"intent" doesn't come into it.markbfc said:then either of those factors mean there wasn't intent!! I could not believe he got a red card - yellow yes.
I'm not debating whether or not it was intent. I don't believe it was a clear goalscoring opp at the edge of the box. Is this what you are getting at?Banana said:"intent" doesn't come into it.

Of course it does! If the referee doesn't reckon the player intended to handle the ball, then he shouldn't award a free-kick or punish the player.Banana said:"intent" doesn't come into it.
Edmundo said:If the referee doesn't reckon the player intended to handle the ball, then he shouldn't award a free-kick or punish the player.
Nope!markbfc said:Perhaps but if it causes a disadvantage to the opposing team, then he has to be punished. This is why some players get sent off by refs and a pen given for handball even if the ball is blasted at them at point blank range.
markbfc said:Perhaps but if it causes a disadvantage to the opposing team, then he has to be punished. This is why some players get sent off by refs and a pen given for handball even if the ball is blasted at them at point blank range.
er............. if you read my post again.......Edmundo said:Of course it does! If the referee doesn't reckon the player intended to handle the ball, then he shouldn't award a free-kick or punish the player.
If a referee penalises a player for handball, then either (a) he deems that it was intentional or (b) he does not know the rules. Causing a disadvantage to the opposing team is not relevant to the issue of whether or not to award a free-kick or penalty for handball.markbfc said:Perhaps but if it causes a disadvantage to the opposing team, then he has to be punished. This is why some players get sent off by refs and a pen given for handball even if the ball is blasted at them at point blank range.
I think Terry intended to use his arms to block the ball, so it should have been a penalty. And if the ref thinks it stopped a goal, or a clear goal-scoring opportunity, then it should also have been a red card. I suspect that the ref didn't know which part of Terry's spreadeagled body it hit!Les Beeavinu said:Didn't they highlight John Terry he should have had a pen against him on Sunday when he spread his arms to stop the ball going past. That was ball to hand but I think that there was intent on his part. If you follow last night's ruling it should have been a sending off and pen to Everton.
We seem to have drifted onto a discussion of the Barnet red card!The H said:aren't we talking about an elbow :scratch:
Ah OK.The H said:aren't we talking about an elbow :scratch:
Edmundo said:he does not know the rules.
They are rules, they just choose to call them 'laws'! :thumbs: :kicksselfforgettingcaughtoutsmilie:markbfc said:they are laws not rules! :thumbs:edant: