Gone Elsewhere Andre Green

[West Wilts Bee]

He has fallen from grace and not got a club for a good reason. His recent loan spells have not been too impressive.

He is at a turning point. At 22 will he drift out of the game or will he realise he’s in the last chance saloon and resurrect a fading career?

He has all the talent in the world. It all depends on his attitude.

I don’t think he’d even had got through the door if we had serious doubts about him.

I’m sure we have some January plans but maybe a short term contract might be the way ahead and be best for all parties.

this would be a good club for him, in terms of a better attitude.

 

[beebopalula]

You always worry about rumours of attitude . However given how strong we are in assessing character suitability l can't believe he would be trialing unless a significant change has occurred for whatever reason. Let's face it our weakness in wide performance and lack of goals has restricted us. I'd fast track him in .

 

[sheffbee]

We'll soon know if he passes the no dickheads test

 

[nick logan]

Hope this is a goer ,not that i am unhappy in anyway with SC and BM

 

[A Real Mysteron]

I would suggest it’s to replace Baptiste for this season.

 

[nick logan]

I would suggest it’s to replace Baptiste for this season.

SB is a central midfielder , AG is a wide player

 

[Pauly Paul]

I'd suggest a player out of contract in December probably hasn't made consistent good decisions

But coming to Brentford FC might be the first of many?

 

[A Real Mysteron]

SB is a central midfielder , AG is a wide player

SB is a central midfielder , AG is a wide player

that doesn’t seem to matter much in our midfield at the moment.

 

[Bigbee]

he has unfulfilled potential , we have an excellent coaching team . He is a free agent isnt he ?

 

[Pauly Paul]

Seems to be at 22 where Ollie was at 19/20?

 

[nick logan]

that doesn’t seem to matter much in our midfield at the moment.

it does as AG is not a central midfielder .
in any case despite the negative vibe of your post the team are 10 unbeaten , which is almost unheard of in the Championship so a midfield missing CN and SB must be doing well enough.

 

[A Real Mysteron]

it does as AG is not a central midfielder .
in any case despite the negative vibe of your post the team are 10 unbeaten , which is almost unheard of in the Championship so a midfield missing CN and SB must be doing well enough.

No negative vibe at all. It seems that we try to fit players in despite what we believe to be their preference;
Eg Ghoddos/ Emiliano wide when they seem to be natural number 10 types.
Wide players on sides that don’t favour their preferred feet.

 

[fencer/bee]

Seems to be at 22 where Ollie was at 19/20?

horses for courses, Ian Wright was around 22 yrs when he singed for Palace, that didnt turn out to bad.

 

[nick logan]

No negative vibe at all. It seems that we try to fit players in despite what we believe to be their preference;
Eg Ghoddos/ Emiliano wide when they seem to be natural number 10 types.
Wide players on sides that don’t favour their preferred feet.

we don't play with a no 10 so their only chances to play are in the wide areas although both could play in the middle 3 if CN and VJ are playing if needed in an emergency imho

 

[jlove]

A 10 playing as an 8, particularly the more box-to-box one of the pair, should not be a difficult thing to do; a wide attacker playing as an 8 is a different thing... Nowadays, in a front three, it is perfectly usual to play inverted wingers as the wide attackers as it allows them to play in the half-spaces with the full-backs going outside to overload.

 

[ladbroke]

horses for courses, Ian Wright was around 22 yrs when he singed for Palace, that didnt turn out to bad.

Jamie Vardy left Fleetwood for Leicester aged 25.

 

[A Real Mysteron]

A 10 playing as an 8, particularly the more box-to-box one of the pair, should not be a difficult thing to do; a wide attacker playing as an 8 is a different thing... Nowadays, in a front three, it is perfectly usual to play inverted wingers as the wide attackers as it allows them to play in the half-spaces with the full-backs going outside to overload.

I don’t get the inverted wingers business.
They can’t cross the ball with their weaker foot.

 

[jlove]

I don’t get the inverted wingers business.
They can’t cross the ball with their weaker foot.

That's because they're wide attackers and modern football is about creating overloads. Gone are the days of John O'Mara.

 

[ruislip bee]

That's because they're wide attackers and modern football is about creating overloads. Gone are the days of John O'Mara.

Sigh. What a player - in division 4 nearly 50 years ago - but what a player.

 

[JANORAK]

I don’t get the inverted wingers business.
They can’t cross the ball with their weaker foot.

Some would say they’re struggling with their stronger foot at the moment!
A sign of improvement though. Last night Bryan went past his man on the outside....

 

[condorman]

if we can get him on terms that work for both parties why wouldn’t we give him a try currently. I think we’ve looked at him for a while so he is a known opportunity/risk. We’ve been underwhelming out wide this season (odd performance aside) so if he comes in and owns the shirt that can only be a good thing

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

Let's hope he is better than the last out of contract player we took a punt on.

 

[Bill Benn]

After listening to our head of recruitment I would think we have better lined up for January.

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

Villa season ticket holder.....

AG IS mustard, but needs and arm round him and some proper coaching"

 

[Delbee]

Let's hope he is better than the last out of contract player we took a punt on.

Sorry you have got me there, Who?

 

[neilbee]

Worth a punt. Nothing to lose.?.

 

[readingbee]

Villa season ticket holder.....

AG IS mustard, but needs and arm round him and some proper coaching"

Sounds just like Benrahama, TF is good at supporting players in that way.

 

[AB]

After listening to our head of recruitment I would think we have better lined up for January.

Some guy who can barely make it off the bench at a local PL club who’d pay us several million to take him off their books?

 

[andyrew]

horses for courses, Ian Wright was around 22 yrs when he singed for Palace, that didnt turn out to bad.

Sang not singed

 

[james121bees]

Deffo think this is worth a punt, one position we’re looking weak is out wide. Toney is feeding off scraps sign this lad up nothing to lose!

 

[Mr Cynical]

Villa season ticket holder.....

AG IS mustard, but needs and arm round him and some proper coaching"

Perfect for Frank then..

 

[Delbee]

Deffo think this is worth a punt, one position we’re looking weak is out wide. Toney is feeding off scraps sign this lad up nothing to lose!

I don’t know much about the lad but.

No transfer fee so should be able to find a reasonable deal for him as someone said earlier a bit like Moses . 1 year plus option for extra year. I would think that if he’s here and turning out for the BSquad he’s pretty happy here

 

[A Real Mysteron]

There was reported interest from us for Green this time last year.

 

[kewbee]

That's because they're wide attackers and modern football is about creating overloads. Gone are the days of John O'Mara.

Please explain that!

 

[Sandybee]

Sorry you have got me there, Who?

Karelis. He played half a game and went off injured and was out for most of the season. We extended his 12 month contract by a month or so due to the playoffs.To be fair it was open knowledge that he was out of club due to previous injuries so the Bees took a punt, and it didn’t pay off.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

Karelis. He played half a game and went off injured and was out for most of the season. We extended his 12 month contract by a month or so due to the playoffs.To be fair it was open knowledge that he was out of club due to previous injuries so the Bees took a punt, and it didn’t pay off.

Hardly his fault. He looked impressive in that game. It was just unlucky.

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Some guy who can barely make it off the bench at a local PL club who’d pay us several million to take him off their books?

Eh?

 

[AB]

Eh?

Benrahma. I’m joking, obviously but if they really don’t want him and are tied by the obligation to buy they could agree with us to buy that out at a discount and return him from loan. Possibly.

 

[jlove]

Please explain that!

You'll find a lot on line but (an oversimplification), if you have 3 attackers, then they are outnumbered by a defensive 4: LB-LCB-RCB-RB. So, you need to overload on one side by the wide attacker going in between the back and centre back – the half space (inside forward as it used to be) – and another player going outside, usually the full back/wing back, with a midfielder pressing up; these positions may be rotated. Generally the wide attacker is in the best shooting position on his 'wrong' foot. I hope that makes sense, just think Liverpool / Man City and the way they do it.

 

[ruislip bee]

You'll find a lot on line but (an oversimplification), if you have 3 attackers, then they are outnumbered by a defensive 4: LB-LCB-RCB-RB. So, you need to overload on one side by the wide attacker going in between the back and centre back – the half space (inside forward as it used to be) – and another player going outside, usually the full back/wing back, with a midfielder pressing up; these positions may be rotated. Generally the wide attacker is in the best shooting position on his 'wrong' foot. I hope that makes sense, just think Liverpool / Man City and the way they do it.

No you're making it far too complicated. Big John just steamed through the middle and John Docherty crossed onto his head. Goal!

 

[jlove]

No you're making it far too complicated. Big John just steamed through the middle and John Docherty crossed onto his head. Goal!

... barging both centre backs out of the way, with one ending up in the goal with the ball. Football was so much simpler then.

 

[shouldbee]

... barging both centre backs out of the way, with one ending up in the goal with the ball. Football was so much simpler then.

Yep, slice of orange and a fag at half time................proper athletes eh ?

 

[nick logan]

Some would say they’re struggling with their stronger foot at the moment!
A sign of improvement though. Last night Bryan went past his man on the outside....

must be doing something right as 10 games unbeaten and amongst top scorers

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

Hardly his fault. He looked impressive in that game. It was just unlucky.

I would have said with his injury record it was as close to a dead cert.

 

[North Northants Bee]

must be doing something right as 10 games unbeaten and amongst top scorers

If I am honest I’m not so sure it’s us doing things right....more just a case of how poor everyone is in this league! Whether that’s to do with all the fixtures I don’t know but the quality is very bad at the moment in the whole division

 

[AB]

If I am honest I’m not so sure it’s us doing things right....more just a case of how poor everyone is in this league! Whether that’s to do with all the fixtures I don’t know but the quality is very bad at the moment in the whole division

Or that it’s like 14-15 when there were 8 strong clubs all broadly equally capable of promotion and surviving in the PL if successful? Coincidentally the last time Bournemouth, Watford (both of whom survived several seasons up) and Norwich were battling it out together here.

 

[readingbee]

Back to Andre. Just watched him on YouTube, he certainly could offer us something different ( currently) if there’s a deal to be had.

 

[nick logan]

If I am honest I’m not so sure it’s us doing things right....more just a case of how poor everyone is in this league! Whether that’s to do with all the fixtures I don’t know but the quality is very bad at the moment in the whole division

AFCB , Watford , Norwich ,Swansea and us are very good sides , trust me.

 

[North Northants Bee]

AFCB , Watford , Norwich ,Swansea and us are very good sides , trust me.

It depends on your definition of “very good”, we weren’t good enough for promotion last year and we aren’t as good this season. Three of the teams you mention were all relegated and aren’t stronger than last year and it’s the same with Swansea, they have lost Brewster, Gallagher and Rodon. Again it doesn’t mean the teams you mention aren’t capable of playing a good game but the league this season is poor. Anyway back to the point I wouldn’t mind signing Andre!

 

[Les Beeavinu]

If I am honest I’m not so sure it’s us doing things right....more just a case of how poor everyone is in this league! Whether that’s to do with all the fixtures I don’t know but the quality is very bad at the moment in the whole division

Probably for exactly the same reason we're not so good.