Andy Scott

[West Wilts Bee]

Pretty much what most people knew should be done - And knew it some weeks ago.

But what do we know ?

Some think your being funny when you say what you see. It is not only this season our midfield has been bare. It was like it last season. For me it has been so obvious. This is the most important position IMO.

 

[wadbee]

TB to AS at the training ground - 'this new computer programme says we only have an average of two shots on goal per match'.
AS to TB - 'seems a bit cavalier to me, sounds as if we need another holding midfielder to nullify any quick throwouts from the oppo if one of those shots is straight at the keeper'
Shock Horror - Scott needs a statistician to tell him that we dont shoot and
as a result dont score any goals !

 

[LuisMelville2]

TB to AS at the training ground - 'this new computer programme says we only have an average of two shots on goal per match'.
AS to TB - 'seems a bit cavalier to me, sounds as if we need another holding midfielder to nullify any quick throwouts from the oppo if one of those shots is straight at the keeper'
Shock Horror - Scott needs a statistician to tell him that we dont shoot and
as a result dont score any goals !

In the league Brentford are averaging 11.1 shots per game and are 7th in total shots attempted in the division.

Shot on target per league game 5.1
Shots off target per league game 6.0

In all competitions for League 1 clubs Brentford (prior to tonight's matches) are third with 137 shots in total. First are Peterborough 180 and second Southampton 155.

Whatever the reason(s) for Brentford not scoring goals; The stats suggest Not shooting isn't one of them. (All stats courtesy of The Football League website).

Please note that I am not Andy Scott's statistician.

 

[Ubee]

In the league Brentford are averaging 11.1 shots per game and are 7th in total shots attempted in the division.

Shot on target per league game 5.1
Shots off target per league game 6.0

In all competitions for League 1 clubs Brentford (prior to tonight's matches) are third with 137 shots in total. First are Peterborough 180 and second Southampton 155.

Those make interesting reading.

 

[Paul O'Brien]

Who, Andy Scott?

No - I cam't see AS's name in the quote from your post or in my answer. I was referring to MA.

 

[Paul O'Brien]

Those make interesting reading.

And surprising reading. I wonder how many of those are from a distance - that's one of the issues I've been raising.

 

[hypa123]

In all competitions for League 1 clubs Brentford (prior to tonight's matches) are third with 137 shots in total. First are Peterborough 180 and second Southampton 155.

Whatever the reason(s) for Brentford not scoring goals; The stats suggest Not shooting isn't one of them. (All stats courtesy of The Football League website).

This despite Scott being without a substantial part of his strike force (Simpson, MacDonald, Cort) for a significant number of matches.

 

[detours]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...10/oct/06/brentford-bid-to-punch-above-weight

Ok I am an AS fan, but we do NOT play patient passing football. Granted, our passing was much better against Charlton, but impatient attacking football would better describe our style.

 

[jlove]

One thing seems sure. The fans, accustomed as they are now to unaccustomed success, will still give the manager plenty of slack.

Hmmm

 

[Bigbee]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...10/oct/06/brentford-bid-to-punch-above-weight

Ok I am an AS fan, but we do NOT play patient passing football. Granted, our passing was much better against Charlton, but impatient attacking football would better describe our style.

I dont think that reporter has ever seen us play if you read the rest of the drivel

 

[West Wilts Bee]

No - I cam't see AS's name in the quote from your post or in my answer. I was referring to MA.

Good for you.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

In all competitions for League 1 clubs Brentford (prior to tonight's matches) are third with 137 shots in total. First are Peterborough 180 and second Southampton 155.

.

125 of those were in the first half at Swindon and the second half in Bristol.

 

[nick logan]

125 of those were in the first half at Swindon and the second half in Bristol.

lol

 

[hounslowbeeforever]

Sack him now! He only got us promoted, of course we have more money than Man City (honestly) and the Everton game means nothing, who the hell are they damn toffees.
Forget stability and go for broke, hopefully Leroy will come back and it's happy days

 

[hounslowbeeforever]

Sack him now! He only got us promoted, of course we have more money than Man City (honestly) and the Everton game means nothing, who the hell are they damn toffees.
Forget stability and go for broke, hopefully Leroy will come back and it's happy days

 

[detours]

Sack him now! He only got us promoted, of course we have more money than Man City (honestly) and the Everton game means nothing, who the hell are they damn toffees.
Forget stability and go for broke, hopefully Leroy will come back and it's happy days

Is there an echo in here?

 

[NorthamptonBee]

If AS thinks that was the worst ever then I am glad I didn't go.
I could give him a short but long precis of some horrors with the word sh*te if he wants it.
I do take my hat off to him though, none of this we were the best side bollox when we obviously were not. I hope those days are over.

 

[nick logan]

If AS thinks that was the worst ever then I am glad I didn't go.
I could give him a short but long precis of some horrors with the word sh*te if he wants it.
I do take my hat off to him though, none of this we were the best side bollox when we obviously were not. I hope those days are over.

It was a poor game but with Woodman at RB and ending up Hunt and Sam in the middle, it was a good win. We enjoyed ourselves anyway.

 

[scruff puppy pup]

I dont think that reporter has ever seen us play if you read the rest of the drivel

About twelve months ago, I read an article in the Grauniad previewing the Sheffield derby in which the journo was talking to the respective chairmen and saying that Wednesday were better set up for Premiership football, had a long term plan, blah, blah, blah. Look where they are now.

 

[Brentford 4 Life]

TB to AS at the training ground - 'this new computer programme says we only have an average of two shots on goal per match'.
AS to TB - 'seems a bit cavalier to me, sounds as if we need another holding midfielder to nullify any quick throwouts from the oppo if one of those shots is straight at the keeper'
Shock Horror - Scott needs a statistician to tell him that we dont shoot and
as a result dont score any goals !

Say what you want about the bloke but he is still on for the quadruple this season.

 

[wadbee]

Say what you want about the bloke but he is still on for the quadruple this season.

Were past the quadruple - we got six league goals now - sextet, I believe
- two from Forster on Saturday will make it an octet.
We've still got a quadruple of goalkeepers though, but no attacking central
midfielder, but we are working hard in training to turn Bean and Dave into
the Van der Varte of Div 1.

 

[shouldbee]

It was a poor game but with Woodman at RB and ending up Hunt and Sam in the middle, it was a good win. We enjoyed ourselves anyway.

So are you implying that Sam and Hunt weren't effective as a central midfield duo ?

 

[Brentford 4 Life]

Were past the quadruple - we got six league goals now - sextet, I believe
- two from Forster on Saturday will make it an octet.
We've still got a quadruple of goalkeepers though, but no attacking central
midfielder, but we are working hard in training to turn Bean and Dave into
the Van der Varte of Div 1.

See you at Wembley at least once this season.

 

[Sweepy]

"Our forward players have been too isolated, we worked to try and push the midfield up."

:bound::bound:

AS makes it sound like his idea, but word is that a bloke a few rows AS in New Road has relentlessly been ordering the team to "push up, Brentford, push up Brentford" for weeks.

Finally, AS has belatedly taken his cue from the master tactician.

 

[jlove]

I guess it started with "keep it tight, Brentford", that explains the lack of goals conceded.

 

[nick logan]

So are you implying that Sam and Hunt weren't effective as a central midfield duo ?

No not at all, just that they haven't played much and Sam isn't a CM in my humble opinion.

 

[Banana]

I've been in the cellars of the GPG this morning, dirty jobs but someone's got to check for damp. Anyway, I walked past a thread called "Welcome back scotty" from 10 years ago next month. I dusted it off and opened it and found a post from the man himself. Anyway, here's the restored post - ahhhh the nostalgia:

Don't know what you've been looking at cos I haven't posted for a long time! So if someone is posting under my name beware! I'm still here always watching, and know what you've been talking about for the last couple of weeks. I agree with Gibbo about his sentiments concerning the fans, support, abuse, encouragement etc. after all WE are supposed to be a CLUB and that doesn't just mean the players or the management but the fans and everyone associated with Brentford F.C home and abroad. It amazes me that some people come on here just to slag people off be it the players, staff, each other and any one else they can think of. Sometimes it feels as though some people just come to Griffin Park to have a go at someone or anyone because they have nothing better to do! Either that or they're getting beaten up by the wife at home and want to take revenge on someone else!!!! As Gibbo says we're trying as hard as we can to put things right on the field, but we are only going to get so far unless EVERYONE is on the same side. We all know it is frustrating at times watching us play and believe me we don't enjoy playing badly and getting beaten all the time, but remember this is our job and if we don't get it right our careers are more or less over- which I for one don't exactly relish the prospect of!! Maybe the change in situation at the club may help but then again it may take time if different tactics or approaches are used so now is the time when you may have to be patient, but I'm positive it'll be worth while in the long run if we all stick together! Let's play,support,sing and win together- it's the only way to suceed.
P.S I'd like to say the comments regarding Pete Gilham and responses to his messages are totally out of order.He is a well respected member of BFC and many players owe a lot to his enthusiasm and commitment to the club.PG IS Brentford FC and if abusing him makes people think the club is going to get anywhere, think again, he has more ideas, and passion than anyone else at the club and taking a leaf out of his book may just benefit everyone else associated with it. That includes the players as well as the fans. Let's stick together! It makes sense!

 

[Kingston Bee]

I've been in the cellars of the GPG this morning, dirty jobs but someone's got to check for damp. Anyway, I walked past a thread called "Welcome back scotty" from 10 years ago next month. I dusted it off and opened it and found a post from the man himself. Anyway, here's the restored post - ahhhh the nostalgia:

Very interesting and must say I fully agree with the post. It is as relevant today as it was then...

 

[Ubee]

AS makes it sound like his idea, but word is that a bloke a few rows AS in New Road has relentlessly been ordering the team to "push up, Brentford, push up Brentford" for weeks.

Finally, AS has belatedly taken his cue from the master tactician.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

 

[Steve G]

I've been in the cellars of the GPG this morning, dirty jobs but someone's got to check for damp. Anyway, I walked past a thread called "Welcome back scotty" from 10 years ago next month. I dusted it off and opened it and found a post from the man himself. Anyway, here's the restored post - ahhhh the nostalgia:

That was at the end of the period 1989 - 1999 'Ten traumatic years'.

Since then we've had the period 2000 - 2009 'Ten even more traumatic years' so I suppose you can understand why some short-sighted fans get a bit frustrated at times by perceived lack of progress. The new stadium had only been talked about for three years then, now it's 14 so we all need to be more patient for success both on and off the field.

 

[magicbees]

Is he still here, just recovered from Tuesday's awful performance, so glad there wasn't extra time, only 22% want him out, can't still believe its still that low. Without doubt one of the worse ever Brentford games, even AS said it was shocking and he gets paid to watch it.

 

[Bill Benn]

Is he still here, just recovered from Tuesday's awful performance, so glad there wasn't extra time, only 22% want him out, can't still believe its still that low. Without doubt one of the worse ever Brentford games, even AS said it was shocking and he gets paid to watch it.

Think you will find there is a truce at the moment may resume pending the Oldham result.The goalkeeper PROBLEMis the hot topic at the moment as it seems we have 2 good goalkeepers.Major problemlol

 

[wadbee]

Is he still here, just recovered from Tuesday's awful performance, so glad there wasn't extra time, only 22% want him out, can't still believe its still that low. Without doubt one of the worse ever Brentford games, even AS said it was shocking and he gets paid to watch it.

He actually gets paid to manage it and is responsible for it. Two goals away
from home -one in the league and one in the JPT - in seven matches.
None in the last four.
If we get to Wembley it'll be set the stall out for another 0-0 and hope for
a breakaway goal.
He may now be through the denial stage, that little is wrong and 'we were the better team' and into telling it as it is - 'the worst game of football etc etc'.
How long before he admits its all down to a lack of guile and flair in central
midfield ?

 

[IslandBee]

He actually gets paid to manage it and is responsible for it. Two goals away
from home -one in the league and one in the JPT - in seven matches.
None in the last four.
If we get to Wembley it'll be set the stall out for another 0-0 and hope for
a breakaway goal.
He may now be through the denial stage, that little is wrong and 'we were the better team' and into telling it as it is - 'the worst game of football etc etc'.
How long before he admits its all down to a lack of guile and flair in central
midfield ?

:yawn::yawn::yawn:

 

[Carri Bee Un]

I've been in the cellars of the GPG this morning, dirty jobs but someone's got to check for damp. Anyway, I walked past a thread called "Welcome back scotty" from 10 years ago next month. I dusted it off and opened it and found a post from the man himself. Anyway, here's the restored post - ahhhh the nostalgia:

Excellent post from Andy there, good archeologing

 

[GP200]

Is he still here, just recovered from Tuesday's awful performance, so glad there wasn't extra time, only 22% want him out, can't still believe its still that low. Without doubt one of the worse ever Brentford games, even AS said it was shocking and he gets paid to watch it.

....................watched far worse games last season........................

 

[beebopalula]

It looks like AS has converted to possession football if his interview on the OS is to be believed.

 

[magicbees]

....................watched far worse games last season........................

You need a medal.

 

[nick logan]

Is he still here, just recovered from Tuesday's awful performance, so glad there wasn't extra time, only 22% want him out, can't still believe its still that low. Without doubt one of the worse ever Brentford games, even AS said it was shocking and he gets paid to watch it.

It was nowhere near one of the worse ever Brentford games. What is your problem ? Is he still here indeed. No we sacked him after the excellent win and performance against Charlton.

 

[Paul USA]

No, we kept him on after a totally inept performance by Charlton who had not done their homework and worked out how to play againt us.

I am not for sacking anybody but beleiving we had an excellent performance against Charlton is even rosy red glasses for Nick Logan

 

[nick logan]

I am not for sacking anybody but beleiving we had an excellent performance against Charlton is even rosy red glasses for Nick Logan

I thought we played really well in the first half.

 

[Paul USA]

You must have been in the pub then !!!!!

 

[Paul O'Brien]

You must have been in the pub then !!!!!

If he was, it must have been a very big pub, because there has been a general consensus of opinion that the first half performace against Charlton was a good one that could have seen us going in leading by morte than we did. No point rewriting history.

 

[detours]

Our performance in the first half against Charlton was definately the best league performance I have seen this season. We were 2 goals up in half an hour, that was even better than Wednesday.

 

[nick logan]

You must have been in the pub then !!!!!

No mate, in the paddock

 

[sussexb]

Yep, thought Charlton was very Sven. "First half good. Second half... not so good."

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

You must have been in the pub then !!!!!

I presume you're on a wind up Paul because I seem to remember you waxing lyrical about what had been an outstanding first half performance at half time.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

I will ask this question, how will we play tomorrow? It would be boring if we knew we would be brilliant every week but I have never known us to be so unpredictable, will we beat sh*te and surrender or will we turn up?
I find it scary that I haven't a clue with Scott's sides, not a scooby as to how we will play.

 

[scruff puppy pup]

I will ask this question, how will we play tomorrow? It would be boring if we knew we would be brilliant every week but I have never known us to be so unpredictable, will we beat sh*te and surrender or will we turn up?
I find it scary that I haven't a clue with Scott's sides, not a scooby as to how we will play.

I was thinking the same thing earlier this week. Can't figure out this team at all, other than that they seem unlikely to score many goals.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

No, we kept him on after a totally inept performance by Charlton who had not done their homework and worked out how to play againt us.

I am not for sacking anybody but beleiving we had an excellent performance against Charlton is even rosy red glasses for Nick Logan

I thought we played really well in the first half.

If he was, it must have been a very big pub, because there has been a general consensus of opinion that the first half performace against Charlton was a good one that could have seen us going in leading by morte than we did. No point rewriting history.

Our performance in the first half against Charlton was definately the best league performance I have seen this season. We were 2 goals up in half an hour, that was even better than Wednesday.

I presume you're on a wind up Paul because I seem to remember you waxing lyrical about what had been an outstanding first half performance at half time.