Bees v Blackpool

[Edmundo]

To be fair on the ref (and I'm not often fair on the ref), it was the second time that Dobbo took the same free kick before the ref blew his whistle. I don't think he had any choice but to book him.

It was actually a good game, which I only didn't enjoy because of nicotine withdrawal. Smudger was our best player, but their best player was their 'keeper too.

 

[scaramanga]

anyone know what that explosion was in the first half?

For those who weren't there, midway through the half there was a series of explosions like fireworks going off and then a long wooden pole and a smaller object landed in the middle of the pitch before being removed by one of their players and by Tony Rougier.

The explosion was a firework

 

[RitchBee]

Thought we were lucky to get a point.
Smithy proves what a good keeper he is.
More displays like that and he'll be moving on.

Why did he take Rougier off, Hunt had a stinker and should have gone off instead.

Lack off tactical awareness again on Wally's part.

 

[C-Bee]

Have to agree with Ed on Dobbo's booking - he did do it twice, which with a ref as daft as this one is asking for trouble. Talking of the ref, since when did attempted strangulation not constitute a foul???

Anyway, top marks for Smudger once again and some pretty good attempts on goal denied by good saves from their man, so reasons to be a bit cheerful do exist !

Keep up those mints Ed. x

 

[Dave Davis]

id like to see hutch replaced with evans for saturday with kev in middfield to support him...

almost a great own goal from one of their players at the end..

and ive decided hutchs place in the side cannot be justified purely because he wins a few flick ons everynow and then..

how he managed to miss three times from less then 5 yards i will never know(not taking away the fact the keeper made a couple of smart saves) but he really should have hit the target from that distance..

Hunt had a stinker and after two seasons of trying cant beat the first man with any of his crosses...


sonko was solid but his and dobbos passing from the back was terrible..

hopefully wally will get out his Jimmy Hill book of football tactics and get around to the part where we score some goals by saturday.

 

[chippendale]

BBC report.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/3101748.stm

 

[California Bee]

What does it mean?

Thought we were lucky to get a point.
Smithy proves what a good keeper he is.
More displays like that and he'll be moving on.

Not suggesting he let's a few go by just to maintain his place at Griffin Park then?

 

[Thomas Bathurst]

I personally think we played well last night, without having any real cutting edge.

First things first - the thing that pleased me most was a complete turn around in style. Wally (for last night anyway) seems to have abandoned the long ball tactics. Instead of Smithy booting the ball long the whole game, he was rolling it out to defenders. When the defenders got the ball, they actually ran it out of defence or played it short (although Sonko did his a few dodgy longish balls). It was a vast improvement on style, and suits us much better.

Once again the team looked much more organised. The defence looked solid. We actually looked like we knew what we were doing at set pieces (defending and attacking).

Was a bit baffled with the substitution of Tabb on for Smith after 30 mins. Personally I thought Jay Smith was having a good game, while Eddie had been anonymous. I can only imagine Smith had a knock.

Both teams man of the match were the goalkeepers - and as other have said on another day the score could have been 2-2. Dobbo had a good long range effort saved, Eddie had a cracking header (much like the one he scored this season) saved, as (I think it was) did Tommy Wright. On the whole we seemed much more keen to have a go.

I think this was our best performance for quite some time, and the confidence looks like it is returning. If we can continue to play like we did last night (it was a further improvement from the Rushden game), keep the organisation and confidence, and sort the central midfield area out we'll do okay this season. We certainly won't go down that's for sure.

Last night was the type of performance that I thought the players should be (at least) putting in every week, and why I personally was so frustrated at the long ball rubbish being served up previously. When these players are allowed to play it on the deck we actually look quite good.

A special mention for Dobbo last night who I thought was fantastic and looked back to his best. He even seemed to have the extra yard of pace back, that seemed to have disappeared. Other good performances from May who worked hard and led the line well, Roget and Sonko, Paul Smith and for his work rate alone Kev O'Connor.

P.S. Thank you to Stephen Hunt who gave me the biggest laugh of the season with his captains column in the programme. Either he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer or it was ghost written for him by a 6 year old. "I like Dobbo, Dobbo is good because he is nice. And I like Leo too, because he is the greatest and he makes me laugh like my friend Danny. And Wally is good too, because he tells me I am good. And I like red and white because Brentford play in Red, and they also play in white and I like white too"

 

[JBN]

I thought our first half performance was pretty good, it amazes me how we can have 60-70% possession in their half and create very little.

Surprised to Smith come of, it was a bit of a turning point, despite Tabbys enthusiasm, we seemed to expose ourselves a bit more.

Dobbo was stupid for getting booked.

The second half, Blackpool had the edge, they more chances on goal and if it wasn't for Smithy being in such superb form, we would not have got a point.

We played good football, but we can't get it in the net. We should have gone in 2 or 3 up at half time. Our defence seems to be back on form, but from there forward, we are lost.

Hunty wanted to win everthing last night and ended up getting in the way of others. We lost our shape, Dobbo was alone on the righht and Blackpool exploited that.

I would have taken Eddie off, even though he had a good game, and dropped Rougier into centre and bought on Wright with 30 mins to.

Our midfield is crying out for a playmaker and Rougier could be the man.

 

[Leonardo]

I too couldn't understand Rougier going off as all the play in 1st half going through him and he was getting a lot of change from their defence!

I'm sorry for someone who said Dobson was better going forward. I wish he did rather than hoof 50 yard aimless passes. Please think about running with the ball!

Tabb had good game adding much neederd bite to midfield. Did Jay Smith do anything about from 1 pass before departing?

Fieldwick solid defensively but man his distribution was very poor.

Tommy Wright looks excellant prospect.

May looked OK to me.

What is the problem people have with Sonko? He looked excellant yesterday (all right 1 little mistake) as he won everything with his height, strength and speed and looked in good form beside equally impressive Roget. Behind them Smith proved what a top notch keeper he is.

PS That firework was loud. Didn't wake dosy ref up though!

 

[New Roader]

Thought we were lucky to get a point.
Smithy proves what a good keeper he is.
More displays like that and he'll be moving on.

Why did he take Rougier off, Hunt had a stinker and should have gone off instead.

Lack off tactical awareness again on Wally's part.

Not a bad performance with Smithy in superb form. Certainly he will be moving on sooner ratherthan later.
Could not understand at all why Rougier went off, (unless injured). Poor tactical decision by Downes there.
Also could not understand why Somner came on for Fieldwick when surely Evo should have come on as we were being over run in the midfield.

Overall, it was a good game, with a draw the fair result.
Thought Roget was excellent at the back, but was disappointed with Hunty and May.
Eddy Hutch should also get a mention as he had a good game.
Also O'Konner is not a striker and should be in the middle of the or out wide.

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

The 2 halves were like 2 different games. In the first half I don't think we had one shot on target and I only remember Smithy having to stop one long-range effort. In the second half, he must have saved us half a dozen times and their keeper also made 3 superb saves.

If the first substitution was tactical (and Jay Smith's reaction suggested he wasn't injured) then I'd applaud Wally for making a change so early when we were obviously lacking creativity... and, as usual, Tabb showed more control and awareness than anyone else in midfield or up front.

Less sure about the second substitution: when I realised it was Wright coming on, I thought that it would either be one of the strikers coming off as they hadn't looked threatening, or Hunt/Hutchinson coming off with O'Connor moving back into midfield. When Rougier's number came up, I think the crowd were all as surprised as him, though he hadn't had a great influence until then.

The change in formation then was a complete failure: playing 3 strikers doesn't make you an attacking side if you don't get enough ball to feed them, and playing 3 narrow in midfield meant we were exposed down our right flank; until then Blackpool had almost never attacked down that side, but once they realised they had a permanent 2 on 1 against Dobbo, they poured through and only Smith saved us. I can't understand why Wally couldn't see that at the same time as the rest of us, and pull Kev back to wide right, where he is used to playing.

 

[Bee H]

Hutchinson OUT !

Anyone remember when we had a midfield ? There was so much space at times you could have built a slip road for the M4 across the pitch.

Jay Smith had a mare and Wally must pull his hair out like we do when there's a huge gap for a midfielder to run in to but instead they launch it. Improved when Jay Tabb came on - hy doesn;t he start a game ?

Second half saw me cringing at someone who is somehow employed as a professional footballer - Eddie 'Clean Kit' Hutchinson. This bloke should not be at the Club imho. Watched him several times last night and he was glaringly guilty of ;

1. going to mark one of their players by standing behind him but watching the opponent lay the ball off and move forward 10 yards to collect a return pass whilst Eddie stayed where he was

2. jogging up the field when we attacked, a couple of times he hadn't even made the half-way line when their keeper was pulling off another save

The ref was abysmal, time for retirement for him me thinks !

I doubt that a neutral would come back after watching that last night. Wally must sit down and analyse the video of the game and then 'share a few thoughts' with certain players.

Paul Smith and their keeper were outstanding and Tommy Wright looks very exciting and worth the entrance fee alone. Still can't understand the criticism of Sonko, him and Leo have a tough job when there's nothing in front of them bar wave after wave of the opposition midfield and forward line, Sonko will play at the very highest level in the game.

I'd like to see Sir Evo back on loan for a month to play alongside Jay Tabb, okay the height might not be there (understatement !) but Jay will learn an awful lot and we've a sh1t tough month coming up next month

 

[Wee Dave]

Not a bad game, and I'm reasonably happy with a point. Their number 22 threatened to tear us apart towards the end, and we are indebted to Smiffy for keeping us intact.

Sonko's defending was quality but his distribution ****ing awful. Embarrasingly so. Scuffed the ball more than once.

 

[Paul O'Brien]

First things first. Last night’s match was probably the best display by two keepers I’ve ever seen.

Dobbo’s booking: the ref was (unfortunately) right. He’d warned us twice at the same free kick – I’ve seen some refs book teams on the first offence.

May’s penalty that wasn’t – I was right behind it. Both players were tangling with each other at first; the ref may have considered the trapped arm as a continuation. The disallowed goal: not sure – as had happened earlier, I thought the keeper was impeded by his own player.

Smithy: (and their keeper): Brilliant.

Dobbo: good in defence but his passing wasn’t great.

Sonks: excellent in defence but his long passes are always ten yards too long.

Roget: pretty good.

Fieldwick: abysmal in defence; better in attack. I think what’s happening with our defence is that our centrebacks are being pulled over to the left to add cover for Lee and that leaves Dobbo exposed – a similar pattern to earlier games. I’ve said before that I rate Fieldwick but at the moment I’d rather have Somner there.

Rougier: drifted in and out too much.

Jay Smith: controlled the game nicely apart from one bad missed tackle just before he went off. Most plays seemed to go through him. (I liked the way we tried to build up from the back in the first half hour.) I see Wally says it was tactical; I had been surprised – he didn’t seem injured, and in any case I’d have expected Wally to bring on Somner at right back and move Dobbo to midfield.

O’Connor: one brilliant last ditch tackle late in the second half; otherwise anonymous.

Hutch: another solid game – won most things in the air and won a corner for us through determination; cue the first ‘Eddie Eddie Eddie’ chant I can remember hearing. Also our most potent threat (by the way, the header that hit the post was turned onto it by their keeper). Also prepared to get hurt in the cause. If you don’t like him, fine, but judge on what you’re seeing, not on what your prejudices are, please.

Hunt: tackled back and won more headers than he had a right to, but awful in attack when it came to crosses.

May: led the line well.

Tabb: liked the look of him bossing the game. Could be worth another try in the Jay Smith role.

 

[Matty D]

Quite entertaining for a 0-0, they'll feel more unlucky not to have won as Smithy pulled off a few more unbelievable saves than their keeper.

Nice to see Wally:
a) picking Fieldwick ahead of Somner at LB, when he wasn't forced to.
b) making an attacking substitution when we weren't losing.

Not so nice to see him:
a) not starting Wright
b) leaving Hunt on when he was having a stinker, and taking Rougier off
c) persisting with O'Connor up front, Jay Smith in the side and Dobbo at right back.

I'm gradually being won round by Eddie Hutch - but only if you accept that he's an attacking midfielder, and his job is to get in the box and attack crosses, and that he needs a holding midfielder behind him. Unfortunately Jay Smith is the ONLY defensive midfielder on the club's books (whoops - how did we manage that?) and we've got four or five better attacking midfielders than Hutch....

Dobbo or Sonko need to be moved into midfield to play the holding role, midfield is where games are won and lost and at times last night our midfield was non-existent when they had the ball. Evans MUST be carrying an injury not to get on the pitch, he was exactly what we needed to put some backbone in the midfield.

Until Evans and Frampton are fit I'd start 3-5-2:

P Smith
Somner Roget Sonko
Rougier O'Connor Dobbo Tabb Fieldwick
Wright May

And when they're fit, we might actually have a selection headache:

P Smith
Somner Roget Sonko
Dobbo/Rougier O'Connor Evans Tabb Frampton/Fieldwick
Wright May/Rougier

 

[ice]

I cant believe people are being positive about the performance last night. It was crap, yes the game was entertaining but that is often the way with two poor sides.
Hunt appears to still be sulking over not getting a big move during the summer, perhaps a loan to Aldershot in place of Peters may focus the mind.
Rougier who people are praising for his performance was in my mind lucky to stay on as long as he did, yes he got a lot of the ball but unfortunately it then went no further than a Blackpool player, hes no answer to the mess at GP.
Wright and May will score goals but possibly not at Brentford, Shearer and Van Nistelroy could have played up front last night and wouldnt score without some decent service.
Roget and Sonko looked ungainly but reasonably solid but when will we pass the ball out of defence rather than the big hoof to anyone, normally the opposition as we fail to use the right hand side of the pitch
As for fieldwick and Hutch all has been said before.

Then to cap it all off Wally is happy with the performance.

If that is really the case then dont expect many more supporters to come flocking back to GP, get used to playing in front of 3500 and accept that the end is in sight.

I am not being negative but realistic, i wil still buy the season tickets, donate to bees united and put in the bucket collections but in return i would like to see some FOOTBALL





:mad1: :mad1:

 

[Banshee Mildew]

Not a bad game but how some people feel that the result could have been 3-3 or even 4-4 is beyond me when you consider the fact that we only had two shots (headers actually on target) all night (Hutchinson and May headers).

Smith made three outstanding saves (especially the last one) but my MOM goes to Jay Tabb for his relentless work rate and effort.

Mysteries....

1. Where did that bloody rocket firework get launched from?

2. Why did the Ref book May for a foul which the linesman gave and for which the Ref did not consult with the linesman?

 

[Thomas Bathurst]

Not a bad game but how some people feel that the result could have been 3-3 or even 4-4 is beyond me when you consider the fact that we only had two shots (headers actually on target) all night (Hutchinson and May headers).

I might be wrong, but from where I was sitting, Dobbo's low 20 yarder looked on target too. Then there was the melee, when the ball ended up in the back of the net.

 

[Matty D]

I might be wrong, but from where I was sitting, Dobbo's low 20 yarder looked on target too. Then there was the melee, when the ball ended up in the back of the net.

Agree. Plus the slightly scuffed shot on the turn (Hutch again?) which the keeper did well to turn round the post. And the bullet-header from their own defender was due to pressure from a couple of Bees players right behind him who I reckon would have done much the same thing with it.

So their keeper made two saves which were so good we were already celebrating the goal, and a couple more which were pretty smart.

Agree the overall performance was still not good enough, and a better team would have beaten Blackpool comfortably. It was better than Plymouth though!

 

[Wee Dave]

1. Where did that bloody rocket firework get launched from?

2. Why did the Ref book May for a foul which the linesman gave and for which the Ref did not consult with the linesman?

1. I don't know, but I doubt Tony Rougier will be advertising for the Fireworks Code this Nov 5th

2. Because the ref was a big fat a-hole

 

[Banshee Mildew]

Yeah you guys are right Dobbo's shot was definitely on target plus the late goal mouth scramble. So say four (maybe five) headers/shots on target, but in 90 minutes this ratio simply is not good enough.

BTW...the Ref actually blew for a foul on their goalkeeper before he even attempted to reach the ball. In fact no Brentford player collided with the keeper at all.

 

[Jimbee]

Q. When was the last time we kept 2 clean sheets in a row?

 

[Bee H]

Hutch: - judge on what you’re seeing, not on what your prejudices are, please. .

I do but obviously our opinions differ

hence "imho" in my postings, perhaps you'd care to try that or are you right 99% of the time and mistaken the other 2% ?

 

[Thomas Bathurst]

Q. When was the last time we kept 2 clean sheets in a row?

February. We actually kept 3 clean sheets in 4 games (0-0 @ Bristol City, lost 1-0 to Blackpool, then beat Luton & Huddersfield 1-0 each)

 

[Banshee Mildew]

..........O'Konner is not a striker....

Nor is he a Brentford player rofl

 

[Griffin]

Here's my opinion on last night;
Nice to see a different kick off where we didn't just boot the ball out.
Blackpool were poor, we were worse, they were there for the taking but we didn't have the creativity to break them down.
Good decision by Downes to bring Tabb on early as that's exactly what we needed but I would have taken Hutch off instead of Smith who I thought was doing quite well (he was very pissed off to be subbed) We were being allowed to take the ball past the halfway line without Blackpool opposing but there was no movement. When Sonko has the ball with Nine teamates in front of him not moving an inch, what is he supposed to do ? He tried to hit some direct passes which didn't work out but he didn't have many options. Wright should have been on from the start, Rougier shouldn't have been taken off.
Hunt can't cross a ball to save his life,
Hutch wouldn't get in my Sunday league team,
O'Connor is not a striker, he's far more effective in midfield or on the right,
Fieldwick's distribution is atrocious.
Two games in a row our golkeepers have been MotM which I don't want to become a habit. I'm absolutely delighted with the Four points from the last Two games but I think we can be so much better if we start with our best players in the correct positions.
Great effort from all of the players.

 

[mhead bee]

I am afraid I thought we were very poor last night.

I looked at our players and thought we actually have a really good set now. man for man we have a team that is equal in ability to most sides in this division. When we finally made the substitutions we even had virtually the formation and players that we have been screaming for all season.

The problem is that we are so disorganised it is just ione big mess!

100% effort from every player, but Blackpool, a very very average side, when they decided after 10 mins to join in the game just cut through us like butter.

How many times did their midfield play the ball up to the front two, then he ran into a position to recieve the ball back. This genius manouvre was suffucient every single time to totally take our midfield out of the game!

Our defence did not at one time go out and close the attacking players, the young fieldwick was having a mare because nobody was doing the right things in defence, talking and working as a unit, so no wonder he started to go to pieces!

Our midfield either totally forgot to track the moving player, or two of them went to close the ball leaving acres of space behind them! When blackpool broke with 6 versus 4 our defense didn't know what to do and ended up being roasted and therefore if it wasn't for smith pulling of 4 world class saves, stopping two one on ones and a string of other saves we would have be mullered last night!

We actually nearly nicked it last night as their goalkeeper pulled off 3 magnificent saves too but what concerns is that all our chances seem to have come from corners although we have loads of possession.

Even if we got a new coach in now to work with the defence and the midfield how long would it take to teach them the basics and do we have enough time to do it?
We need to find 4 teams worse than us, that's all, so please god help us find them.

As for the ref..it is difficult to be too critical as it was his first professional game (wasn't it surely? ) If he deemed that to be a foul on tabb then it is a red card full stop. I thought the player got the ball but the ref gave a foul so has to send him off but not even a yellow , then he books dobbo for taking a free kick half a second early. I actually thought the ref put his whistle in his mouth and waved his arm, hardly cheating by dobbo really..very very petty when he let their player pull and push us all night and then waste time blatantly without even a word!

 

[Bee49]

Fieldwick at left back is a disaster.
He's got no idea how to defend.
His marking is non-existent and gives the opposition acres of room.
He also trots aound like someone in a daze.Apart from that,he's alright.
Surely we have got someone at the club who can do a better job.
Don't tell me he's young,he's 21.

Also I think TV companies should compensate football clubs if they are showing matches when there is a full league playing that night.Attendances everywhere were down.

 

[New Roader]

Nor is he a Brentford player rofl

Sorry, O'Konnor
Always have trouble with that one

 

[mhead bee]

Also I think TV companies should compensate football clubs if they are showing matches when there is a full league playing that night.Attendances everywhere were down.

supply and demand mate..if eastenders decided to show something that was more interesting than total garbage (I know that is a silly concept) and we lost 500 people to TV, would you expect the BBC to compensate that as well?

 

[West Ealing Bee]

I thought we played fairly well last night. We attempted to play through the midfield and brought our midfield into the game rather than by-passing it.

I was surprised to see Smith brought off, Hutch was having a mare at that point, but did improve afterwards and Smith was doing ok. Good to see an attacking change though.

Thought it was going to be a bit dull after the first half, Blackpool defended well and didn't look too ambitious. In the second half when they attacked it was quite a good game, both keepers made great saves.

Our switch to 4-3-3 was very puzzling, we had no width and were attacked mercilously down the right, O'Connor didn't seem to know where he was supposed to be and Hunt didn't stay narrow enough.

At least we're picking up points and moving up, 2 clean sheets is also good.
If we keep that effort up and have a more creative midfield we might do ok this season.

 

[Bee H]

How many times did their midfield play the ball up to the front two, then he ran into a position to recieve the ball back. This genius manouvre was suffucient every single time to totally take our midfield out of the game!

wasn't just me then Mr O'Brien

Our midfield either totally forgot to track the moving player, or two of them went to close the ball leaving acres of space behind them! When blackpool broke with 6 versus 4 our defense didn't know what to do and ended up being roasted

I've always liked mhead bee

 

[Hammered]

......I am not being negative but realistic....
:mad1: :mad1:

Ice - much of what you said may be true (I don't agree with it but you are entitled to your opinion) but when your statement contains not one single positive observation then you are clearly focusing on the down side of everything and being negative.
There are some factual positives, viz; second clean sheet, another point on the board, the generally accepted view that Paul Smith returned after a three match lay off and performed superbly - the club has at least two valuable assets in Smith and Julian.

 

[Ace Face]

I thought we were outclassed at times last night, but we battled and when you are battling and keep it at 0-0 you have a chance.

Another point to safety.

I thought Hutch, Fieldwick, Hunt were very poor.

Rougier, May,Smith, O`Connor, Roget, Sonko, Dobson average.

Smith superb - please someone come in with £500k.

I still don`t like Dobbo as full back - gets done by pace every time.

 

[Pauly Paul]

Question about our midfield.

Which of our midfielders demand possession of the ball and which do not?

From my observations:

Do's - Tabb, Evans, O'Connor

Don'ts - Hutch, Smith

We CAN'T have a central midfield pairing where neither of them want posession of the ball!

It's NEGATIVE REACTIONARY football, i.e. only react to what's going on.

We need POSITIVE CREATIVE football where we dictate play and create chances.

 

[MK Bee]

I was in a great position to see Smithy's saves in the 2nd half, and that tip over the bar was world class.

Fieldwick is a crap left back, he is drawing too many defensive resources in as cover, leaving us over exposed.

O'connor bottles out of too many tackles, maybe carring an injury??

Play was too one dimensional, looking for the long ball to Hunt on the left almost every time.

 

[Stap Bee]

It's NEGATIVE REACTIONARY football, i.e. only react to what's going on.

We need POSITIVE CREATIVE football where we dictate play and create chances. [/B]

Spot on! We are constantly chasing the play, not dictating it.

We were lucky to get the point last night.

 

[New Roader]

I completley agree with that
Great point

 

[mhead bee]

I was in a great position to see Smithy's saves in the 2nd half, and that tip over the bar was world class.

Fieldwick is a crap left back, he is drawing too many defensive resources in as cover, leaving us over exposed.

O'connor bottles out of too many tackles, maybe carring an injury??

Play was too one dimensional, looking for the long ball to Hunt on the left almost every time.

I think you are being a tad hard on fieldwick. He has only a few games under his belt and is totally isolated. His only role models are two centre back who do their own thing. 1 on 1 ibu and roget are excellent players but as a unit it is all disorganised and nobody talks. if terry evans or batesy were at the back you would see a far better talent emerging in fieldwick but nobody leads the line and tells him what to do! Unfortunately he is going the same way as somner, an excellent talent that is having the spirit drained from him by a disorganised shambolic team.

 

[homerbees]

Sorry, O'Konnor
Always have trouble with that one

you must mean O'Connor

----
"I like Dobbo, Dobbo is good because he is nice. And I like Leo too, because he is the greatest and he makes me laugh like my friend Danny. And Wally is good too, because he tells me I am good. And I like red and white because Brentford play in Red, and they also play in white and I like white too"

I hope Steve Hunt wrote this himself!rofl

 

[JonnieGee]

......... Shearer and Van Nistelroy could have played up front last night and wouldnt score without some decent service.

Totally agree. Both Rougier and Hunt did not get one decent cross in during the match (when they were in positions to do so). The whole team played too deep not getting forward when they had chances to. Both Hutch and Smith are not creative players and when Tabb got in the attacking third he showed he was capable of opening them up.

Having said that 'pool did defend well and made it difficult, but we should have done better creating chances.

We really need to start to deliver quality balls into the penalty area to give our strikers a chance!

 

[New Roader]

you must mean O'Connor

----
"I like Dobbo, Dobbo is good because he is nice. And I like Leo too, because he is the greatest and he makes me laugh like my friend Danny. And Wally is good too, because he tells me I am good. And I like red and white because Brentford play in Red, and they also play in white and I like white too"

I hope Steve Hunt wrote this himself!rofl

Thought something did not look right

 

[Ace Face]

Good point about support for Fieldwick from the CBs.

It is a big concern for me that we have no talkers or leaders in the team, I also think that no one respects Dobbo as captain. I think somehow as well as keeping the club out of administration we need to juggle our cards to get a hardman talker into midfield.

How we could possibly afford an expereienced pro is luckily a problem I can pass onto BU.

I do think if we look hard we can see problems all through the side, so I am not going to look.

How many points to safety I reckon 56 will do it.

 

[The H]

Fieldwick got clattered and spent 20 mins limping around the pitch. he didn't have a great game, but his distribution is still better than Somner's.
(you can compare them both because they both did shocking passes)




Firework came from behind New Road stand and landed on the Braemar roof with a massive thud

 

[Paul O'Brien]

"...do but obviously our opinions differ

hence "imho" in my postings, perhaps you'd care to try that or are you right 99% of the time and mistaken the other 2% ?"

Bee H... I took a look at the early reviews, came off line and prepared my posting, and then sent it without worrying about anyone's comments that might have been posted in between. My comments weren't directed at you as such. If they had been, I've had said so.

In fact, your comments were at least based on specific instances, which means you're judging on what you saw, so that's cool. (Tho' I didn't see your imho get out clause, or am I going doolally?)

I do think that with Eddie it can be a case of 'give a dog a bad name' from some people. That was my point: a bit like the tendency for some people to blame Somner for goals earlier in the season without their even being at the game.

No, I'm not right 99% and wrong the other 2%. Make that right all the time except for when I'm not.

 

[Paul O'Brien]

"wasn't just me then Mr O'Brien"

Sorry, BeeH. Surely we had more than Hutch playing in midfield. I seem to remember Jay Smith, Hunty, Rougier, Tabb, etc on the pitch. So I don't get your point. Why get pompous?

I don't often agree with mhead bee, but I do this time. There was a major issue there. My question to you, Bee H is - why is it Hutch's fault more than the others? Was it he who was meant to be tracking their player back every time?

As far as I'm concerned, Hutch is not fast. He's not a ball juggler. He does put in some tackles, win the ball in the air and occasionally put in a pass. Those last two qualities are ones that we need at the moment. Add to that the facts that he does keep going, even if he arrives late, and he has shown a desire to put his head where it hurts... He wouldn't be in my Bees Dream Team - or anywhere near it. If the others played to their potential, he probably wouldn't even be in today's team. But at the moment, he's one of the faint hopes I have.

Imho.

 

[Bee H]

whoa there Mr O'Brien ! a response from the light-hearted Bee H

It's true that I've never been a fan of Hutchinson as I've never seen anything in him imho that would warrant him being a Bee.

By your own admission he's not great but it's unfortunate for him today that he played in the central midfield role that was so sadly lacking. Jay Smith was having a mare and Jay Tabb did a helluva lot better when he came on.

Our defence held firm last night although they were cut to ribbons on occasions.

Our attack showed promise but needed support

Our midfield was non-existent and the central midfield role really exposes any weaknesses as it did last night

No personal offence meant Mr O'Brien

 

[Pauly Paul]

As far as I'm concerned, Hutch is not fast. He's not a ball juggler. He does put in some tackles, win the ball in the air and occasionally put in a pass. Those last two qualities are ones that we need at the moment.

Sorry Paul, but "occasionally" putting in a pass is not what we need at the moment. We also need "some" tackles to be "lots" of tackles. I've said before, would like to see the Opta Index on Hutch's performance.

Add to that the facts that he does keep going, even if he arrives late, and he has shown a desire to put his head where it hurts...

I could go down a park in Hounslow tomorrow and find a fella with great athleticism that could simply run, tackle, run, tackle and pass 5 yards if that's all we need.

He wouldn't be in my Bees Dream Team - or anywhere near it. If the others played to their potential, he probably wouldn't even be in today's team. But at the moment, he's one of the faint hopes I have.

Imho.

A Dobbo & O'Connor centre mid partnership would be miles better than what we have now.

Fair play to Hutch though. I'd love to play to get paid for playing footy. He aint gonna simply walk away until someone tells him too. Better than working in an office!

 

[ice]

Ice - much of what you said may be true (I don't agree with it but you are entitled to your opinion) but when your statement contains not one single positive observation then you are clearly focusing on the down side of everything

Perrhaps this comes from 32 years at GP. the players we have on show are possibly talented individuals but what good is that if as a unit they cannot work together. I accept my comments are negative but if we all sit and talk about the positives we will believe that we are a good team when we most definately are not. I hope as much as the next that things turn around and then this board will be full of praise but i fear until a change of leadership and direction this will not be for some time. I also fail to see how hoping for an offer of £500,000 for Paul Smith will assist the football team, we dont have many assets and if we strip them all there is very little possibility of a thriving club. Again not negative but realistic.

Thanks WD and GT it was a good effort but next please.:box: