BFC Set-up Development Squad

[Mr Tree]

this thread did not go as intended .You thought that it was a strong line up through ?

i did yes. you?

 

[Mr Tree]

to develop players who are too old for youth but not old enough to compete for first team places?

so if there's a guy standing there available to be used as a striker, they must go out and find someone of lesser quality to use in the team, just because the title of the team might be at jeopardy? doesn't really make sense. think it's very sensible use of the facility. reserve teams are very outdated. you need to have a flexible concept. as long as the opposition didn't turn up surprised at Osborne and Weston, i'm sure all is fine :shrug:

 

[hanworthbee]

just want to see the players on the bench playing so next time the likes of Logan get injured then Kamau can step up instead of signing someone...thats all.

 

[Mr Tree]

but i'm really sure, if you look at that team, that's how it's being used!

 

[Bill Benn]

Just finished 1 1

 

[Invipai]

The teams agree in advance how many normal 'first team' professionals are allowed in each squad. But to aid players return from injury, as well as to help maintain fitness of those who have not featured recently is still part of the point.

Bare in mind we are still in the process of developing the...development squad... i.e. we still don't have a full team of 11-16 players in that squad. We only just added a goalkeeper into it a couple of months ago...

 

[Bigbee]

i did yes. you?

I wasnt sure at first tbh ,so I studied some other possible line ups that could of been used .After about 12 to 15 minutes I decided it was a strong line up after all .

 

[CTBee]

Reading the report it sounds like the lads played well and Harry scored a cracking goal
Doesn't really matter that it finished 1-1 IMO

 

[brighton bee]

Where's the match report?

 

[jlove]

On the OS...

 

[badgerbee]

Just finished 1 1

A bit disappointing considering I thought we had a pretty strong line up.

 

[Bigbee]

A bit disappointing considering I thought we had a pretty strong line up.

I thought we had a strong line up,did you ?

 

[GP200]

.............looked a second string XI...........saving the big guns for the promotion push.........

 

[Bill Benn]

A bit disappointing considering I thought we had a pretty strong line up.

The fact that forrester scored and more important got a game under his belt cheers me up.With the new loanees and a fit Forrester .....let the play off charge begin.

 

[Keighley Bee]

There is much debate going on on another thread about whether we should be giving more of our own youngsters a chance in the first team. Those against argue that they are in the development squad to get experience and bring them on there. So why do I look on the official site and see that the development squad only playing 2 games between December 20 and March 13? What use is 2 games in nearly 3 months? Or have I missed something?

 

[brighton bee]

There is much debate going on on another thread about whether we should be giving more of our own youngsters a chance in the first team. Those against argue that they are in the development squad to get experience and bring them on there. So why do I look on the official site and see that the development squad only playing 2 games between December 20 and March 13? What use is 2 games in nearly 3 months? Or have I missed something?

I believe more games were scheduled buy were called off due to weather

 

[Keighley Bee]

I believe more games were scheduled buy were called off due to weather

I grant you that, a couple of weeks they could not play anyway. But 2 games in nearly 3 months? Or how about the 6 months September to February, they played 10 games in that period, that is one game every 18 days on average. Surely they should have a game every week, if for no other reason than to keep the first team squad players who miss out on selection match fit and ready when needed?

 

[hanworthbee]

you'd think so...maybe they play 11 a side in training....

 

[blunstone]

There is much debate going on on another thread about whether we should be giving more of our own youngsters a chance in the first team. Those against argue that they are in the development squad to get experience and bring them on there. So why do I look on the official site and see that the development squad only playing 2 games between December 20 and March 13? What use is 2 games in nearly 3 months? Or have I missed something?

every few years we bring back reserves (now development squad ) then every few years we scrap it and just have a first team squad. it goes in cycles. brentford innit!

 

[jlove]

You've not been following the strategy if you think a development squad is "the reserves"; the players are on different contracts.

 

[The Pipe]

Just heard an interview on Talk Sport where they were talking about youngsters playing in the Junior/Academies for the big clubs, Chelsea seemingly have none that are likely to get near the fuirst team. Guy then went on to talk about watching park football this weekend with representatives from the Brentford Development Squad/Juniors this weekend. Was extremley complimentary and seemingly we beleive that there are still nuggetts to be discovered.

May not be instant success but this sort of planning and commitment and proffessionalism has got to be the way forward and it is fantastic to hear that we are leading the way!!

 

[8corner]

Apologies if this has already been asked but...
why on earth is the Development squad game v West Ham behind closed doors? Is this a carry over from West Hams naughtiness in Spain years ago???? Seriously though, anyone know why it's behind closed doors?

 

[jlove]

I'm not a spokesman for the club but these development games are often used to play triallists and one of the clubs may request that the game is played without observers. Maybe Torres is turning out for Brentford... or Tevez is returning to the 'ammers?

 

[Bigbee]

Apologies if this has already been asked but...
why on earth is the Development squad game v West Ham behind closed doors? Is this a carry over from West Hams naughtiness in Spain years ago???? Seriously though, anyone know why it's behind closed doors?

it was played behind closed doors based on advice by the police

 

[hanworthbee]

Liam Bellamy signs on loan at Ebsfleet for a month.

 

[blunstone]

Liam Bellamy signs on loan at Ebsfleet for a month.

he is 20 ----- and hasn't had much of a sniff at our first team, like several others. youngsters from other clubs have been borrowed and thrown-in the deep end.

i don't know what is going on but it doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[gashbee]

he is 20 ----- and hasn't had much of a sniff at our first team, like several others. youngsters from other clubs have been borrowed and thrown-in the deep end.

i don't know what is going on but it doesn't make much sense to me.

Work experience playing with the big bully boys.
Makes sense to me.

 

[hanworthbee]

Maybe Bellamy has been ear marked for the first team and has been sent out on loan to gain some rough and tumble experience? imo if there not ready for the first team at 20/21 I don't think they ever will be.

 

[North London Bee]

he is 20 ----- and hasn't had much of a sniff at our first team, like several others. youngsters from other clubs have been borrowed and thrown-in the deep end.

i don't know what is going on but it doesn't make much sense to me.

if Bellamy had been considered ready then he would be training with the first team squad. He hasn't been so he is now being toughened up by being sent out to play in The Conference.

I also want kids to come through from the Youth and Development squads but not before they are ready. Oyleleke was eaten alive by MK Dons as was Hacker/Norris when he played against Southampton last season.

We have some promising talent but I suspect if Bellamy was considered a real prospect then he would have been given an opportunity earlier given his age.

Throwing a kid in can destroy them if they have a bad initial experience and it is only the exceptional ones - of which I reckon we have about 3 or 4 who will make it.

 

[absenteebee]

he is 20 ----- and hasn't had much of a sniff at our first team, like several others. youngsters from other clubs have been borrowed and thrown-in the deep end.

i don't know what is going on but it doesn't make much sense to me.

Borrowed? Surely a missed opportunity to say loan?

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Very strong lineup again vs West Ham who have Ravel Morrison Playing for them

Lee
Griffths Osborne Pierre Woodman
Oyeleke Reeves Blake
Forrster
Weston German

 

[Brentford_till_die]

1-0 to West Ham

Weston gone off injured

 

[badgerbee]

Very strong lineup again vs West Ham who have Ravel Morrison Playing for them

Lee
Griffths Osborne Pierre Woodman
Oyeleke Reeves Blake
Forrster
Weston German

Looks like a strong line up to me.............

 

[Alex Callow]

1-0 down already! Ravel Morrison scored

 

[Brentford_till_die]

2-0 Morrison again

 

[RitchBee]

2-0 Morrison again

Sign him!!

 

[Alex Callow]

German is sounding very good, excited about him.

 

[Mr Tree]

Looks like a strong line up to me.............

that is a strong line up innit

 

[Houghton Bee]

rosler out, not good enough

 

[Trandy]

For live updates on todays game against West Ham United follow http://bit.ly/zRXvUO

 

[brighton bee]

No Eger?

 

[zuko]

Sounded like German had a good game... maybe he is being fast-tracked to the bench on Saturday, especially if Weston went off injured

 

[calzi]

Jake Reeves was our best player today, quite a scrappy game neither team good properly get hold of, lots of competitive tackles going in. Karliegh leaded the defence well, was a good partner for young Pierre, was always talking to him. Lee very vocal and had a solid game, Morrison went through one on one with him, tried to round him but Lee got a hand to it, I thought the danger was gone but somehow the ball ended up at Morrisons feet and he had an open goal. Opening minute Weston hastled his marker and got onto a long ball from Osborne, put in a great drilled cross for German who hit the bar on the half volley. Forrester was lively, always wanted the ball. Good finish from Morrison for second goal. German did well holding the ball up and won every ball lumped up to him. But yeah overall a good game, Reeves looked stronger, made some good tackles and was always available for a pass. When he got the ball everytime his head was up and he was looking to pass and move. Hope he can make his way back into the first team

 

[readingbee]

Jake Reeves was our best player today, quite a scrappy game neither team good properly get hold of, lots of competitive tackles going in. Karliegh leaded the defence well, was a good partner for young Pierre, was always talking to him. Lee very vocal and had a solid game, Morrison went through one on one with him, tried to round him but Lee got a hand to it, I thought the danger was gone but somehow the ball ended up at Morrisons feet and he had an open goal. Opening minute Weston hastled his marker and got onto a long ball from Osborne, put in a great drilled cross for German who hit the bar on the half volley. Forrester was lively, always wanted the ball. Good finish from Morrison for second goal. German did well holding the ball up and won every ball lumped up to him. But yeah overall a good game, Reeves looked stronger, made some good tackles and was always available for a pass. When he got the ball everytime his head was up and he was looking to pass and move. Hope he can make his way back into the first team

Thanks for the report.

 

[hanworthbee]

thought it was being played behind closed doors? Did you climb up the tree behind Brook Road?

 

[badgerbee]

that is a strong line up innit

A very strong line up I thought!!

 

[KGB]

Jake Reeves was our best player today, quite a scrappy game neither team good properly get hold of, lots of competitive tackles going in. Karliegh leaded the defence well, was a good partner for young Pierre, was always talking to him. Lee very vocal and had a solid game, Morrison went through one on one with him, tried to round him but Lee got a hand to it, I thought the danger was gone but somehow the ball ended up at Morrisons feet and he had an open goal. Opening minute Weston hastled his marker and got onto a long ball from Osborne, put in a great drilled cross for German who hit the bar on the half volley. Forrester was lively, always wanted the ball. Good finish from Morrison for second goal. German did well holding the ball up and won every ball lumped up to him. But yeah overall a good game, Reeves looked stronger, made some good tackles and was always available for a pass. When he got the ball everytime his head was up and he was looking to pass and move. Hope he can make his way back into the first team

Many tks. Can't understand why JR hasn't had a few more opportunities this season. I would certainly hope to see him get several 1st team outings before May - still only 18yo & bags of potential. Certainly at least as good as (better than imo) Adam Reed who seemed to be a shoe-in last season, & he's ours.

 

[wanderer paul]

Niggly injuries have hampered Jake Reeves this season. I'm sure we'll see him in the last few games once the play offs are out of reach. I think he'll come good next season. A good footballer.

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Niggly injuries have hampered Jake Reeves this season. I'm sure we'll see him in the last few games once the play offs are out of reach. I think he'll come good next season. A good footballer.

Agree. We have a few a good promising development squad players at the moment but we can't rush these guys into first team action.

A lot of them need to bulk up which Reeves looks like he's done, that's understandable most are 17/18 and they are still growing and learning playing against some very good opposition development squads. There also adapting to a different way of playing, the games are rather good and the ball is hardly ever hoofed.

With this academy it works in our favour because before after youth team at 18 you were either signed on a pro contract or released so we would loose a majority of players.
Now if players are still learning and aren't quite ready at 18, we can keep them in a development squad contract.

 

[Orp_Bee]

Huge fan of Reeves and Uwe is as well. His time will come but I do think we have to be careful of putting too much on him too young.