BFC Set-up Development Squad

[Keighley Bee]

Huge fan of Reeves and Uwe is as well. His time will come but I do think we have to be careful of putting too much on him too young.

Given his performances early in the season, I don't think perhaps a few more sub appearances would have been 'putting too much on him'.

 

[Orp_Bee]

Given his performances early in the season, I don't think perhaps a few more sub appearances would have been 'putting too much on him'.

That isnt what im referring to, obviously. Im talking about people using phrases such as "given his performances early in the season" as early in the season he started very well and then his form dipped which is extremely common in players that are only 18yo, as are niggly injuries such as hes suffered.

What were doing is giving him time to develop and he seems to be doing that nicely in the dev squad games while also building strength to aid him once he is back in the mix.

 

[Keighley Bee]

What were doing is giving him time to develop and he seems to be doing that nicely in the dev squad games while also building strength to aid him once he is back in the mix.

Which brings me back to a question I asked earlier in this thread, why are the Development Squad playing so few games? Over a six month period, I worked it out that they played on average once every 18 days.

 

[Orp_Bee]

Which brings me back to a question I asked earlier in this thread, why are the Development Squad playing so few games? Over a six month period, I worked it out that they played on average once every 18 days.

Well obviously that is partly due to the weather cancellations but yeah I agree, the more games they can get the better. Any idea how many teams actually have "Development" squads we could play? Cause it seems to me that we play West Ham half the time.

 

[Keighley Bee]

I don't accept it is due to the weather. There have been just 2 weeks of frozen pitches all winter. I am really pleased that we have the Development Squad, I am not knocking it, but surely they should have a game most weeks? If that means alternating between Nike and West Ham then so be it. Other development squads must have the same problem.

 

[Orp_Bee]

I don't accept it is due to the weather. There have been just 2 weeks of frozen pitches all winter. I am really pleased that we have the Development Squad, I am not knocking it, but surely they should have a game most weeks? If that means alternating between Nike and West Ham then so be it. Other development squads must have the same problem.

Well it isnt a matter of whether you accept it or not mate, it is a fact. The 'average' you mentioned would obviously have been different it the two (I think) games that were cancelled took place. But either way, I do completely agree with you. I think that, as you said, the issue is that there arent awful lot of dev squads around. Once the new youth system is in place I would imagine that would improve.

 

[wanderer paul]

Four members of Brentford's successful Youth Team have signed Development Squad contracts.

Emmanuel Oyeleke, who made his First Team debut this season, and Alfie Mawson have signed two year contracts while Luke Norris, who made his First Team bow last term, and Charlie Adams have signed one year deals.

4 youth players signed up for the development squad for 2012/13.

 

[Trandy]

Brentford Development Squad take on Reading Development squad this afternoon. Kick off is at 1pm.

For live updates follow: http://bit.ly/HJO0qA

 

[Trandy]

Half time: Brentford Development Squad 1 Reading Development Squad 0.

Antonio German gives the Bees the lead from the penalty spot.

For live updates follow: http://bit.ly/HJO0qA

 

[Trandy]

Full time: Brentford Development Squad 1 Reading Development Squad 1.

An own goal by Marcel Eger gives Reading a share of the spoils.

A full match report will appear on www.brentfordfc.co.uk shortly.

 

[Balders Bee]

Full time: Brentford Development Squad 1 Reading Development Squad 1.

An own goal by Marcel Eger gives Reading a share of the spoils.

A full match report will appear on www.brentfordfc.co.uk shortly.

At least we still know Marcel is alive and well!

 

[brighton bee]

Not advisable to google Coldy McAdams (played for us today) if you happen to be at work....

 

[readingbee]

Not advisable to google Coldy McAdams (played for us today) if you happen to be at work....

Nor the trialist Shacar Jamar :blush

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Not advisable to google Coldy McAdams (played for us today) if you happen to be at work....

I will have a more detailed check later to make sure your advice is sound.

 

[jharvey85]

When do we find out if dev players are being kept on? Are there any whose contract expires at the end of this season? I think Blake is one.

 

[ladbroke]

Nor the trialist Shacar Jamar :blush

who?

can't even see anything on him on Google.. unless I'm not writing it properly :s

But Coldy McAdams - formerly of Luton Town?

 

[Trandy]

But Coldy McAdams - formerly of Luton Town?

Colby McAdams has played for the Brentford youth team in the last month. You can see highlights of some of his goals for our youth team on Bees Player at http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/page/player/Home

He has come from Luton youth set-up and played in their first team. http://www.lutontownfans.co.uk/players/colby-mcadams

 

[hanworthbee]

Luke Norris offered a development squad contract

 

[brighton bee]

I thought we already knew that? Along with Mawson, Oyeleke and one other...

 

[Invipai]

Maybe it's a first team contract instead of a Development one...?

 

[hanworthbee]

maybe the chronicle twitter meant first team

 

[jharvey85]

I don't think he would get a dev squad contract and then a few eeks later a first team contract...

The dev squad promotions were: Oyeleke, Mawson, Norris and Adams.

 

[hanworthbee]

I don't think he would get a dev squad contract and then a few eeks later a first team contract...

The dev squad promotions were: Oyeleke, Mawson, Norris and Adams.

http://www.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/...91/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[Invipai]

Not the easiest name in the world, but Marcus Bean just re-tweeted Michael Onovwigun saying:

"@MOnovwigun: Just signed my contracts for @BrentfordFC from june I'm full time at the club #GoodTimes!"

Followed by:

"@MOnovwigun: So happy can't wait to be in with boys everyday learning and getting better @BrentfordFC"

One of our youth team I believe.

 

[condorman]

Formerly touted as a "wonder kid" I believe....

 

[Orp_Bee]

Listening to Alfie Mawson's interview on the OS gives me cause for optimism in the young lad. Fully acknowledges that he is lucky to be a footballer, sounds like he takes full responsiblity for his own hard work and also sounds desperate to make it.

 

[Hullbee]

Wonder when one of these development squad prospects will become first team regulars??? Cos every year for the past ten years I have heard a lot of talk about this young player and that young player but they never make the first team!! Pretty poor conversion rate

 

[sonofabee]

Wonder when one of these development squad prospects will become first team regulars??? Cos every year for the past ten years I have heard a lot of talk about this young player and that young player but they never make the first team!! Pretty poor conversion rate

Time flies, didn't realise the development squad had been running for 10 years.
Any danger you ever find something positive to post about rather than your constant carping?

 

[condorman]

Just don't remind him that Karleigh Osborne came through the youth ranks.....

 

[Stanley]

Just don't remind him that Karleigh Osborne came through the youth ranks.....

Its' a fair point though whatever you call the youth/ young player setup, KO is the only player to really come out of it over the last 10 years. The new Development squad looks very promising but so far it is just that..

 

[readingbee]

Time flies, didn't realise the development squad had been running for 10 years.
Any danger you ever find something positive to post about rather than your constant carping?

Hi mate, thing is you have to understand that anyone with Hull in there user name or lives there will be a manic depressive. So don't expect anything else TBH!!!!!

 

[Bee H]

The new Development squad looks very promising but so far it is just that..

It was announced on 5th May, 2011 that a development squad would be formed for season 2011-12 - that's some expectations levels that you have Stanley :shrug:

http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10421~2353575,00.html

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[sonofabee]

Its' a fair point though whatever you call the youth/ young player setup, KO is the only player to really come out of it over the last 10 years. The new Development squad looks very promising but so far it is just that..

Kinell, it was only set up this season - we have been top 10 all season and have still seen some youngsters feature and other first team fringe players monitored.

 

[Hullbee]

Just don't remind him that Karleigh Osborne came through the youth ranks.....

Its unfortunate that he has left as now the only first team player in our squad who came through the youth set up is King Kev and he is close to retirment...... If any of the developement squad were up to it surely Uwe would have played them against Chesterfield or in a few paint pot games

 

[condorman]

You are right of course at the moment but blaming the legacys of previous management. Give the development squad/academy tIme to fly or fail on its own merits

Oyeleke and Norris did make fleeting appearances, ditto German. And Moore came through the system albeit joining the club at a slightly older age.

 

[readingbee]

Time flies, didn't realise the development squad had been running for 10 years.
Any danger you ever find something positive to post about rather than your constant carping?

Hi mate, thing is you have to u nderstand that anyone with Hull in there user name or lives there will be a manic depressive. So don't expect anything else TBH!!!!!

 

[favershambee]

I expect to see more players developing from this development system than the previous youth team system. The potential to attract a higher calibre of player must reap rewards eventually.

It was announced on 5th May, 2011 that a development squad would be formed for season 2011-12 - that's some expectations levels that you have Stanley :shrug:

http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10421~2353575,00.html

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[Brentford_till_die]

The players in the development squad are still developing their game. Yes we have some quality and potential but they aren't ready yet for first team football. A good preseason and things maybe different but a few may go out on loan next season and earn some valuable league experience. Most of them have shown some good promising performances.

 

[Invipai]

Its unfortunate that he has left as now the only first team player in our squad who came through the youth set up is King Kev and he is close to retirment...... If any of the developement squad were up to it surely Uwe would have played them against Chesterfield or in a few paint pot games

Reeves last two games were against Barnet in the JPT and Chesterfield... But Uwe still wanted to beat Chesterfield, it's much better for the player to sprinkle them in within the other starting players, than just play a whole team of 19 year olds.

And how is King Kev close to retirement, he's 30....

The Development Squad is a long term investment though, don't expect players to be regularly coming through it for a couple of years yet. Even so, Oyeleke, Reeves, Norris and German all sound like they could break into the team in some capacity next season.

 

[jlove]

Both the youth and development squads are long-term; it seems amazing to me that people think that we sign a player to the youth or development squad, he has a couple of kick-abouts and then goes into the first team squad. We know from past experience what happens if you put a youngster in too early, especially in a losing side, and the players rescued into the development environment need to be assessed and brought through just as carefully.

It's all about percentages; BFC is not a Sunday morning team with any age playing if you've got a pair of boots.

 

[hanworthbee]

Hi mate, thing is you have to u nderstand that anyone with Hull in there user name or lives there will be a manic depressive. So don't expect anything else TBH!!!!!

is there an echo?

 

[GP200]

is there an echo?

............yep............confirmed by some Bunnymen............

 

[blunstone]

Both the youth and development squads are long-term; it seems amazing to me that people think that we sign a player to the youth or development squad, he has a couple of kick-abouts and then goes into the first team squad. We know from past experience what happens if you put a youngster in too early, especially in a losing side, and the players rescued into the development environment need to be assessed and brought through just as carefully.

It's all about percentages; BFC is not a Sunday morning team with any age playing if you've got a pair of boots.

try telling that to the new england manager: he has picked an eighteen year old. if they are good enough they are old enough.


if this is a long-term project why buy in 20 year olds? stick to 17-18 years olds.

 

[Hullbee]

if this is a long-term project why buy in 20 year olds? stick to 17-18 years olds.

your asking for it on here with a truthful and appriopriate post like this

 

[jlove]

Whether a player is 17 or 27, if they have not had the appropriate education, training, physical conditioning and coaching for a particular team and style of play, you can't just throw them into the first team, even in League 1. There's a big difference at the same age between a player brought through a Premier League (or La Liga) academy system from primary level to a part-timer (like Stuart Dallas) who shows a bit of something out of the ordinary and is worth a punt. As stated, "if you're good enough, you're old enough", with the "good enough" first. It's hardly a case of "you look old enough and you've brought your own boots... you're in"; it a professional game.

 

[sonofabee]

try telling that to the new england manager: he has picked an eighteen year old. if they are good enough they are old enough.


if this is a long-term project why buy in 20 year olds? stick to 17-18 years olds.

It's not a youth team nor a reserves league. It's a development team that gives us the chance to do just that to develop potential future first team players and fringe players fitness. There is an emphasis on youngsters but it's more than that. Do you think that Manny after one game should be deemed not good enough and binned off because he's over 18?

 

[Brentford_till_die]

try telling that to the new england manager: he has picked an eighteen year old. if they are good enough they are old enough.


if this is a long-term project why buy in 20 year olds? stick to 17-18 years olds.

Totally agree if your good enough then your old enough but the players we have aren't good enough yet

 

[Brentford_till_die]

http://www.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/...ers-handed-first-team-chance-109642-31325585/

 

[Bigbee]

Got a game later.

The 16 year old wonder kid is playing again , he must be summin ?

http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/news/article/stoke-city-preview-301213.aspx

 

[jharvey85]

1-1 according to Twitter... not sure if that was the full-time score though...