Edmundo
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Who on earth is so sad that they are upset by people rattling buckets?
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I would imagine he means people who would feel the club squanders money left, right and centre and then rattles a bucket at you to cough up more of your own cash to pay for it. I would understand there point of view but wouldnt take it out on the bucket collectors who do an excellant job.
rebus
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I wouldn't say people get upset, but If I had a season ticket for the Brook Road, I would feel a bit uncomfortable in having to pass bucket sellers at every home game.
I know this is a whole new topic but :banana: is right, it feels like Bees United is a continual drain on supporters pockets sometimes.
Bee Damned
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It happens in New Rd too, I think it's only the Braemar where the gates are wide enough to avoid them if you want to.
I'll admit I felt a bit guilty chucking only 50p in on Saturday at the same time as one old boy who was pouring out his two weeks worth of loose change in.
northantsbee
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How do you get out the ground
There are bucket collectors on every exit except the Ealing Road..........
Normally we dont sell the buckets either cos it would cost us money to replace them lol
Incidentally, i saw a family of Reading fans and a couple of Hammers, in the Brook Road.....
Bee Damned
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I don't think you need to feel guilty. If you pay your entrance fee, buy food/drink or buy a programme etc then you're contributing. I rarely put money in the buckets anymore because I feel I do my bit through a SO. I'm not entirely sure how much longer the bucket collections will be effective and maybe it's time to call it a day.
rebus
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I agree - this is no slight on those that lend their spare time but I feel the image and impression of Bees United needs to be upped.
Failing that, there needs to be an aim, perhaps repayment of the loan taken out by the Trust to help finance the takeover.
This is a cracking thread by the way on the same subject three years ago.
northantsbee
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Of course their needs to be an aim.......but do remember that half of what is donated goes to the player fund so its is 'half' targeted.
I would also say that of course there is no need to feel embarrassed if you do not wish to donate that is freedom of choice, although it would be interesting to know wny people do feel 'embarrassed.. The only time I get upset is when people abuse me for doing it.
Bee Damned
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Correct, those that stand out in all weathers with the buckets are legends.
I don't know whether it's been tried recently but what about another drive to improve the links/sponsorship between the club and those companies along the Great West Road? I know this was carried out by BU before they
takeover but the companies wouldn't commit because BU had nothing to offer in return i.e. space for advertising etc.
rebus
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The only time I get upset is when people abuse me for doing it.
They're brave then!
Perhaps we should also think about why it goes to the players' fund. After all - that's going straight in a player's personal pocket and not reducing the debt.
Seen as we are over budget I don't see why I should bail Leroy out.
northantsbee
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Perhaps a lot of things need looking at Mark.
As for them being brave, the very problem of image that you are mentioning then comes into the equation, it is very difficult for me to 'answer back' and keep being polite etc
I can only speak for myself but i try to create as professional appearance as possible, every person who donates is thanked, i am always in my Bees shirt and am willing to answer anybody's questions.
What i think we should remember is that no matter how much things appear to be waning with the bucket collections we still need that £500 + per home game to help Bees United.
Whilst the approach may not always be right we must IMHO realise that we are a Supporters Trust this in itself means that most of the funding will inevitably come from the supporters until it is estalished enough to begin corporate profiling. Unfortunately until the image 'of pi$$ing it away' is dispensed with BU, Bucket Collectors and any other volunteer is facing a tough battle to give those who donate (or not) a feeling of 'value for money'
Brain-dead Bee
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I have nothing but respect for those who stand out there with their buckets, and normally put something in on my way into Brook Rd, but on the way out on Saturday, they did seem particularly 'in your face'... perhaps it was just that I wanted to get to the pub and saw everyone in my way as unwelcome
JBN
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The Bucketeers do a good job under very difficult circumstances. I wouldn't want to do it.
The problem being, you see a crap performance on the pitch with last minute goals conceded or own goals being scored by the board, it makes life for the collectors very difficult.
They are there trying their best to raise money only for the rest of us to see it spunked up the wall by the board without an explanation.
£750 odd raised last Saturday, is not a bad show.
The problem being, you see a crap performance on the pitch with last minute goals conceded or own goals being scored by the board, it makes life for the collectors very difficult.
They are there trying their best to raise money only for the rest of us to see it spunked up the wall by the board without an explanation.
£750 odd raised last Saturday, is not a bad show.
northantsbee
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Is that the answer though? Why should those that dont give (and dont want to which is fair enough) have a conscience and what would it be about? It is freedom of choice. No one should feel guilty, embarrassed or any other negative because they choose not to donate.
I am interested in finding out why these feelings are spoken about because it is only by understanding this that BU can begin to find out what other schemes may work or why there are people who are 'put off' or dont want to contribute to the Trust.
Only by asking questions will BU make any new and worthwhile progess in fund raising and inclusion. IMHO.
northantsbee
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Did we?
Apologies for that! Perhaps its cos we all wanted to get to the pub too!
hobbsy
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Did we?
Apologies for that! Perhaps its cos we all wanted to get to the pub too!
I think there was three of you all in a line on Saturday! Doesn't bother me, I will quite happily put a note in on the way out - if I have it, bearing in mind I don't have an SO.
I don't see why people should feel imtimidated or feel guilty at at not putting something in.
Watford Bee
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The original idea of the bucket money going into the players fund was that some fans had expressed the view that they would be more inclined to give if they could see their money going into something that could help the performance on the pitch, such as a loan player for a month or two to cover injuries.
Maybe the BU board should analyse the level of takings pre and post the start of the players fund collection.
I also still think it is worth us looking at doing a bucket collection at a Chelski game (maybe a european game when we're not playing). I have been told that QPHAHAHA fans did that a couple of years ago when they were in administration and raised over £30,000 on a single collection (that might just have been Roman clearing out his loose change!).
West Wilts Bee
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Well I'm afraid I do not donate anymore, having been told that I don't support the club and to **** off down to Fulham, Just because my veiws were not what many people wanted to hear. I thought well b***ocks to it, what ****ed me off. We have about 600 people with S/O I'm one of them. I always used to donate £5 every home game via the bucket, then to have people criticise me that probably give sweet fa, blew the whistle for me.
I have nothing but admiration for the collectors. After all you don't have to contribute.
I have nothing but admiration for the collectors. After all you don't have to contribute.
keefor
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I have a SO but no longer (usually) put anything in the bucket because I was fed up with the club wasting money over the years and not apologising or taking responsibility for their cock-ups.
If the club can convince me that they are doing their very best to make the best use of the money they are gifted, that they are open about 'mistakes' and that they are capable of learning from events then I would gladly increase my SO and regularly contribute to the buckets.
I hope this comes about sooner rather than later.
If the club can convince me that they are doing their very best to make the best use of the money they are gifted, that they are open about 'mistakes' and that they are capable of learning from events then I would gladly increase my SO and regularly contribute to the buckets.
I hope this comes about sooner rather than later.
Downbeat Bee
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Supplying Bournemouth with names certainly has not made me any more likely to put money in buckets
northantsbee
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Your choice of course. I suspect although obviously i dont know, that the club were left with little choice.
taxi driver
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Well I suppose you could regard paying someone a wage as putting money in their personal pocket.
Personally, I don't see the players fund as "bailing Leroy out". I see it more as a small token towards additional funding that might possibly help improve the squad at a key point in the season when a loan might be needed.
All "IMHO"..............
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Edmundo
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I certainly don't think we should scrap the buckets if they are raising around fifteen grand per season.
Bundlesbee
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I agree they should not scrap the buckets if they are raising that kind of money. In fact they should aim at increasing the money collected. I think as with alot of things BU it is more about engaging with the supporters, ensuring supporters understand exactly where money is spent/invested, and hopefully this will lead to greater support, not just the buckets but S/O's, general fundraising events etc.
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The amounts are always published in the Bees United Forum by northantsbee for each game.
The following link will be updated after each game also....
http://www.beesunited.org.uk/fundraising/bucketeers.php