Carl Cort

Carl Cort

ubee40 said:
shouldbee - I think the jury's still out on that one, as we (and more importantly Scott!) probably hasn't seen enough of the different permutations in real match situations yet.

Personally, and I base this only on my own gut feeling, I would say Cort & Forster, but realise that we are unlikely to get 90 minutes out of both/either of them every week for 9 months.
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Cort will never be fully fit again, Newcastle gave up on him, we just have to use him sparingly and hope we get enough games out of him over a long season where his experience and ability makes a telling difference. To some extent I think we're carrying him but if the terms are right it maybe a worthwhile risk.
 

Carl Cort

Bigbee said:
About to resume training accoding to the Chronicle.It's going to take him a while to get to match fitness.Who would be AS favourite pairing when hes fit ? KOC and KOC ?
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:yawn: this is growing tiresome
 

Carl Cort

shouldbee said:
He would always be my first choice striker, there are plenty of options to partner him...Charlie, Forster, Alexander or maybe Simpson ??
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Cort and Forster could be quite a challenge for most defences at this level but only if we have enough pace in wide areas to stretch defences. Weston and Simpson should be able to achieve this.
 

Carl Cort

Wooburn Bee said:
Cort and Forster could be quite a challenge for most defences at this level but only if we have enough pace in wide areas to stretch defences. Weston and Simpson should be able to achieve this.
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.......................but would Cort and Forster be able to keep up with Weston and Simpson?...................................:)
 

Carl Cort

WisBee said:
.......................but would Cort and Forster be able to keep up with Weston and Simpson?...................................:)
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.........................golf buggy?????...................
 

Carl Cort

Maybe Cort and Foster could play off Zidane Zimmerframe?

Thats if KOC and KOC arent picked as first choice of course.
 
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Carl Cort

I think people forget the run-in last season, when Cort played many consecutive matches. We now have Cort and Alexander, as two target men; MacDonald and Forster, as the strike partner options; and possibly even Simpson and Hudson, as the young pretenders. I think that gives us a good set of options. Win the ball in midfield, get it out wide, cross into the box... that doesn't seem bad to me.
 

Carl Cort

jlove said:
I think people forget the run-in last season, when Cort played many consecutive matches. We now have Cort and Alexander, as two target men; MacDonald and Forster, as the strike partner options; and possibly even Simpson and Hudson, as the young pretenders. I think that gives us a good set of options. Win the ball in midfield, get it out wide, cross into the box... that doesn't seem bad to me.
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Is Alexander a target man? He only seemed a couple of inches taller than Charlie.
 

Carl Cort

jlove said:
I think people forget the run-in last season, when Cort played many consecutive matches. We now have Cort and Alexander, as two target men; MacDonald and Forster, as the strike partner options; and possibly even Simpson and Hudson, as the young pretenders. I think that gives us a good set of options. Win the ball in midfield, get it out wide, cross into the box... that doesn't seem bad to me.
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and when the oppo stop our wingers?.......We darent try to go through the middle :nono:
 

Carl Cort

If anyone has actually stopped crying enough to watch any football this season , they would realise that Alexander has to be first choice the way he is playing.
 

Carl Cort

nick logan said:
If anyone has actually stopped crying enough to watch any football this season , they would realise that Alexander has to be first choice the way he is playing.
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lol

a target man doesn't have to be 9ft 8, a target man is someone you can get the ball to who can hold it up and link the play, something that Alexander showed signs of against Cheltenham and Walsall, he also has the mobility to harrass the defenders when they have possession, and therefore it must be Alexander + 1 (Mac for me).
 

Carl Cort

jharvey85 said:
Is Alexander a target man? He only seemed a couple of inches taller than Charlie.
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I don't think he need to be a giant to be a target man. He wins headers but, more important, brings the ball down under control and can play in the onrushing hordes of central midfield players eager to get forward and score. (That's for you, Bigbee!)

Cort and Alexander are different types of player both both seem to have this attribute; they both keep the opposition defence on their toes.
 

Carl Cort

Alexander has shown that he definately has the power to control and hold the ball up, and Cort showed that he can do the same (and lay off a nice pass) last season. Those two will compete for that spot, and Mac and Forster will compete for the other starting place. Having Mac and Forster, or Cort and Alexander as the combination seems too similar... of course I could be wrong.

Alexander can't play his high-tempo game for the full 90, and looked tired towards the end of the 2nd half. Hopefully with Cort returning from injury we will have a like for like substitution to inject a set of fresh legs into the same role. Cort has shown that he can score from off the bench, so he is a good option to use. Against Walsall I would have liked to see him on for the last 20-30 minutes. Our strike force should become pretty potent this season (crosses fingers).
 

Carl Cort

Bigbee said:
Feck me ! Plus he's sitting down, what a talent!
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He just feels so relaxed in those plush seats, he couldn't do it in the away dugouts :sorted:
 

Carl Cort

jlove said:
I don't think he need to be a giant to be a target man. He wins headers but, more important, brings the ball down under control and can play in the onrushing hordes of central midfield players eager to get forward and score. (That's for you, Bigbee!) .
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Funnily enough, I thought that Alexander's heading was the weakest part of his game on Sat - not awful, but not outstanding either.

Having said that, I thought he played really well for 65 minutes and liked the look of him. Thought his control and lay offs were much better, and I also liked his movement - you could really see that he was always thinking, and some of the interplay with CM was really good.
 

Carl Cort

I doubt of any of the famous four up front want to rely on quick ball to the wings and crosses coming in. Forster and Mac want ball to feet to do their wriggling, Forster also likes a through ball, Cort wants it to feet and to lay off and Alexander does his best work outside the box.
Honestly, it's not a moan just an observation that maybe our forwards aren't ideal for our set up.

In Scott We Love.
 

Carl Cort

What is the story regarding Cort and his fitness?

Its all very well saying we have 4 strikers, but every time CC is brought up the general concensus is that he is not match fit or capable of a full 90 minutes. I can't help but feel it may have been a mistake offering him a contract irrespective of how good he can be on his day - it's like our own Ledley King.
 

Carl Cort

jonny c said:
What is the story regarding Cort and his fitness?

Its all very well saying we have 4 strikers, but every time CC is brought up the general concensus is that he is not match fit or capable of a full 90 minutes. I can't help but feel it may have been a mistake offering him a contract irrespective of how good he can be on his day - it's like our own Ledley King.
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Yeah i agree its becoming a bit like Owusu's second spell just picking up a wage and not giving anything in return.
 

Carl Cort

detours said:
Alexander has shown that he definately has the power to control and hold the ball up, and Cort showed that he can do the same (and lay off a nice pass) last season. Those two will compete for that spot, and Mac and Forster will compete for the other starting place. Having Mac and Forster, or Cort and Alexander as the combination seems too similar... of course I could be wrong.

Alexander can't play his high-tempo game for the full 90, and looked tired towards the end of the 2nd half. Hopefully with Cort returning from injury we will have a like for like substitution to inject a set of fresh legs into the same role. Cort has shown that he can score from off the bench, so he is a good option to use. Against Walsall I would have liked to see him on for the last 20-30 minutes. Our strike force should become pretty potent this season (crosses fingers).
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Don't you mean impotent ?;)
 

Carl Cort

I would bin Cort off now.....he is taking up a place in the squad. Undoubted talent, and one of the few joys of watching Bees late on last season. But a guy with his injury record should be knocking about for a nothing League 2 team who dont have any ambition.
 

Carl Cort

maddogging said:
I would bin Cort off now.....he is taking up a place in the squad. Undoubted talent, and one of the few joys of watching Bees late on last season. But a guy with his injury record should be knocking about for a nothing League 2 team who dont have any ambition.
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you offering to pay him off maddog? or do you expect mb to do it?
 

Carl Cort

Apparently declared Bankrupt in court yesterday, all bank and credit card accounts frozen :confused:
 

Carl Cort

Bill Benn said:
l happen to think he is real quality when fully fit.
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He has not been fully fit for 5 years. I was stunned when we offered him another year as I know he will not play enough to make an impact over a full season.

We could sign Johnathan Woodgate on a pay as you play and he could spend a season next to me in D block.
 

Carl Cort

Is Cort actually injured atm? I happen to agree that he looks very composed on the ball at our level, but the fitness thing is a real issue.
 

Carl Cort

Simon W said:
Apparently declared Bankrupt in court yesterday, all bank and credit card accounts frozen :confused:
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No shame in that these days. I blame the banks for being to free and easy with there lending.
 

Carl Cort

Simon W said:
Apparently declared Bankrupt in court yesterday, all bank and credit card accounts frozen :confused:
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better get the buckets out again tomorrow :idea:
 

Carl Cort

If he is on a pay as you play deal he had better get fit quick then!
 

Carl Cort

from the Guardian: "Bad day in court for people called Carl part 2: Former Newcastle and Wolves striker Carl Cort has been declared bankrupt. A source told the Sun: "It's hard to understand how Carl could wind up bankrupt."
 

Carl Cort

A source told the Sun: "It's hard to understand how Carl could wind up bankrupt."

Probably something to do with spending all his money........blimey people are simple!!
 

Carl Cort

This is all the incentive he needs to start earning his goal bonus!
 

Carl Cort

McBee said:
This is all the incentive he needs to start earning his goal bonus!
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Don't know much about it - but presumably if he gets a bonus, he doesn't get to keep it, as it goes towards repaying his creditors. Not certain how he's going to be in any frame of mind to play football in the short-term.....but come on Carl, prove me wrong and get a hatrick tomorrow!
 

Carl Cort

Brentford 4 Life said:
Yeah i agree its becoming a bit like Owusu's second spell just picking up a wage and not giving anything in return.
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I thought Owusu got injured playing for Ghana, not his fault is it? also didn't we wrongly diagnose his injury:rolleyes:lol
 

Carl Cort

JumboJet said:
Don't know much about it - but presumably if he gets a bonus, he doesn't get to keep it, as it goes towards repaying his creditors. Not certain how he's going to be in any frame of mind to play football in the short-term.....but come on Carl, prove me wrong and get a hatrick tomorrow!
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You are so right. The official reciever can be your best friend or your worst enemy. He will know about Carl's earnings believe me.
 

Carl Cort

The sooner he starts to earn some appearance money the better it will be for him and us.
 

Carl Cort

Shame he's always injured, would be great to see alll the oppo fans waving wads of money at him as he warms up on the touchline
 

Carl Cort

Not his fault he is always injured & has undoubted class when he is fit but he very rarely is so why sign him!?
 

Carl Cort

bin him off. Taking up a squad place.
 

Carl Cort

Beefletch said:
Not his fault he is always injured & has undoubted class when he is fit but he very rarely is so why sign him!?
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is he really injured? he plays 10 minutes at Orient and then is not seen again, something isn't right with this fella. Sadly. He has it, but just cannot be bothered or is fed up with AS too, yet another one.............maybe??
 

Carl Cort

wanderer paul said:
is he really injured? he plays 10 minutes at Orient and then is not seen again, something isn't right with this fella. Sadly. He has it, but just cannot be bothered or is fed up with AS too, yet another one.............maybe??
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I don't think you're right in suggesting he can't be bothered. His attitude last season seemed very good considering he's played at a much higher level. The sad fact is that he's simply very injury prone; if he wasn't he'd certainly still be at a better club.
 

Carl Cort

Bangor Bee said:
I don't think you're right in suggesting he can't be bothered. His attitude last season seemed very good considering he's played at a much higher level. The sad fact is that he's simply very injury prone; if he wasn't he'd certainly still be at a better club.
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Cort upped his game when the contracts were running out..................... :wave:
 
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