Outgoing Rumours David Raya

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David Raya

If we get £25m for Raya then that is about 20% of our turnover.

Our TV income (where most of our income will come from) is estimated to be £111m last year. Compare that to Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs who probably got in the region of £140. That's a difference of £29m. So £29m before those other clubs' other income streams which will also dwarf ours.

If we are to compete with clubs for, say, European Football from time to time, then we need to cash-in on players just has we did in the Championship.

And it didn't workout too badly for us in the end there.
 

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Banana said:
If we get £25m for Raya then that is about 20% of our turnover.

Our TV income (where most of our income will come from) is estimated to be £111m last year. Compare that to Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs who probably got in the region of £140. That's a difference of £29m. So £29m before those other clubs' other income streams which will also dwarf ours.

If we are to compete with clubs for, say, European Football from time to time, then we need to cash-in on players just has we did in the Championship.

And it didn't workout too badly for us in the end there.
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Is £25m realistic without a contract renewal though?
 

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Bumbling fool said:
Is £25m realistic without a contract renewal though?
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I think that would be top end, but PG has a great track record of selling well, so let's see.

The way he is playing is certainly keeping his value high!
 

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Bumbling fool said:
Is £25m realistic without a contract renewal though?
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I think it's helpful that Spurs and Man Utd (and potentially Chelsea) will all be in the market for a new 1st choice keeper in the Summer. Whether that pushes it up to 25m, who knows.

As an example, Pope cost 10m with a year left on his contract last Summer. Raya is better and younger, but I think it's an indicator. My guess would be 15-20m.
 

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jlove said:
If there's a year left and more than one rich club are wanting him, why not?
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Pope went for £10m with a year left and must have had more than one club interested. Leno went for £8m also in his final year but having dropped to sub keeper. But if there are more than one top 4-6 club interested Raya could go for more. £10m would still show a decent profit if we’re comfortable that Strakosha is a suitable replacement.

If we finish top 6 another possibility is that Raya reconsiders the lifetime offer we’ve made and we could probably get £5-10m for Strakosha given his experience and contract length!
 

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jlove said:
If there's a year left and more than one rich club are wanting him, why not?
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Just not seeing any precedent, it'd put him in the top 10 or 15 gk transfers of all time and from my admittedly lazy googlings they mostly seem to have been younger and or with more time in their contracts. I'd be pleased to be contradicted though
 

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Maybe just copying and pasting what that Luca chap posted and guessing on Man Utd "talking" to him but who knows....
 

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Always amuses me when they pick a picture of a player looking happy / sad to suit the article. Wouldn't it be ironic if that picture was him celebrating a goal against Man U or Spurs.
 

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The Guardians poll 100 of the Worlds Best Footballers ( Male) started today. Don't hold out much hope for Bees in there and probably better to still be a little bit below the radar. Llorris a new entry at 76, go figure.
 

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BFC1997 said:
With his agent in Spain - is it just because there’s no game he’s been allowed to visit home? Or more to it?
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Probably just easier for him to be around his agent if they're talking to clubs.
 

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BFC1997 said:
With his agent in Spain - is it just because there’s no game he’s been allowed to visit home? Or more to it?
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Of course there could be more to it, but a man travelling to his home country when he's got a few days off shouldn't really be a cause for speculation!
 

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Leedsbee said:
The Guardians poll 100 of the Worlds Best Footballers ( Male) started today. Don't hold out much hope for Bees in there and probably better to still be a little bit below the radar. Llorris a new entry at 76, go figure.
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Seems like Lloris was included more for his career achievements than actually being one of the best players in the world right now. Very odd. Ronaldo is number 51 which itself also seems strange, I mean he couldn't even get into Portugal's team by the end of the WC.
 

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Rob-BEE said:
Of course there could be more to it, but a man travelling to his home country when he's got a few days off shouldn't really be a cause for speculation!
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It’s more that he’s with his agent, who has captioned the photo “something’s cooking!”
 

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BFC1997 said:
It’s more that he’s with his agent, who has captioned the photo “something’s cooking!”
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Is this unexpected? He's reported to have turned down our offer, other clubs are in for in and I suspect his agent may be speaking with them to secure a deal.

When that deal happens, we don't know, but this just feels part of the process of him leaving.
 

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I would be surprised if any Spanish club outside the top 3 could afford him. Maybe Athletico Madrid I’d they lose their current keeper.
 

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AB said:
Pope went for £10m with a year left and must have had more than one club interested. Leno went for £8m also in his final year but having dropped to sub keeper. But if there are more than one top 4-6 club interested Raya could go for more. £10m would still show a decent profit if we’re comfortable that Strakosha is a suitable replacement.

If we finish top 6 another possibility is that Raya reconsiders the lifetime offer we’ve made and we could probably get £5-10m for Strakosha given his experience and contract length!
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You are not a poster whom one will question lightly so although surprised at such a low estimate I will accept it. David Raya is such an important part of our team that we have to consider just how many points and wins his being in goal give us. Finishing very high in the table brings in extra money plus the possibility of a Euro spot. So another season and a half of possible extra revenue must surely be taken into consideration when deciding to permit a transfer. If the club are not to receive adequate compensation then it begs the question that the astute way of proceeding would be to allow DR to run his contract down. It will be interesting to see our decision making, and to see just how much the fee is, unless the club takes the other route.
 

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TadB said:
You are not a poster whom one will question lightly so although surprised at such a low estimate I will accept it. David Raya is such an important part of our team that we have to consider just how many points and wins his being in goal give us. Finishing very high in the table brings in extra money plus the possibility of a Euro spot. So another season and a half of possible extra revenue must surely be taken into consideration when deciding to permit a transfer. If the club are not to receive adequate compensation then it begs the question that the astute way of proceeding would be to allow DR to run his contract down. It will be interesting to see our decision making, and to see just how much the fee is, unless the club takes the other route.
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Thanks- Just guessing really as I don’t know the club’s strategy here. I’d expect they would in this window ask for big money or no move. In the summer if he’s not going to re-sign and the club has confidence they’ve got a good replacement in Strakosha or some other target they’re unlikely I think to hold DR to seeing out his deal. I was surprised at how little Pope as a similar calibre keeper went for as Burnley got good money for McNeil (!) and Cornet so aren’t mugs.
 

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AB said:
Thanks- Just guessing really as I don’t know the club’s strategy here. I’d expect they would in this window ask for big money or no move. In the summer if he’s not going to re-sign and the club has confidence they’ve got a good replacement in Strakosha or some other target they’re unlikely I think to hold DR to seeing out his deal. I was surprised at how little Pope as a similar calibre keeper went for as Burnley got good money for McNeil (!) and Cornet so aren’t mugs.
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For all we know Pope might have had a relegation release clause in his contract, which are typically quite low.
 

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Rob-BEE said:
I think it's helpful that Spurs and Man Utd (and potentially Chelsea) will all be in the market for a new 1st choice keeper in the Summer. Whether that pushes it up to 25m, who knows.

As an example, Pope cost 10m with a year left on his contract last Summer. Raya is better and younger, but I think it's an indicator. My guess would be 15-20m.
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15m would be a steal
 

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Financially now is probably the best time to sell, he will be gone in the summer anyway, we would need to sign another
keeper and Cox go out on loan to gain league experience.
 

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WARFIELD BEE said:
Financially now is probably the best time to sell, he will be gone in the summer anyway, we would need to sign another
keeper and Cox go out on loan to gain league experience.
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But is it the best time to sell? What would be the price premium of selling him in this window as opposed to the summer? Balance that against how important he is to how we play currently bearing in mind each place higher in the Premier League is worth over £3M.
 

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WARFIELD BEE said:
Financially now is probably the best time to sell, he will be gone in the summer anyway, we would need to sign another
keeper and Cox go out on loan to gain league experience.
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I would rather him go in the summer lol at how we struggled without him last season
 

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brentford born & bred said:
But is it the best time to sell? What would be the price premium of selling him in this window as opposed to the summer? Balance that against how important he is to how we play currently bearing in mind each place higher in the Premier League is worth over £3M.
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If there are clubs desperately in need of a top 'keeper in order to win something (or avoid relegation) in the current season then they will pay a premium in the January window. January or summer, if there's demand and competition then the price and terms can be managed rather like an auction.
 

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jlove said:
If there are clubs desperately in need of a top 'keeper in order to win something (or avoid relegation) in the current season then they will pay a premium in the January window. January or summer, if there's demand and competition then the price and terms can be managed rather like an auction.
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As it has always been in the transfer market. As PG has stated in the recent past, we don't need to sell any player unless a ridiculous offer is received. The obvious caveat to that is if a player if determined to move and stinking the place out. Very relaxed as to when we sell Raya since I am sure we several contingency plans in place at better value. One may already be in the squad.
 

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brentford born & bred said:
As it has always been in the transfer market. As PG has stated in the recent past, we don't need to sell any player unless a ridiculous offer is received. The obvious caveat to that is if a player if determined to move and stinking the place out. Very relaxed as to when we sell Raya since I am sure we several contingency plans in place at better value. One may already be in the squad.
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I don’t think there’s any evidence of him stinking the place out with his attitude. He’s playing very well and looks very happy when we do well. If there’s a substantial offer afoot now I think the timing is OK as we have ten days to our next game and Strakosha will have had half a season of learning exactly what we need from our keeper. Even the WH game is good for having reminded him that we set up to not mind shots from distance so he needs to be ready for them.
 

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AB said:
I don’t think there’s any evidence of him stinking the place out with his attitude. He’s playing very well and looks very happy when we do well. If there’s a substantial offer afoot now I think the timing is OK as we have ten days to our next game and Strakosha will have had half a season of learning exactly what we need from our keeper. Even the WH game is good for having reminded him that we set up to not mind shots from distance so he needs to be ready for them.
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Sorry no suggestion that Raya's attitude has been nothing but exemplary, it was a generalisation when making reference to we are under no pressure to sell any player unless a ridiculous high bid made other than an unhappy player forcing a move.
 
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If the right offer comes in now let’s get it done. It would be good to start next season with a goalkeeper who is already bedded in with the team, the defence and the demands of the PL
 

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Just so I know, when is it scheduled that we satrt posting nasty things about him for turning down the contract, and saying things like "I never rated him that much anyway"?
 
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