Fabrice Muamba

[horshambees]

Football fans make me laugh at times, such OTT reaction to a fella most don't know.

Fighting for his life as we speak BC.

I did not know those Belgian children that died on the coach this past week either,but it doesnt stop me thinking it was a tragic accident as I think Fabrice is
a tragic occurence.Thinking of this fella and his young family who are at his bedside.

 

[jlove]

BC, time for meditation:

No man is an island entire of itself;
every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less,
as well as if a promontory were,
as well as a manor of thy friends or of thine own were;
any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And, therefore, never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
it tolls for thee.

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

Football fans make me laugh at times, such OTT reaction to a fella most don't know.

This isn't the thread for this sort of debate. Thanks.

 

[Brickie Chap]

I wish no ill on the fella but my thoughts go out to a mates 18 year old son, who suddenly lost his sight two weeks ago. Turns out he has a brain tumour, and currently the medics can't do anything for him.

 

[gumboselfish]

Would be nice to see such goodwill and press coverage extended to our troops suffering, for example, in the various wars we seem to be fighting but then again, they don't qualify as being considered 'famous'.

I am sick to death of all the whining about bloody troops suffering?
This cannot be in any way related to this terrible incident, muamba was a footballer, he chose to be a footballer , cause he is good at it ,and he can make a living from it, at worst he could expect a broken leg or two in his career, soldiers on the otherhand choose to join the army, they know exactly what they are getting themselves into, why should we all be made to feel guilty when they get killed in action? And having to read crap on Facebook about , soldiers should earn premiership wages, and "they are the real heroes"? No they ain't ! They are stupid enough to put themselves in scenarios to get killed , that's the career path they have taken, in this country we do not force people to join the army? Am I right or what? Or am I missing something? Footballers deserve the wages they get, as they are the ones who entertain us every weekeknd. I am sorry if no one agrees but , that's the way I see it, I know soldiers do a good job and they are here to protect us, but they are at war for all the wrong reasons, and they know what becoming a soldier entails. What has happened with muamba is tragic, and let's prey he survives.

 

[Boscombe Bee]

Football fans make me laugh at times, such OTT reaction to a fella most don't know.

Watching the news last night, a muslim Bolton fan outside the Reebok summed it up. Fabrice is a part of the Bolton family and part of the football family, thats why mine and many others thoughts are with him and his family, and wishing him back to full health. I also felt something similar when Adam Stansfield and Richard Butcher passed on. Maybe someone else can explain it better than me.

Its certainly no laughing matter as you put it.

 

[RitchBee]

Hope he makes it though

 

[moribee]

Watching the news last night, a muslim Bolton fan outside the Reebok summed it up. Fabrice is a part of the Bolton family and part of the football family, thats why mine and many others thoughts are with him and his family, and wishing him back to full health. I also felt something similar when Adam Stansfield and Richard Butcher passed on. Maybe someone else can explain it better than me.

Its certainly no laughing matter as you put it.

Because we are bought up to footy and when something like this happens past of our life of forever becomes realisation of mortality

 

[motherwell bee]

Because we are bought up to footy and when something like this happens past of our life of forever becomes realisation of mortality

 

[hanworthbee]

wonder what state his brain will be if he makes it as normally after 3 minutes your braindead

 

[ChinaBee]

wonder what state his brain will be if he makes it as normally after 3 minutes your braindead

Yes I have concerns as it now has been reported his heart stopped for nearly 2 hours, one of its main function is to provide oxygen to the brain. If he pulls through then at least his little boy still has a father, thats the hope.

 

[ChinaBee]

Watching the news last night, a muslim Bolton fan outside the Reebok summed it up. Fabrice is a part of the Bolton family and part of the football family, thats why mine and many others thoughts are with him and his family, and wishing him back to full health. I also felt something similar when Adam Stansfield and Richard Butcher passed on. Maybe someone else can explain it better than me.

Its certainly no laughing matter as you put it.

The only thing is if he was a polo player or a swimmer I would feel the same distress on hearing such tragic news, you don't need to be a football fan to feel sorry for him and the family

 

[moribee]

The only thing is if he was a polo player or a swimmer I would feel the same distress on hearing such tragic news, you don't need to be a football fan to feel sorry for him and the family

That is true

 

[Sheerwater Bee]

Interesting read.

http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/2012/03/dear-scum-an-open-letter-to-the-sun/

 

[moribee]

It is an awful newspaper,has been from day one. Obviously no respect

 

[Sheerwater Bee]

It is an awful newspaper,has been from day one. Obviously no respect

With that we are in full agreement...........

 

[Bigbee]

apparently he's showing slight signs of improvement .

 

[ChinaBee]

apparently he's showing slight signs of improvement .

Rumours and only that is he is now talking in both French and English, but these are the same twitter sources (Sky and the Mirror) who reported on Saturday that he was stable then we heard the hospital and club say he was in a critical condition.

 

[wayfarer172]

apparently he's showing slight signs of improvement .

Absolutely wonderful news.Come on young fella.

 

[mhead bee]

Terrible news, FA need to promote this risk more. CRY which our club were associated with when AS was here, needs to be given more support to promote it.

The problem is that some of the causes are undetectable. I think pro footballers do get checked regularly for cardiomyopathy (sp?) but its impossible to be 100% sure that everyone hasn't got a defect.
Awful thing, hope he pulls though

 

[mhead bee]

Would be nice to see such goodwill and press coverage extended to our troops suffering, for example, in the various wars we seem to be fighting but then again, they don't qualify as being considered 'famous'.

Absolute codswallop. Every time one of our troops dies it is all over the press and rightly so. Every time i walk through a train station, airport or high street i am confronted by someone raising cash for help a hero, something i am a staunch supporter of.
What the hell this has got to do with a young man having his life threatening illness played out on live tv in front of the world is beyond me. If the war was shown live and people witness the butchery then you may find people react with more instant emotion.

 

[stedders]

Seems that he is breathing unaided, and has recognised members of his family.

 

[TW3Bee]

Sounds like some good news, that he is talking and showing signs of movement.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Absolute codswallop. Every time one of our troops dies it is all over the press and rightly so. Every time i walk through a train station, airport or high street i am confronted by someone raising cash for help a hero, something i am a staunch supporter of.
What the hell this has got to do with a young man having his life threatening illness played out on live tv in front of the world is beyond me. If the war was shown live and people witness the butchery then you may find people react with more instant emotion.

A footballer most wouldnt know from Adam has taken over the news channels. I merely quoted war as an examble, it could quite easily have been any other story, but hey ho, most seem happy with our celebrity driven news.

Pleased to hear the fella appears to be pulling through. Hats off to the emergency services.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

Blimey that is suprisingly good news he is recognising people & speaking. I feared the worst when i read his heart had stopped for so long as a few minutes often leads to brain damage. Great news. Get well soon.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Watching the news last night, a muslim Bolton fan outside the Reebok summed it up. Fabrice is a part of the Bolton family and part of the football family, thats why mine and many others thoughts are with him and his family, and wishing him back to full health. I also felt something similar when Adam Stansfield and Richard Butcher passed on. Maybe someone else can explain it better than me.

Its certainly no laughing matter as you put it.

The OTT response that football fans do is laughable. There are more important things to life. Oh well, no doubt Liverpool have put in the application for their minutes silence.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

A footballer most wouldnt know from Adam has taken over the news channels. I merely quoted war as an examble, it could quite easily have been any other story, but hey ho, most seem happy with our celebrity driven news.

Pleased to hear the fella appears to be pulling through. Hats off to the emergency services.

Fascinates me also. The game was live on terrestrial tele wasn't it? Maybe that has added to the publics outpouring of niceness. #england(under21)srose

 

[Boscombe Bee]

The OTT response that football fans do is laughable. There are more important things to life. Oh well, no doubt Liverpool have put in the application for their minutes silence.

So you find it all funny? Idiot! Your probably the sort of person who shouts out something in a minute's silence

 

[oldgreenfordian]

To previous posters:-

It really is OK to be concerned about the welfare of people you don't know, it's not about fashionability.
It doesn't make your cock smaller or diminish you as a person to care about others, particularly people connected to football.
This is a football forum, so the young man's welfare is pertinent.
Disappointed in you, ISB.

 

[Brickie Chap]

So you find it all funny? Idiot! Your probably the sort of person who shouts out something in a minute's silence

Are you thick? I find the OTT nature of football fans funny.

Please let us know when you're holding your minutes silence though, just in case the kettle boils.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

To previous posters:-

It really is OK to be concerned about the welfare of people you don't know, it's not about fashionability.
It doesn't make your cock smaller or diminish you as a person to care about others, particularly people connected to football.
This is a football forum, so the young man's welfare is pertinent.
Disappointed in you, ISB.

Same as everyone I really hope FM makes a full recovery of course as I said initially. probably not appropriate to discuss public grief in general on this thread you're right I am wrong yes.sorry.

 

[Simon T]

Rumours and only that is he is now talking in both French and English, but these are the same twitter sources (Sky and the Mirror) who reported on Saturday that he was stable then we heard the hospital and club say he was in a critical condition.

I think the source of the comment about him speaking French & English was Michael Essien who went to visit him, this is obviously good news as it indicates his brain is functioning as it was before. If you read up on him you realise that even if this brings an end to his football career he's both intelligent enough and driven enough to be successful at whatever he chooses to do afterwards.

 

[nocoat]

Fascinates me also. The game was live on terrestrial tele wasn't it? Maybe that has added to the publics outpouring of niceness. #england(under21)srose

No. It was on ESPN

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Agree, a local club where our very own Sir Les coaches at hold a tournament (Sandhurst) every year in aid of this chairty as they lost a young player to heart failure. My loss (brother) was a little older at 39 but even so more tests should be made available for everyone. I get tested thoroughly every 5 years but this should be made available for many more, particularly those who appear fit and are very active. I thought it was going to be made mandatory for prefessional footballers!

Sorry me old China - been away this weekend. Firstly, it's great that the news regarding Muamba is encouraging this morning.

Sandhurst Town Boys and Girls Football Club do indeed run an annual tournament in memory of a young lad, Lewis Marsh, who died playing tennis some years ago in such terrible circumstances. As well as raising valuable funds, CRY attend and offer free screening to anyone over 14 which is fantastic. I had hoped that we could encourage Andy Scott to attend one year but it never came off (not through his fault I should add).

Thank you for mentioning it - details of a previous event can be found on the CRY website here.

 

[hanworthbee]

its good to see he is improving but i find the clapping, get well soon tshirts, laying down of shirts outside the Reebok and scarves being laid all rather distasteful and ott as incase people have forgotten he isnt actually dead

 

[Balders Bee]

its good to see he is improving but i find the clapping, get well soon tshirts, laying down of shirts outside the Reebok and scarves being laid all rather distasteful and ott as incase people have forgotten he isnt actually dead

Yes valid point, if they want to do something constructive a get well card and a donation to an appropriate charity would seem a better option.

 

[Paul O'Brien]

I was upset at Muamba, but I wonder if there will be the same public expression of sorrow at Luke Chapman.

 

[Stanley]

its good to see he is improving but i find the clapping, get well soon tshirts, laying down of shirts outside the Reebok and scarves being laid all rather distasteful and ott as incase people have forgotten he isnt actually dead

I agree I thougt it was most odd and premature especialy the clapping ( which I don't like anyway) although to be fair I think most people thought he wouldn't pull through like he has.

 

[kempy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/mobile/football/17460781

 

[wanderer paul]

Quite incredible. He has, so far, made an amazing recovery considering the situation he was in. Good luck to the kid.

Also don't understand this flower/shirt/scarf laying at the Reebok. Fair enough wish the fella all the best via twitter/websites etc. but not as they have done at the stadium!

 

[Beat Poet]

His fitness has no doubt helped with his recovery!

 

[horshambees]

Heart stops for 78 minutes? 15 shots to the heart? and he is doing extremely well under the circumstances he was in.Still in intensive care and doing better than anyone expected.Still a long way to go,but he is pulling through.Fantastic news for his family and anyone who felt for the lad.Remarkable story.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

The two doctor's testimonies are extraordinary. They should be getting a bloody hour's applause at every Premiership game on Saturday and every player who wore a T-shirt should donate a week's wages to CRY or the British Heart Foundation so that people like the poor lad in Worcestershire can stand a similar chance in future.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Like this http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/mar/21/fabrice-muamba-self-congratulation

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Another well written piece.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-debt-to-NHS-after-Fabrice-Muamba-ordeal.html

 

[moribee]

Another well written piece.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-debt-to-NHS-after-Fabrice-Muamba-ordeal.html

Excellent article. Fact of life that we are all easily influenced by what the media throw at us. I spend all my life questioning it,one side reporting and politicians telling us what we should feel guilty about,but it doesn't mean I am immune from it myself. It makes me angry though though the sympathy for Muamba should not be devalued. Media control us. All the outrage about Toulouse but hundreds of children and women killed by us and US are easily forgotten. Its life and my views make me unpopular but my heart still goes to the family of the young lad playing rugby.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I agree moribee and am grateful to those journalists who buck the trend.

 

[RoyBee]

its good to see he is improving but i find the clapping, get well soon tshirts, laying down of shirts outside the Reebok and scarves being laid all rather distasteful and ott as incase people have forgotten he isnt actually dead

Agree. I switched on Sky Sports News and saw all the flowers etc. outside the Reebok and thought the worst. Astonishing.

Excellent news that he seems to be recoveing so well.

 

[vcmazz]

The two doctor's testimonies are extraordinary. They should be getting a bloody hour's applause at every Premiership game on Saturday and every player who wore a T-shirt should donate a week's wages to CRY or the British Heart Foundation so that people like the poor lad in Worcestershire can stand a similar chance in future.

Post of the year .

 

[vcmazz]

I am sick to death of all the whining about bloody troops suffering?
This cannot be in any way related to this terrible incident, muamba was a footballer, he chose to be a footballer , cause he is good at it ,and he can make a living from it, at worst he could expect a broken leg or two in his career, soldiers on the otherhand choose to join the army, they know exactly what they are getting themselves into, why should we all be made to feel guilty when they get killed in action? And having to read crap on Facebook about , soldiers should earn premiership wages, and "they are the real heroes"? No they ain't ! They are stupid enough to put themselves in scenarios to get killed , that's the career path they have taken, in this country we do not force people to join the army? Am I right or what? Or am I missing something? Footballers deserve the wages they get, as they are the ones who entertain us every weekeknd. I am sorry if no one agrees but , that's the way I see it, I know soldiers do a good job and they are here to protect us, but they are at war for all the wrong reasons, and they know what becoming a soldier entails. What has happened with muamba is tragic, and let's prey he survives.

Agree with you 95%. I have worked with 'The Troops' in the past and can only speak as I find. And I find that they are (almost) without exception, thicko bully boys who are unemployable elsewhere. I certainly wouldn't wish harm on any of them but equally I don't have any time for them and very little sympathy for the reasons you've stated and I've added to.

You lose 5% for stating that footballers deserve the wages they get. They don't and they've f****d the game .

As for Fabrice? My thoughts have rarely been elsewhere these past few days. Keep fighting fella .