Fans Forum

[BIAS]

BIAS are pleased to announce that recently postponed fans forum will now take place on Thursday 13th October.

Uwe Rösler will be in attendance but the full panel of the top table is still to be confirmed.

For more information, updates and important information of how to e-mail BIAS inoreder to reserve your places, please visit: www.bias.org.uk

 

[SmiffyBee]

Which players will be there, and will there be an artist in residence ?

 

[Paul USA]

Will Nurse be Pole Dancing ??

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

Which players will be there, and will there be an artist in residence ?

Chopper Harris will be doing lap dances.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Chopper Harris will be doing lap dances.

The one in Tight Fit? I'm there ......

 

[SmiffyBee]

Sam Saunders and Leon Legge will be attending.

Who else is going from GPG world ? :moo:

I have a few questions for Uwe - some of them relatively serious.

 

[mhead bee]

will there be an artist in residence ?

I expect there will be a few in the bar.

 

[SmiffyBee]

I think I am first one back.
A bit of a timid affair, although I do admit I arrived half way through :moo:

Some very dull questions, but some nuggets too.

We are on the hunt for a new training ground.
Any deal with Barratts is looking bleak, though Lionel Road is still, by far and away the best option and we are still negociating.
Uwe not looking to boost backroom team any longer after a deal for someone in Norway fell through.
Forrester and Legge still a few weeks away from a return, Bean back and in contention for Saturday.

Benham told Rosler he wanted attractive football and Rosler still aiming for a top 10 finish, which was always his aim.

New Commercial Man - Mr Devlin came across well. Some interesting and open answers.

 

[rebus]

Quick point, Mark is the General Manager, not Commercial Manager.

 

[SmiffyBee]

sorry David Bailey !

 

[hobbsy]

I asked the Assistant Manager question, afterwards Peter Farrell came over and thanked me and said he reckons I just got him promoted! Had a good chat with Peter who is a lovely guy and clearly very experienced, told us a few tales from his playing days.

Uwe then came over and chatted with us for a good 15-20 minutes, was talking about formations and players. We will be playing 4-4-2 against S****horpe. He rates Harry Forrester very highly and said we will sell him one day for £1m. Was very complimentary towards KOC, Reeves and Bean.

I asked him about the Ole Gunnar Solskjaer link and he said yes it was true that he wouldn't have been interviewed without his recommendation, but that just gave him the opportunity to demonstrate his abilities. He spoke about players who are on silly salaries in League 1 such as 10-20k per week. An example was he identified a player to sign, but they were on 7k and it wasn't even worth going into negotiations.

He was happy with the budget arrangements and wouldn't want to keep going cap in hand to MB asking for money as he said one day MB will say no and get annoyed and pull out.

John Bostock was mentioned and Uwe said he saw him in the Development Game against Spurs and he "wasn't his type of fish", he was lazy and didn't look like he cared.

All in all a good night and was great to be able to talk to Uwe like another fan in the pub.

 

[marvelous007]

I actually thought Mr Devlin was very,very poor, given his quaility of answers
on a number of questions. Mr Roswler, very open but also poor performance, given that he sees Brentford as a top ten league one club, which is broadly where we finished in the last two seasons.

 

[hobbsy]

I actually thought Mr Devlin was very,very poor, given his quaility of answers
on a number of questions. Mr Roswler, very open but also poor performance, given that he sees Brentford as a top ten league one club, which is broadly where we finished in the last two seasons.

Uwe was just playing it safe, Pete Farrell said to me he reckons top six.

 

[abee]

I actually thought Mr Devlin was very,very poor, given his quaility of answers
on a number of questions. Mr Roswler, very open but also poor performance, given that he sees Brentford as a top ten league one club, which is broadly where we finished in the last two seasons.

I simply don't see how on earth Uwe Rosler's 'performance' last night could be rated by any supporter as 'poor'. We are in a transitional season where the style of football is being changed with a solid core of players who were brought in by former management teams and who are having to adapt to the new systems. The emphasis is on trying to gather more points than last season and narrow the gap between us and the top six clubs and as Uwe said if as he hopes we have a strong finish/second half to the season we'll see where that takes us. Im not sure if you asked any of the questions and were unhappy with the responses that you received or whether you just thought the performances were poor but didn't run the panel down yourself and were just sitting silent and rating MD and UR as 'very, very poor' and 'poor' . Given that it was emphasised both last night at the Fans Forum and previously by myself on here that the playing budget is exactly the same as that for season 2010-11 then I'm not sure what you were expecting. Some decent questions would have been on the lines does Uwe believe that given his two year contract with a one year option (confirmed by him last night so I'm not giving anything away) does he believe that during his tenure he can get us into the Championship on the present playing budget, if not have his feelings been made to the board, if so why not and if they have what is the board doing about it. There were two directors in the body of the audience (myself and Mark Chapman) and if you rated the performance of Uwe and Mark Devlin as 'poor' and 'very, very poor' respectively then may I simply comment that the ability of Bees supporters to actually dig out information and nail down what is going on ranks somewhere alongside your assessment of Mark Devlin's performance. What an opportunity was missed by yourself and others to actually understand what was going on but I am not pitching up at Fans Forums to tell you and others what questions I would be asking if I were outside the tent pissing in. For what it's worth I thought that MD was very, very good as was Uwe but then it takes all sorts.

 

[hobbsy]

For what it's worth I thought that MD was very, very good as was Uwe but then it takes all sorts.

I thought they both answered whatever was asked at them very well. MD seems to have a lot of knowledge/experience of the behind the scenes goings on in Football.

UR was very honest, for example when talking about the 1+1 year contract, he said he would honour that contract and wouldn't jump ship or apply for other jobs. He stated that when he was in Norway he was offered a job in the Bundesliga but turned it down as he had just signed a new contract. I have woken up this morning more convinced we have the right man in post and the future is bright.

 

[Salford Bee]

Unsurprisingly I agree with abee.

To me the most important thing said was by Brian Burgess re Lionel Road.

 

[abee]

I thought they both answered whatever was asked at them very well. MD seems to have a lot of knowledge/experience of the behind the scenes goings on in Football.

UR was very honest, for example when talking about the 1+1 year contract, he said he would honour that contract ............

Just to be clear he has a two year contract with a one year option by agreement.

 

[hobbsy]

Unsurprisingly I agree with abee.

To me the most important thing said was by Brian Burgess re Lionel Road.

:yes: If I can just add to smiffybee's summary of that part:

The buy back clause in the contract for the land has a value fixed at 2007 prices. MB had an independent valuation carried out and made an offer based on that but that was rejected. Negotiations are still on going, but the impression I got was Barretts are refusing to budge.

Stadium build costs can be worked out at £1,500 per seat (so £30m for a 20k stadium) plus other costs, planning permission, new railway bridge (can't remember what else ... ) we are looking at another £10m. GP is valued at £10m in the accounts.

We do not have another development partner, but Brian and Chris [Gammon] have built up a lot of contacts in the industry and lots of people know about the project what we are trying to achieve.

 

[hobbsy]

Just to be clear he has a two year contract with a one year option by agreement.

Even better, thanks!

 

[Brickie Chap]

I'm confused. Barretts are holding out for the valuation of the site set in 2007? I'm sure they have written down their land assets since then, one of the reasons behind their substantial loss of stock market valuation.

Seems to me they know we can probably pull this off through MB's balance sheet assistance but probably means we need political assistance to inform them if they don't deal with us, they'll never get planning approval etc.

 

[Hullbee]

Barratts are scum the council should be taking action to get them to finish off what they started on great west quarter and to start building on alfa lavel or at the very least start serving amenity notices to get them to improve the condition and appearance of there sites rather than leaving them!! Could hounslow council not compulsory purchase Lionel road?? Perhaps bees fans need to get a voice on hounslow council again to push such an initiative through? Councils and planners aren't responsible for massive companies land backing but they have the powers to force developers to develop they just choose not to use them! Why should barratts get top dollar in this current Market force the issue by putting more pressure on hounslow council

 

[CTBee]

Was there minutes taken last night?
Will they be shared for all supporters to see?

 

[Brickie Chap]

I would imagine the CPO route would be near enough impossible but also incredibly long winded.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Given the state of the country and various local authorities, can't see LBH bending over backwards to help either. It would be very difficult to square with the voters, whilst at the sametime cutting front end services.

 

[peza]

i thought UR was very impressive last night with his open and direct answers....no questions were avoided

 

[peza]

funniest question was when the players were asked what was said in the 'huddle' before kick off and Sam Saunders answered 'where are we all going tonight then?'

 

[SQUELCH]

Did Uwe talk about the other clubs in the league? ie was he quizzed on who he thinks will do well this year?

 

[abee]

funniest question was when the players were asked what was said in the 'huddle' before kick off and Sam Saunders answered 'where are we all going tonight then?'

That was my question as I thought it was time to inject some gravitas into the proceedings. My original question was gonna be 'When are we gonna get some proper first team regulars on the panel' but ever mindful of other peoples sensitivities I decided against.

I thought the answer from Sam would be 'Who are we on for the 3.15 at Chepstow' but he trumped me.

 

[Gee Bee]

Given the state of the country and various local authorities, can't see LBH bending over backwards to help either. It would be very difficult to square with the voters, whilst at the sametime cutting front end services.

Could always put a new library in the ground.

 

[1markbee]

All the guys on the panel done well last night, well done to all invloved. What was ashame was the turn out from the supporters! Really would have expected more fans there.

 

[Paul USA]

Some honest answers from all concerned last night.

Uve accepted he has made some errors in team selection and format so far but he has learnt from those errors. Impresed that he NEVER tried to hide from any question asked and gave clear answers.

I spoke with Uve on a matter I did not want to ask in public once the forum had finished. I was immediatley VERY impressed by his response and the fact that his response will be evident to me (If you know what/where to look )

He is a very intelligent and articulate man that has time for the fans. He made the point of saying how pleased he was to see the number of fans that travel.

Was surprised to hear we are looking for a new training ground as Jersey Road has 1st class pitches - The changing rooms could do with some improvement, a plastic pitch is needed and floodlights on the rear pitch would mean we could have the under 16's downwards training at Jersey Road rather than having to travel to Wembley.

In my opinion, Lionel Road is virtually a dead duck as negotiations have been ongoing for a year and nothing has happened. - Most all has to be kept confidential so maybe there is something but Brian did not have the look of someone who would be giving good news down the road. I hope I am wrong.

Sam Saunders picture will be on 3 Bus Routes soon promoting Family Tickets at BFC . God help the children.

abee sat in the audience and as expected gave immediate and exact answers to the 3 questions asked of him. There was a question about the jacket he was wearing but I thought it made him look 15 years younger.

All in all a good night with the only disapointment being the attendance figure. Many here on the GPG use their keyboards to ask questions but it would appear they can not be bothered to attend GP when BIAS provide the perfect platform for questions to be asked and answered immediatley.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Some honest answers from all concerned last night.

Uve accepted he has made some errors in team selection and format so far but he has learnt from those errors. Impresed that he NEVER tried to hide from any question asked and gave clear answers.

I spoke with Uve on a matter I did not want to ask in public once the forum had finished. I was immediatley VERY impressed by his response and the fact that his response will be evident to me (If you know what/where to look )

He is a very intelligent and articulate man that has time for the fans. He made the point of saying how pleased he was to see the number of fans that travel.

Was surprised to hear we are looking for a new training ground as Jersey Road has 1st class pitches - The changing rooms could do with some improvement, a plastic pitch is needed and floodlights on the rear pitch would mean we could have the under 16's downwards training at Jersey Road rather than having to travel to Wembley.

In my opinion, Lionel Road is virtually a dead duck as negotiations have been ongoing for a year and nothing has happened. - Most all has to be kept confidential so maybe there is something but Brian did not have the look of someone who would be giving good news down the road. I hope I am wrong.

Sam Saunders picture will be on 3 Bus Routes soon promoting Family Tickets at BFC . God help the children.

abee sat in the audience and as expected gave immediate and exact answers to the 3 questions asked of him. There was a question about the jacket he was wearing but I thought it made him look 15 years younger.

All in all a good night with the only disapointment being the attendance figure. Many here on the GPG use their keyboards to ask questions but it would appear they can not be bothered to attend GP when BIAS provide the perfect platform for questions to be asked and answered immediatley.

I didn't go because it's a 50 miles round trip and I'm doing it again on Saturday.

 

[abee]

Was surprised to hear we are looking for a new training ground as Jersey Road has 1st class pitches - The changing rooms could do with some improvement, a plastic pitch is needed and floodlights on the rear pitch would mean we could have the under 16's downwards training at Jersey Road rather than having to travel to Wembley.

It's a lease problem Paul. Jersey Road is fine but we are not prepared to spend further monies on upgrading unless/until we can secure a longer lease. Jersey Road is probably our first preference but we haven't had much luck with nailing down a long term lease in the few years I've been involved so we are looking around for an alternative.

abee sat in the audience and as expected gave immediate and exact answers to the 3 questions asked of him. There was a question about the jacket he was wearing but I thought it made him look 15 years younger.

Now returned to my pimp.

 

[CTBee]

I didn't go because it's a 50 miles round trip and I'm doing it again on Saturday.

Same expect it's more like 100 miles for me.
Does anyone know if what was discussed will be made widely available?

 

[Chorlton Bee]

I didn't go because it's a 50 miles round trip and I'm doing it again on Saturday.

then the slight that you perceived probably wasn't aimed at you then was it?

 

[Les Beeavinu]

then the slight that you perceived probably wasn't aimed at you then was it?

I was picking up on this point;

Many here on the GPG use their keyboards to ask questions but it would appear they can not be bothered to attend GP when BIAS provide the perfect platform for questions to be asked and answered immediatley.

It's not the "perfect platform" if a lot of people can't get to it. Perhaps the perfect platform is some kind of message board for Brentford supporters who can raise questions, queries and get them answered etc ......

 

[Chorlton Bee]

I was picking up on this point;



It's not the "perfect platform" if a lot of people can't get to it. Perhaps the perfect platform is some kind of message board for Brentford supporters who can raise questions, queries and get them answered etc ......

Or on a more convenient day, perhaps one when a lot of supporters are in attendance in the area anyway...

 

[rebus]

Highlights will be on BeesPlayer on Monday I'm told.

 

[SmiffyBee]

Did Uwe talk about the other clubs in the league? ie was he quizzed on who he thinks will do well this year?

He mentioned the Sheffield clubs a number of times and Preston.
He also referred to a figure of 7 clubs, set above the rest in League 1. (at a guess I would say Sheff W, Sheff U, Charlton, Preston, MK Dons, Huddersfield and possibly S****horpe ?)

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

thanks for the info smiffy, hobbsy, paulusa. sounds good.

 

[hobbsy]

I was picking up on this point;



It's not the "perfect platform" if a lot of people can't get to it. Perhaps the perfect platform is some kind of message board for Brentford supporters who can raise questions, queries and get them answered etc ......

Indeed, although you could also have e-mailed a question into BIAS and they would've read it out for you. There were two like that although I don't recall them being particularly interesting or riveting.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Could always put a new library in the ground.

Why

 

[Gee Bee]

Why

Why not? Or other community projects deemed as part of the "Big Society" and centred around the only local professional football club. You could have Youth training programmes and all sorts of local community things in a ground that is only used every other weekend. Voters might like it.

 

[West Wilts Bee]

Some honest answers from all concerned last night.

Uve accepted he has made some errors in team selection and format so far but he has learnt from those errors. Impresed that he NEVER tried to hide from any question asked and gave clear answers.

I spoke with Uve on a matter I did not want to ask in public once the forum had finished. I was immediatley VERY impressed by his response and the fact that his response will be evident to me (If you know what/where to look )

He is a very intelligent and articulate man that has time for the fans. He made the point of saying how pleased he was to see the number of fans that travel.

Was surprised to hear we are looking for a new training ground as Jersey Road has 1st class pitches - The changing rooms could do with some improvement, a plastic pitch is needed and floodlights on the rear pitch would mean we could have the under 16's downwards training at Jersey Road rather than having to travel to Wembley.

In my opinion, Lionel Road is virtually a dead duck as negotiations have been ongoing for a year and nothing has happened. - Most all has to be kept confidential so maybe there is something but Brian did not have the look of someone who would be giving good news down the road. I hope I am wrong.

Sam Saunders picture will be on 3 Bus Routes soon promoting Family Tickets at BFC . God help the children.

abee sat in the audience and as expected gave immediate and exact answers to the 3 questions asked of him. There was a question about the jacket he was wearing but I thought it made him look 15 years younger.

All in all a good night with the only disapointment being the attendance figure. Many here on the GPG use their keyboards to ask questions but it would appear they can not be bothered to attend GP when BIAS provide the perfect platform for questions to be asked and answered immediatley.

I am sure that Paul USA does not mean the faithfull that travel many miles round trip. Especially when most of us have not got a pot to piss in. and thank the good lord for the travelling faithfull. But I agree with him, the people of Brentford do not deserve a football league in their town. Not many Brentford residents Have stood by their football club, and thats a fact.

 

[absenteebee]

I am sure that Paul USA does not mean the faithfull that travel many miles round trip. Especially when most of us have not got a pot to piss in. and thank the good lord for the travelling faithfull. But I agree with him, the people of Brentford do not deserve a football league in their town. Not many Brentford residents Have stood by their football club, and thats a fact.

To be fair, I don't think I'd fancy a whole football league in my hometown.

 

[nick logan]

Highlights will be on BeesPlayer on Monday I'm told.

So only people with Bees player can see it. Priceless

 

[Bill Benn]

So only people with Bees player can see it. Priceless

No good moaning Nick you should have got off your arse and gone ito the event like l didn't

 

[Adam]

So only people with Bees player can see it. Priceless

£35.99

 

[Les Beeavinu]

So only people with Bees player can see it. Priceless

 

[nick logan]

No good moaning Nick you should have got off your arse and gone ito the event like l didn't

Fair point mate, i must get my act together when it comes to Bees .