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There's is not and has never been any law in cricket saying that the benefit of the doubt goes to the batsman

Also, it is impossible to tell if that hit the ground. It may be able to tell with super definition close up that it touched some grass. But not the ground.
True but as I understand it and happy to be corrected they have ditched the soft signal - so the third umpire in my view should be 100% certain that the ball did not ground. I need to watch the replay again later but Green’s reaction on the big screen at the ground said it all for me and others.
 

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True but as I understand it and happy to be corrected they have ditched the soft signal - so the third umpire in my view should be 100% certain that the ball did not ground. I need to watch the replay again later but Green’s reaction on the big screen at the ground said it all for me and others.
Yes., there is no soft signal

So not sure what the 3rd umpire's instructions are tbh.
 

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Probably touching the ground. But can't be 100% sure

I'm not sure I would have given it out, IF I was shown this at the time.
 

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Probably touching the ground. But can't be 100% sure

I'm not sure I would have given it out, IF I was shown this at the time.
Thanks for sharing this pic - not seen so if in doubt not sure how one can give it out. This still photo was not shown at the ground.

You can't get these decision wrong in a WTC final especially in the context of the game and Gill's dismissal was in the over before tea when at the time he looked well set.
 

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You can't get these decision wrong in a WTC final especially in the context of the game and Gill's dismissal was in the over before tea when at the time he looked well set.
It is impossible to tell if this was a catch or not. Like a tight offside as you cannot determine when a ball was kicked to the 1/1000000000th of a second. Decisions like this are all part of the game. Officiating decisions have been part of sport for centuries. If you have to rely on moaning about a tight decision going against you, then you are not winners.

It's like complaining about losing the toss of a coin for kick-off
 

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It is impossible to tell if this was a catch or not. Like a tight offside as you cannot determine when a ball was kicked to the 1/1000000000th of a second. Decisions like this are all part of the game. Officiating decisions have been part of sport for centuries. If you have to rely on moaning about a tight decision going against you, then you are not winners.

It's like complaining about losing the toss of a coin for kick-off
You made the case that if it is impossible to tell this is a catch or not then you can't give it out. Not moaning but this is 2023 not 1983 and with all the advances in technology one should get decisions like right.

Winning and losing the toss is part and parcel of the game and nothing can change that.
 

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For me, there cannot be 100 per cent certainty, from what the third umpire was shown, that it was a clean catch. Indeed, from the pictures shown on Sky at the time that he would have been seeing, it certainly looked that the ball had touched the ground. I even said at the time that there's no way that the third umpire can give that out, so I was shocked by his decision.

As for any soft signal that the on-field umpires may give in such a situation, that is only relevant if there is a problem with the technology for the third umpire, which was not the case in this instance.
 

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See Post 1103 that you shared. These images should be shared in 'real time'.
You think that every photographer in the ground should submit pictures without payment to someone in the ground in real-time who, in real-time, examines the 1000s of frames and, in real time, zooms in on each one and then forward frame-by-frame

Get over it. It was a 50/50 decision that went against you. Hard cheese.
 

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You think that every photographer in the ground should submit pictures without payment to someone in the ground in real-time who, in real-time, examines the 1000s of frames and, in real time, zooms in on each one and then forward frame-by-frame

Get over it. It was a 50/50 decision that went against you. Hard cheese.
You were both playing so nicely.
Banana and IB locking horns on a Saturday night.
Should be GPG gold….?
 

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Isn't part of the problem in a situation like this the picture is a two dimensional representation of a three dimensional situation
 

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You think that every photographer in the ground should submit pictures without payment to someone in the ground in real-time who, in real-time, examines the 1000s of frames and, in real time, zooms in on each one and then forward frame-by-frame

Get over it. It was a 50/50 decision that went against you. Hard cheese.
Calling it a night but let's hope England when they eventually reach a WTC final don't get a similar call on the 4th day and the last over before tea :)
 

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What is the benefit of removing the soft signal?! Honestly think that in cases like this, the perspective of the on field umpires is helpful in probably reaching the correct decision.
 

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The main priority today is India keeping the Aussies in the field for another 70 plus overs to knacker out their bowling attack ahead of next Friday when the real cricket starts. Perhaps Pat Cummins pulling up with a stress fracture and Steve Smith breaking 3 fingers.
 

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What is the benefit of removing the soft signal?! Honestly think that in cases like this, the perspective of the on field umpires is helpful in probably reaching the correct decision.
The soft signal only comes into play if the technology doesn't work for the third umpire.
 

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Since when have we started calling them "Team India" and "Team Australia"

Does that annoy anyone else?

I learnt in a podcast the other day that Team GB for athletics shouldn't be called Team GB but Team UK because Britain is the name of the actual island or suntin. Was very interesting if I understood it.
 

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What advances in technology are those then?
Perhaps put a sensor chip in a cricket ball that can indicate the ball contact against ground/grass versus the hand. Naked eye and current TV technology as you say aren't 100%
 

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Perhaps put a sensor chip in a cricket ball that can indicate the ball contact against ground/grass versus the hand. Naked eye and current TV technology as you say aren't 100%
Maybe we could just accept that marginal decisions happen in sport and move on from them. This quest for absolute certainty is tiresome. I guess we'll have AI making all the decisions in no time anyway.
 

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Maybe we could just accept that marginal decisions happen in sport and move on from them. This quest for absolute certainty is tiresome. I guess we'll have AI making all the decisions in no time anyway.
Bad decisions are part and parcel of sport, DRS works very well in cricket and cuts most out but not all, a toe nail offside doesn’t interest me in football, the quest for perfection is insane.
 

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Boland really bothers me, more of an English bowling condition man than most English bowlers.
 

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First time I've seen Boland and he looks very threatening in English conditions. Would imagine one of Starc or Hazelwood miss out at Edgbaston.
 

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First time I've seen Boland and he looks very threatening in English conditions. Would imagine one of Starc or Hazelwood miss out at Edgbaston.
He swung us to death in one test in Aus, I think it was his debut at 31 years of age or something.
 

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Australia looking ominous but let's get real India's prep for this match has been non existent. IPL much more important it seems. Think we need a test match world Cup.
 

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In terms of preparing for the 1st Test, playing in a very competitive match against India has to be a better bet than a warm-up against Ireland.
 

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The main priority today is India keeping the Aussies in the field for another 70 plus overs to knacker out their bowling attack ahead of next Friday when the real cricket starts. Perhaps Pat Cummins pulling up with a stress fracture and Steve Smith breaking 3 fingers.
Well the Indians aren't doing much to help us, are they?
 

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Fully expected Australia to win today but blah what an anti climax. To lose 7 wickets in a session on that wicket is hugely disappointing. Oh well - had lots of fun in the last 5 days.

Still believe Australia are not all that and are beatable. Expect England to win the ashes if they continue their form they had over the last year.
 

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Wasn't that Handled the ball?
I had to Google this earlier. Handling the ball was removed as a stand-alone method of dismissal in 2017 and is now incorporated into obstructing the field.
 

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IMO the Fielding side should have rescinded their appeal. He clearly wasn't trying to gain an advantage
I don't think it really matters, the balls not gone dead and he's handled it, it seems a fairly obvious dismissal to me.
 
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