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[longtimeagobee]

Pak trying to grab a defeat from the jaws of victory against SA now on Sky.

They’re quite good at this.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I saw these stats which I think is a useful metric in how good a test batsmen:

Test innings per century (min 50 :

D Bradman: 2.76
K Williamson: 5.81
S Smith: 6.03
K Sangakkara: 6.13
G Sobers: 6.15
J Kallis: 6.22
Y Khan: 6.26
S Tendulkar: 6.45
B Lara: 6.82
V Kohli: 6.83
R Ponting: 7.00
V Richards: 7.58
J Root: 7.69
R Dravid: 7.94

A few thoughts:

Bradman numbers are impressive but masked by the fact he played probably 90% of his tests against one team.
Kumar is one of the most underrated batsmen ever and hardly ever gets mentioned in all time teams. Younis Khan was quality.
Take away Williamson record at home, he would be near the bottom.

Where is he? Had to face some of the greatest fast bowlers of all time in a cap.

 

[Jam Jar]

They managed to avoid choking that. ODI probably their best format but even then they arent great

 

[Indian Bee]

Lions squad to Australia.

Rocky Flintoff: Andrew Flintoff's son named in England Lions squad

Rocky Flintoff is named in the England Lions squad for their tour of Australia in January.

www.bbc.co.uk

Good luck to Flintoff junior, however surprised not to see Archie Vaughan. Good move to take Bashir ahead of the ashes next winter so he can get used to the conditions.

 

[Super_horns]

Good luck to Rocky .

Be a lot of expectations and pressure on young shoulders .

 

[Indian Bee]

Sounds a bit angry here:


View: https://x.com/benstokes38/status/1871285781014384858?s=46&t=TbCV2mMEhMCea-mPoYkV1A

 

[taxi driver]

Lions squad to Australia.

Rocky Flintoff: Andrew Flintoff's son named in England Lions squad

Rocky Flintoff is named in the England Lions squad for their tour of Australia in January.

www.bbc.co.uk

Good luck to Flintoff junior, however surprised not to see Archie Vaughan. Good move to take Bashir ahead of the ashes next winter so he can get used to the conditions.

Sadly Harry Moore has been left out ?

They would have had a good look at him in South Africa though.

Still very young and maybe it's a wise decision, no need to rush him ?

 

[Untouchable]

Disgraceful.

 

[Judio1999]

Teams
Group A: Pakistan, India, New Zealand, Bangladesh

Group B: South Africa, Australia, Afghanistan, England

Fixtures
February

19 Pakistan v New Zealand, Karachi
20 Bangladesh v India, Dubai
21 Afghanistan v South Africa, Karachi
22 Australia v England, Lahore, Pakistan
23 Pakistan v India, Dubai
24 Bangladesh v New Zealand, Rawalpindi
25 Australia v South Africa, Rawalpindi
26 Afghanistan v England, Lahore
27 Pakistan v Bangladesh, Rawalpindi
28 Afghanistan v Australia, Lahore

March
1 South Africa v England, Karachi
2 New Zealand v India, Dubai

4 Semi-final 1, Dubai
5 Semi-final 2, Lahore

9 Final, Lahore (unless India qualify, then it will be played in Dubai)

Both semi-finals and final have reserve days

Here are the games that hopefully everyone will boycott watching

 

[ppobee]

Here are the games that hopefully everyone will boycott watching

Not sure they'll notice among the hundreds of millions who will watch.

I'm lucky enough to have watched a World Cup final in Labore in 1996. A great city. It was tense then too, a terrorist bomb had not long gone off at the Egyptian Embassy and there were other threats (with Australia and WI refusing to play in Sri Lanks for simialr reasons). It would be a real shame if this tournament ends up in Dubai for the final, but it was probably an inevitability after announcing Pakistan as host.

 

[Indian Bee]

Here are the games that hopefully everyone will boycott watching

Looking forward to seeing hundred of millions boycott these games because @Judio1999 said. Lol. I guess as you say you all on GPG will boycott these games? Let’s see.

 

[Indian Bee]

Disgraceful.

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Agree. No wonder Ben Stokes was angry with his tweet above. The England team like a bit of golf in the UAE.

 

[Indian Bee]

@Jam Jar Shaheen Afridi not selected for the tests against SA? Wow.

 

[Banana]

Where is he? Had to face some of the greatest fast bowlers of all time in a cap.

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22 in 193 so 8.8

However 5.5 vs India which puts him 2nd on the list

They should also discount Not Out innings...

 

[Les Beeavinu]

This Champions Cup thingy, if India face Pakistan (the hosts), are Pakistan going to have to travel to the UAE to play the game?

 

[Banana]

This Champions Cup thingy, if India face Pakistan (the hosts), are Pakistan going to have to travel to the UAE to play the game?

Yes

 

[Gazza Bee]

This Champions Cup thingy, if India face Pakistan (the hosts), are Pakistan going to have to travel to the UAE to play the game?

Yes - the BCCI control cricket. The same thing happened in the last T20 WC where India chose their semi-final location....

 

[Indian Bee]

Yes - the BCCI control cricket. The same thing happened in the last T20 WC where India chose their semi-final location....

My view is clear as I stated before that if India don’t want to play in Pakistan then they should have been kicked out. Having said this there are legitimate security concerns for India to play in Pakistan (far more than any of the other 6 nations) and equally any ICC tournament without India you lose millions and millions of revenue.

 

[kevalutonbee]

Looking forward to seeing hundred of millions boycott these games because @Judio1999 said. Lol. I guess as you say you all on GPG will boycott these games? Let’s see.

If by boycott you mean take no interest in following matches and only know results etc because they might be mentioned in broadcast sports news round ups such as on the radio or televised news (excluding ssn) then add me to the total

 

[Indian Bee]

If by boycott you mean take no interest in following matches and only know results etc because they might be mentioned in broadcast sports news round ups such as on the radio or televised news (excluding ssn) then add me to the total

I get what you are saying. The Champions Trophy is the ICC tournament that I have least interest in (well until it starts). I personally think it would have been good if ICC made a stand against India but it was never going to happen (ever). Pakistan not having to play in India in future ICC tournaments works well also.

 

[Banana]

My view is clear as I stated before that if India don’t want to play in Pakistan then they should have been kicked out. Having said this there are legitimate security concerns for India to play in Pakistan (far more than any of the other 6 nations) and equally any ICC tournament without India you lose millions and millions of revenue.

If India didn't partake then the tourament would be financially unviable.

 

[Indian Bee]

If India didn't partake then the tourament would be financially unviable.

Exactly.

 

[aawharris]

I wonder what would the ICC would say if England didnt want to play in Australia because we dont like them and they have spiders that are a safety risk?

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I wonder what would the ICC would say if England didnt want to play in Australia because we dont like them and they have spiders that are a safety risk?

While I don't agree with the decision that's been made, I do think the political tensions which have led to past conflict does raise the level a little to be honest.

 

[Judio1999]

I just hate it when politics influences sporting occasions

 

[Indian Bee]

Wise man is Jimmy, can't argue with his selection


View: https://youtu.be/TRgpFkwK3K4?si=t6ci52GUSJRryDxd

 

[Jam Jar]

@Jam Jar Shaheen Afridi not selected for the tests against SA? Wow.

To be honest he has been poor in test cricket for a while, his pace has dropped, doesn't have the stamina to bowl in test matches - correct decision. Shaheen has the talent but lazy work ethic and should just stick to the limited overs stuff - a one trick pony. The cupboard is pretty bare having said that Naseem is worse than Shaheen but somehow still gets a gig.

 

[Jam Jar]

My view is clear as I stated before that if India don’t want to play in Pakistan then they should have been kicked out. Having said this there are legitimate security concerns for India to play in Pakistan (far more than any of the other 6 nations) and equally any ICC tournament without India you lose millions and millions of revenue.

I think Pakistan now employs presidental level security for cricket tours so can't think the Indian team would be at any more threat than the England team.

I do think the PCB could have stricter with their negotiation - perhaps a 25 year agreement that all Pakistan-India games if to be played in any sort of tournament in India should be held in neutral country as well as potential semi-final / final.

I'm hoping Modi kicks the bucket a new government might stop this nonsense but I know little of Indian Politics and its probable that the next government would do just the same.

 

[Indian Bee]

To be honest he has been poor in test cricket for a while, his pace has dropped, doesn't have the stamina to bowl in test matches - correct decision. Shaheen has the talent but lazy work ethic and should just stick to the limited overs stuff - a one trick pony. The cupboard is pretty bare having said that Naseem is worse than Shaheen but somehow still gets a gig.

Good test match currently involving Pakistan. SA 191-7, after Pakistan scored 211

My point with Shaheen is that if he isn’t selected for test crickets on pitches in SA when will he be selected.

 

[Indian Bee]

I think Pakistan now employs presidental level security for cricket tours so can't think the Indian team would be at any more threat than the England team.

I do think the PCB could have stricter with their negotiation - perhaps a 25 year agreement that all Pakistan-India games if to be played in any sort of tournament in India should be held in neutral country as well as potential semi-final / final.

I'm hoping Modi kicks the bucket a new government might stop this nonsense but I know little of Indian Politics and its probable that the next government would do just the same.

Don’t agree on the Modi point, Jaishankar the foreign minister visited Pakistan in October. So efforts have been made. Why would India take the risk when in truth there is lots of instability in Pakistan politics and only takes a few nutters. India would certainly be a Cat A risk, far more than England and the rest.

It’s always convenient that India are drawn with Pakistan for ICC tournaments. India always tends to win ? but ICC need to stop rigging the draws, despite the financial benefits of any India v Pakistan match.

 

[Banana]

It’s always convenient that India are drawn with Pakistan for ICC tournaments. India always tends to win ? but ICC need to stop rigging the draws, despite the financial benefits of any India v Pakistan match.

Reminds me of a column by AA Gill who said that he read on the plane upon leaving Pakistan that it was the 2nd most corrupt nation in the world. He suggested that they only avoided first place by bribing someone.

 

[Jam Jar]

Good test match currently involving Pakistan. SA 191-7, after Pakistan scored 211

My point with Shaheen is that if he isn’t selected for test crickets on pitches in SA when will he be selected.

I think his test career is probably over. And he isn't 24 - proper age fudge that.

SA tail has wagged think this match is game over- Bosch doing the job with the bat as well as the ball - I believe his dad played for SA in their inaugural test match after apartheid, I believe he passed away recently (poisioned).

 

[Judio1999]

Good test match currently involving Pakistan. SA 191-7, after Pakistan scored 211

My point with Shaheen is that if he isn’t selected for test crickets on pitches in SA when will he be selected.

7-191 (Marco Jansen, 50.4 ov)
10-301 (Dane Paterson, 73.4 ov)

Not so close any more !!!

Corbin Bosch comes in at 9 and hits 15 4s in a knock of 81

 

[JANORAK]

7-191 (Marco Jansen, 50.4 ov)
10-301 (Dane Paterson, 73.4 ov)

Not so close any more !!!

Corbin Bosch comes in at 9 and hits 15 4s in a knock of 81

Brilliant name for a tailender!

 

[Indian Bee]

7-191 (Marco Jansen, 50.4 ov)
10-301 (Dane Paterson, 73.4 ov)

Not so close any more !!!

Thank you. I said it’s a good test match going on. I didn’t say it was close !!!!

 

[TW3Bee]

7-191 (Marco Jansen, 50.4 ov)
10-301 (Dane Paterson, 73.4 ov)

Not so close any more !!!

Corbin Bosch comes in at 9 and hits 15 4s in a knock of 81

Pakistan still trail.

Currently -6 for 3.

 

[stevil]

Brilliant name for a tailender!

A-Bosch...

 

[longtimeagobee]

Watching SA v Pakistan test & wondering why someone near that awful brass band hasn’t shoved their instruments where they’d never blow them again.

 

[Indian Bee]

SA 19/3 chasing 140 odd.

@Jam Jar good to see Pakistan doing well after that first test against England. Won that series, just beaten SA 3-0 in the ODIs away and at least there are competitive in this test match.

 

[Jam Jar]

SA 19/3 chasing 140 odd.

@Jam Jar good to see Pakistan doing well after that first test against England. Won that series, just beaten SA 3-0 in the ODIs away and at least there are competitive in this test match.

They will ultimately lose this game but they have had moments where they were in the game, had SA at 200 / 8 and let them off the hook and then Babar and Saud were going well together until Babar threw his wicket away

 

[Indian Bee]

They will ultimately lose this game but they have had moments where they were in the game, had SA at 200 / 8 and let them off the hook and then Babar and Saud were going well together until Babar threw his wicket away

Yep Babar looked in great nick from what I saw today.

 

[Jam Jar]

Yep Babar looked in great nick from what I saw today.

Yeah story of his career not mentally tough to go on and get three figures. Only 9 test centuries in 56 test matches. Flat track bully

 

[Indian Bee]

Yeah story of his career not mentally tough to go on and get three figures. Only 9 test centuries in 56 test matches. Flat track bully

Certainly not in the levels of Younis Khan (quality player), Yousuf, Miandad and Inzaman to name a few.

 

[Indian Bee]

Another triple 100 coming up for Brook in May 25, think England play Zim in a one off test match then (?). Shah could break Lara's test record !

Zimbabwe v Afghanistan - Cricket - BBC Sport

Find out the in depth batting and bowling figures for Zimbabwe v Afghanistan in the Men's International Test Match Series on BBC Sport.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Indian Bee]

SA 99-8 chasing 140 ?

 

[TW3Bee]

Three wickets in four balls have brought Pakistan to the brink of victory in SA.

104-8 chasing 148 to win.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Damn, stopped watching it half an hour ago.

 

[Judio1999]

96 for 4 to 99 for 8

But tail is wagging now

 

[Judio1999]

121 for 8

A win guarantees SA a place in Lords Final next June

 

[TW3Bee]

121 for 8

A win guarantees SA a place in Lords Final next June

19 runs to win for SA
2 wickets for Pakistan.