Jake Bidwell

Jake Bidwell

Bidwell has been excellent. Hope the Woodman devotees can appreciate what Jake brings to the team that Woodman cant. I would go so far to say that he has been our best loanee this season, and is still developing.
 

Jake Bidwell

I doubt if we'd get him on a season-long loan, and Everton may want to get him to a Championship club to continue his progress

We said that about Poland's number 1 but he came back, if we are looking after him and playing him they may well see it as the best opportunity and level to get regular games.
 

Jake Bidwell

Bidwell has been excellent. Hope the Woodman devotees can appreciate what Jake brings to the team that Woodman cant. I would go so far to say that he has been our best loanee this season, and is still developing.

Actually, as a Woodman devotee, I agree with you that he has been our best loanee. He is a very good prospect imo.

I guess my main concern with his signing was, & still is, that left back was not a problem position imo & money could have been better utilised elsewhere. But that doesn't mean that he hasn't done really well for us & he has definitely been an asset.
 

Jake Bidwell

Does anyone know when Bidwell contract expires at Everton? I would love to have him on permanant basis
 

Jake Bidwell

Just searched trying to find how long his contract is with Everton couldn't find it but sounds highly regarded by those at Everton!
 

Jake Bidwell

Fingers crossed I think we have the prospect of getting him for a season loan
 

Jake Bidwell

Still don't see why Woodman and Bidwell don't play together. Defensively, I don't think there's a massive difference. However Bidwell offers a lot more going forward, he's easily a better winger than defender.
 

Jake Bidwell

Still don't see why Woodman and Bidwell don't play together. Defensively, I don't think there's a massive difference. However Bidwell offers a lot more going forward, he's easily a better winger than defender.

Hello Craig!
 

Jake Bidwell

.............tough game for the fella today,their No17 was a bit of handful,but Jake coped well............
 

Jake Bidwell

You clearly have gone mad. If we get bidwell for a season long loan we would have the best left back in the division by miles.

Agreed. I'd take Bidwell over Dickson any day of the week. Ryan may have been a great player when he left us but I don't think he's at that level now.
 

Jake Bidwell

Still don't see why Woodman and Bidwell don't play together. Defensively, I don't think there's a massive difference. However Bidwell offers a lot more going forward, he's easily a better winger than defender.

What like we have Thompson and Logan playing on the right, interesting. But at the moment it's not broke so no need to change anything.
We now have a settled back 5 who are playing brilliant.
Especially Bidwell who looks like a really talented player!
 

Jake Bidwell

Playing a bit too well if we hope to keep him next season IMO
 

Jake Bidwell

I thought he was superb today, he is very solid and loves to get forward and can put a decent ball over!
 

Jake Bidwell

I thought he was superb today, he is very solid and loves to get forward and can put a decent ball over!

He had a great game today but thought Forrester was excellent also especially in first half where he doubled up to help Bidwell defending against their attacks down the right .Bidwell and Forrester have good futures in the game.
 

Jake Bidwell

Jake was quality today as he has been in the majority of games he has played in this season. The lad made some important tackles today to keep us in the game & continued to get forward to support the Brentford attacks. Would love to see him in a Brentford shirt again next season but wouldn't be surprised if he is snapped up on loan by a Championship Club...
 

Jake Bidwell

The new Martin Grainger without the freekicks! Skinhead skinhead skinhead
 

Jake Bidwell

What like we have Thompson and Logan playing on the right, interesting. But at the moment it's not broke so no need to change anything.
We now have a settled back 5 who are playing brilliant.
Especially Bidwell who looks like a really talented player!

Should always be looking to improve. I see it like this. Woodman is a good enough defender for this league. Bidwell has the ability to put in cross after cross and not waste them, the more balls we get into the box the better our chances of scoring are. Bidwell seems to make the most crosses out of anyone when I watch games, so playing him at left-back just seems to be taking away from what I think is his best aspect of his game.
 

Jake Bidwell

Should always be looking to improve. I see it like this. Woodman is a good enough defender for this league. Bidwell has the ability to put in cross after cross and not waste them, the more balls we get into the box the better our chances of scoring are. Bidwell seems to make the most crosses out of anyone when I watch games, so playing him at left-back just seems to be taking away from what I think is his best aspect of his game.

True those are his strengths but when he first joined I agreed that Woodman was the better defender and was worried about his defensive duties but Jake has grown on me big time and Ive forgotten all about Woodman recently and we certainly haven't missed him.
Bidwell has shown recently some great defensive plays aswell as getting forward. He positions himself well when defending, closes players down and makes some very crucial tackles / interceptions.
Great left foot crossing ability, can run with the ball, pass and distribute it well, he can't get forward overlapping players and creating space.
 
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I honestly think Jake will go all the way. Right to the top. He's a tremendous player. Great one touch control.

If we could sign him on a season-long loan next year, Forrester and Donaldson at their best, we have a real chance of play offs or above next season.
 
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True those are his strengths but when he first joined I agreed that Woodman was the better defender and was worried about his defensive duties but Jake has grown on me big time and Ive forgotten all about Woodman recently and we certainly haven't missed him.
Bidwell has shown recently some great defensive plays aswell as getting forward. He positions himself well when defending, closes players down and makes some very crucial tackles / interceptions.
Great left foot crossing ability, can run with the ball, pass and distribute it well, he can't get forward overlapping players and creating space.
One finally saved, only approximately 5 to go.
You will grow stronger from this, a bit like our left side.
 

Jake Bidwell

Does anybody know what Bidwell's contract situation is at Everton?

Is he highly rated by them? I know he has played a Europa League game, but is there any chance of us having a sniff for next season? (Season Long Loan?)

I think he is probably the best full back I have seen play for us, he has everything but experience imo.
 

Jake Bidwell

I think the best we can hope for is another season long loan. The lad is bound for the England set up the way he is going
 

Jake Bidwell

Out of contract this summer, Everton to decide on his future in the next fortnight.

I would spray my proverbial jiz all over west London if we somehow pulled this signing off
 

Jake Bidwell

Out of contract this summer, Everton to decide on his future in the next fortnight.

I would spray my proverbial jiz all over west London if we somehow pulled this signing off

Yeah I saw that story too and would be equally delighted if we could keep him. Can't see why Everton would let him go but if we could keep him it would be an absolutely outstanding signing.
 

Jake Bidwell

Baines was rested yesterday for Everton’s game –didn’t watch the match but guessing Neville was at left back? He isn’t on the young side, can’t imagine Everton getting rid, England youth international and all that, they may as well keep him as back up and loan him to us again for another year!!!! But of course would be nice if we managed to secure his signature.
 

Jake Bidwell

Baines was rested yesterday for Everton’s game –didn’t watch the match but guessing Neville was at left back? He isn’t on the young side, can’t imagine Everton getting rid, England youth international and all that, they may as well keep him as back up and loan him to us again for another year!!!! But of course would be nice if we managed to secure his signature.

Yes Neville was lb. Everton also have Colman, 23 yo, as cover for lb too. I'd say Jake would be 4th choice at best at present. I would still see a few clubs higher than us take a punt on him, the same with Forshaw, Championship clubs do pick up the better players released by Prem clubs. Although we may well have a chance.
 

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i would actually prefer him on a season long loan next seaoson

when a players is sent out on loan they seem to play much better than when they have actually been bought - i see pim as a prime example

he was superb when on loan, we sign him, his progress goes downhill
 

Jake Bidwell

i would actually prefer him on a season long loan next seaoson

when a players is sent out on loan they seem to play much better than when they have actually been bought - i see pim as a prime example

he was superb when on loan, we sign him, his progress goes downhill

What about Beharino, lionel ainsworth, vine............... I think this is wrong imho and Bidwell would be an excellent signing and would really show the club is moving forward!!
 

Jake Bidwell

What about Beharino, lionel ainsworth, vine............... I think this is wrong imho and Bidwell would be an excellent signing and would really show the club is moving forward!!

I am definatly not denying that he would be a superb signing - showing ambition for once

i just feel we could get more out of him, when he knows that if he plays well he could break into the Everton first team
 

Jake Bidwell

I am definatly not denying that he would be a superb signing - showing ambition for once

i just feel we could get more out of him, when he knows that if he plays well he could break into the Everton first team

Agee partially but all he has to do is look at ryan dickson. If you play well at our level a bigger club will come sooner or later. IMHO if you want to be the best player you can and play at the highest level I would imagine you are more in the shop window playing regular fisrt team footie rather than non competetive reserve footie!
 

Jake Bidwell

Interesting position, clearly Everton don't see him in quite the same light as we do or they would have signed him up by now.

He is an excellent Division 1 full back and we can judge him by that but that doesn't mean a top 10 PL side see him as a similar prospect for them at that level. The England history is by the way as far as they are concerned. Plenty of former under 20's etc plying their trade in the lower leagues.

Can't believe we would get him but you never know, he obviously likes it with us and he will not want to go back to reserve football anywhere.
 

Jake Bidwell

If you go by England history, didn't Leon Knight once play for England U'xx (can't remember the level)....
 

Jake Bidwell

Bidwell is 4th down the list at Everton. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't sign him and Forshaw on perm deals end of this season TBH.
 

Jake Bidwell

If hes out of contract in the summer wow, sign him up on a long contract ASAP
 

Jake Bidwell

Interesting position, clearly Everton don't see him in quite the same light as we do or they would have signed him up by now.

He is an excellent Division 1 full back and we can judge him by that but that doesn't mean a top 10 PL side see him as a similar prospect for them at that level. The England history is by the way as far as they are concerned. Plenty of former under 20's etc plying their trade in the lower leagues.

Can't believe we would get him but you never know, he obviously likes it with us and he will not want to go back to reserve football anywhere.

Spot on. There tends to an overhyping of players on this board IMO. At the mo, IMO we only have Douglas of our contracted players who could sit comfortably at Championship level.Others[ a few] would need a major upping in their overall game but could make the transition. The gap to premiership is huge and Bidwell may lack sufficient pace to deal with the top level [it's all relative]. IMO he can play Championship football and who knows, we just might get him.
 

Jake Bidwell

Spot on. There tends to an overhyping of players on this board IMO. At the mo, IMO we only have Douglas of our contracted players who could sit comfortably at Championship level.Others[ a few] would need a major upping in their overall game but could make the transition. The gap to premiership is huge and Bidwell may lack sufficient pace to deal with the top level [it's all relative]. IMO he can play Championship football and who knows, we just might get him.

I disagree - we have a few players who could play in championship - Logan, Bidwell, Osborne, Dean, possibly Legge (not this year's form though), Douglas, Forshaw (with more games under his belt), Forrester (with more games under belt) and probably both goalies.
 

Jake Bidwell

I disagree - we have a few players who could play in championship - Logan, Bidwell, Osborne, Dean, possibly Legge (not this year's form though), Douglas, Forshaw (with more games under his belt), Forrester (with more games under belt) and probably both goalies.

Please note I referred to 'contracted' players. Re goalies- agree but I'm mainly concerned about outfield players. I said there's a few among the contracted players if they upped their game of whom Logan is one. Already mentioned Douglas and Bidwell.Forshaw isn't a brentford player [ yet- but , as you say, would need more games]. Agree Forrester if fit. Agree Dean if he cuts out the errors. I'd add Saunders and Donaldson too.
 

Jake Bidwell

Regarding Championship potential, it rather depends on whether you consider that we would be a team fighting for a play-off place or one battling against relegation. The Championship seems to be quite polarised with no-one in the "mid-table mediocrity" places and we'd need to make a good fist of it or we'd drop straight out of it. Apart from GK, among our contracted players, I think Douglas might have a season or two left in him and Logan certainly has the ability, Forrester is yet to show anything. I can't see any of the others making it, although Saunders might make a cameo if he is allowed time and space but I can't see any others - even Osborne - hacking it in the upper reaches of the Championship. Of the loanees, Bidwell is number one on the list, Dean has great potential and Thompson, too, has something about him; controversially, given the better time and space afforded, I think McGinn could make it, too!
 

Jake Bidwell

Regarding Championship potential, it rather depends on whether you consider that we would be a team fighting for a play-off place or one battling against relegation. The Championship seems to be quite polarised with no-one in the "mid-table mediocrity" places and we'd need to make a good fist of it or we'd drop straight out of it. Apart from GK, among our contracted players, I think Douglas might have a season or two left in him and Logan certainly has the ability, Forrester is yet to show anything. I can't see any of the others making it, although Saunders might make a cameo if he is allowed time and space but I can't see any others - even Osborne - hacking it in the upper reaches of the Championship. Of the loanees, Bidwell is number one on the list, Dean has great potential and Thompson, too, has something about him; controversially, given the better time and space afforded, I think McGinn could make it, too!

Agree. We are way off it aren't we.
 

Jake Bidwell

I thought he was the weak link for us on Saturday. I wouldn't sign him.
 

Jake Bidwell

I thought he was the weak link for us on Saturday. I wouldn't sign him.

I think both full backs were penned back by Notts which blunted our style and due credit to Notts. Personally, I don't think Bidwell is quick enough for the premiership but is more than capable at League 1 and Championship levels. It will be interesting to see what Everton do. I think there's a good chance of a season loan or even a transfer if they don't make him an offer.
I'd have to disagree with your assessment.
 

Jake Bidwell

I think both full backs were penned back by Notts which blunted our style and due credit to Notts. Personally, I don't think Bidwell is quick enough for the premiership but is more than capable at League 1 and Championship levels. It will be interesting to see what Everton do. I think there's a good chance of a season loan or even a transfer if they don't make him an offer.
I'd have to disagree with your assessment.

You have to take into account that he was up against Lloyd Sam on saturday a very capable performer at this level. He kept Sam quiet which nullified much of their threat going forward. I thought he did ok. Also you tend to forget he is only 19, so still developing. He would imo would be an excellent addition to our squad.
 
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