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Jake Reeves
The only thing that will make Jake play better is to tell him that we play in red and white. :shrug:
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The only thing that will make Jake play better is to tell him that we play in red and white. :shrug:
Ealing Bee
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If it keeps his hair out of his eyes, yes.
Take a leaf out of Alan Mac's book - no poncy Hairspray or Alice Bands for him.
filmyfan
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I want to like him I really do-but he keeps pointing to where he wants the ball like he is the midfield general and he never gets it and if he does he gives it away
GP200
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..............the last couple of years have been big years for him...........it's not going to happen...............
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Don't get the criticism. Thought he played well. Kept the ball ticking over and only lost possession when trying incisive balls. He tried and, at times, did make things happen.
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Jake Reeves
Already wrote an essay on how bad he was on the match thread.
Big question...does he look any better of a player today than he was when he broke on the scene 3 years ago?
No.
Big question...does he look any better of a player today than he was when he broke on the scene 3 years ago?
No.
Leicester Bee
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Yes. But only marginally. He wasn't actually bad. If you think he was bad, then that's just a tired old opinion of him being regurgitated just because he's Jake Reeves. Bit like the tired opinions of Button that I read on here. Whereas Dallas seems to have the sun shine out his rear end when he's not all that.
GP200
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..............so a three year improvement is described as marginal.............oh dear...........he didn't control or look to control the midfield,he didn't hurt the opposition with or without the ball.............I really want him to be that player but unfortunately don't see it happening............
Downbeat Bee
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Reeves and Dallas could both do with a stint on loan in League One
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Had a mouth on him today! Shouting and hollering and lots of pointing - did Ok but certainly down the pecking order I would think
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Jake Reeves
There's his problem needs to do more unseen work like Douglas to get the recognition he deserves on here...
kevalutonbee
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Alice bands, snoods, big headphones. Welcome to the big time
Alice,Alice who the **** is Alice
Jake Reeves
That's the problem, thought he was going to be the dogs nuts when he first burst onto the scene but 3 years later and he still all 'potential'.
Doovster
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Don't like criticising our own players but I have to agree with this. I remember seeing him against Fulham for KOC's testimonial and thinking that this kid is going to be a good one. Unfortunately he doesn't appear to have kicked on and as we improve year on year it is going to become more difficult for him to get a look in.
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Of the two Dallas seems to have the edge. A bit more natural ability and more likely to impose himself on the game. Both look good enough to make the grade in League 1 but, in my eyes at least, Reeves hasn't quite got a good enough first touch or enough pace and power to cut it in the Championship. Dallas might be good enough for the step up.
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Is it a bit unfair to mention that Jake Reeves has only recently turned 21? Reeves seems to have been around forever!!!
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He's only 1 year older than Charlie Adams and is younger than Oyeleke who are both a long way behind Reeves in their development!
If Reeves hadn't been sent off against Walsall on the opening day of 12/13 (League Cup), he probably would have had a run in the team like Forshaw was given (and AF is 18 months older). Forshaw was eased into the side by playing on the right of midfield and subsequently flourished, and Reeves similarly needs regular football - a loan at a League 1 club playing week-in week-out could be hugely beneficial. There are a lot of encouraging signs indicating he could be a very good player for us - his involvement in goals vs Stevenage and Staines last year, performance against Sheff Utd and impact against MK Dons for example.
Reeves didn't have a good second half yesterday, but as a young player he needs quality and leadership alongside him in midfield. He thrived in the first half with Tebar providing this. The most important point of course is that it was only a pre-season friendly, so criticism based on it is harsh and the match provides a platform to learn from.
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sonofabee
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Sadly I think he hasn't got anything "special" about him compared to the likes of Adam, Judge, Pritchard, JD, Mac or even Sam (I haven't seen Tebar). He's an also ran and I'd offload to let him make a decent livelihood at somewhere like Dag &Red, Wycombe or Oxford.
Nice lad, just not good enough for where we are now.
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Great analysis! When you do see Tebar, he is the real deal. Great great signing by the Brentford management. a class act.
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He is 21. He is very likely to improve a lot over the next 2-3 years. Way too early to write him off. Don't discard him, develop him and we may reap the rewards. If he goes out on loan it should be seen as part of that development rather than a sign he cannot cut it.
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As this thread is about Jake Reeves I have to agree that I thought he did fairly well last night. Maybe he's our own Jack Wilshere in that too much was expected of him too soon. The "good isn't good enough" comment is a very good one. Looks like a competent League One player. For his career, he probably does need to get regular first team football at that level.
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Isn't Jake simply a young player who we took on and hoped would make a good League One player, since then we've gone up a notch and have an academy that isn't seemingly relying on kids who have been sent packing from other ones? He didn't make it as a League One player and isn't going to make it in our new league, I doubt a League One loan would help him as IMO he wouldn't command a regular place, too small, too lightweight and that "quarterback" position from a few years ago is now nonsense and has been replaced by false number nines and tens. Nothing personal about the young man but not good enough for us and never really was.
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What if he's just not a central midfielder? He might be a useful fullback.
Could he become am understudy for Bidwell, in the overlapping and getting crosses in role, instead of a not quite good enough midfielder?
Could he become am understudy for Bidwell, in the overlapping and getting crosses in role, instead of a not quite good enough midfielder?
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sonofabee
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Lost me, he's not pacey or strong but a very good passer of the ball?
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I heard that he played very well against Barnet when he was playing in a 1st eleven side and it was always going to be difficult to shine against Osasuna who were very good and when there were really only 3-4 of our 1st team starting.
Saying that though i think he'd struggle for us this year and a season loan in the league we just left playing for a good footballing side would be ideal.
Maybe we could do Rochdale a favour if they wanted him as they seem to play with the same style as we do.
If he does go on loan he should nip down the barbers quick though and get a short back n sides otherwise he'll be taken as seriously as Joey Barton was when he wore an alice while speaking english with a french accent.:looks:
Saying that though i think he'd struggle for us this year and a season loan in the league we just left playing for a good footballing side would be ideal.
Maybe we could do Rochdale a favour if they wanted him as they seem to play with the same style as we do.
If he does go on loan he should nip down the barbers quick though and get a short back n sides otherwise he'll be taken as seriously as Joey Barton was when he wore an alice while speaking english with a french accent.:looks:
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Think you understate his strength, and if he's not quick enough to play in the back he's sure as hell not quick enough to play midfield for this club.
I don't see it as a crazy idea.
I don't see it as a crazy idea.
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beebopalula
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He is a frustrating player. Now and then he turns in a really good spell off the bench or the occasional start but then fizzles out. He undoubtedly has talent but he hasn't the consistency required. By now he should have made his mark. Compare him with, for example, a young Tabb.Definitely has a career but I can't see it at Championship level except as a high energy sub in the last 20 mins if one is needed.
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I think it could be a make or break season for Jake. Really needs to kick on as I can easily see him falling further down the pecking order. He has never really realised that early potential
Jake Reeves
Hope it works out for him but he needs to be playing first team football at this stage of his career, a decent run in a team. A loan to a decent club should do him good. Still young, developing and gaining experience.
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Would everyone loan him out? I think he can make a valuable contribution but I think personally he'd get a lot more out of a solid run of 10-15 games in a league one team. Jake in the 3 years he has been a first team player has never had a consistent run in the side.
kevalutonbee
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You could argue that about a certain forward we have just sent out on loan
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I think a decision needs to be made whether he has broken into the first team significantly to be able to command a first team place (not just come off the bench from time to time). If the answer is no then he should go out on loan for a few months at least. We'll never see his true potential otherwise as you wont make significant progress occasionally coming off the bench. I think the fact that we signed him to a long contract shows we have faith in him and maybe its time to invest in his future by loaning him out to someone so we can bring him back and is more likely to challenge for that first team place.
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That's because he's not good enough I'm afraid. If he was, he'd have had a run in the side!!
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Which further emphasizes his need for a first team loan in league 1 to give himself a chance at a run in the side.
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Don't be, the time for sentiment is over. Reeves and O'Connor should be looking for loan moves
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Agree, Reeves has not and IMO will not make a Championship player, as far as O'Connor's concerned, if he still wants to be a player he should go and Join his mate Martin Allen at Barnet. Do we really need any more coaches ?
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