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Jake Reeves

Very sorry to say this but he was way off form when he came on. Just what was he thinking with that "speculative" effort? A great talent but needs a second loan...

my ONLY 'critisism' of Warbs is his consistent belief in Reeves. To not play Dave today was a mistake I feel - he needs game time and needs to be kept interested.
 

Jake Reeves

Never been a great admirer of Reeves and thought he was mediocre at best when he came on - an impression i'm left with every time he comes on i'm afraid. It's understandable that all of would like to see 'home grown' players make the grade with us, and perhaps if he played more regularly he may show up better, but in my opinion we have much better midfield options - including one left on the bench tonight.
 

Jake Reeves

Gotta feel sorry for jake. Here we have a young player with undoubted talent who's still trying to find his way in & learn the game at this level & every time he gets a few minutes & shows a bit of desire to impress in a brief cameo he's slagged off. The guy hasn't got a chance really. Every players development process works at different rates, he's still only 20 isn't he(?) and clearly has ability which has been seen by both Warbs & Uwe. I think with a run of games we'd see him kick on but he's got some great players in front of him in all fairness.
 

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Lee The Bee said:
Gotta feel sorry for jake. Here we have a young player with undoubted talent who's still trying to find his way in & learn the game at this level & every time he gets a few minutes & shows a bit of desire to impress in a brief cameo he's slagged off. The guy hasn't got a chance really. Every players development process works at different rates, he's still only 20 isn't he(?) and clearly has ability which has been seen by both Warbs & Uwe. I think with a run of games we'd see him kick on but he's got some great players in front of him in all fairness.
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IMO he is at the level the team was 12 months ago. His development and the team's appear equally paced and Jake doesn't ever catch up.
 

Jake Reeves

thenightfly said:
Very sorry to say this but he was way off form when he came on. Just what was he thinking with that "speculative" effort? A great talent but needs a second loan...

my ONLY 'critisism' of Warbs is his consistent belief in Reeves. To not play Dave today was a mistake I feel - he needs game time and needs to be kept interested.
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I thought he did OK when he came on although I agree about Dave.
 

Jake Reeves

He added some momentum but really should have looked to create rather than have at least three wild shots; he's no Judge. Having said that, he's probably better at 'energy' and certainly better at shooting than Toums.
 

Jake Reeves

taxi driver said:
IMO he is at the level the team was 12 months ago. His development and the team's appear equally paced and Jake doesn't ever catch up.
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Hard to catch up with 10 minute cameos here & there though isn't it? He's not going to be given the chance to get a run of games at this stage of the season with the importance of results needed for promotion.
 

Jake Reeves

Jake needs more time. I would send him out on loan to League 2. Did Norris and Dallas a world of good when they went out.
 

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Lee The Bee said:
Hard to catch up with 10 minute cameos here & there though isn't it? He's not going to be given the chance to get a run of games at this stage of the season with the importance of results needed for promotion.
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Very true. Farid, Barron, Lee,Toumani, Jake and Kev all suffer the consequences of our progression. All good solid league 1 players who rarely let you down. Not wishing to write any of those mentioned off but nobody would choose any of them above those playing or if we are picking our best XI.
 
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taxi driver said:
Very true. Farid, Barron, Lee,Toumani, Jake and Kev all suffer the consequences of our progression. All good solid league 1 players who rarely let you down. Not wishing to write any of those mentioned off but nobody would choose any of them above those playing or if we are picking our best XI.
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The difference being though with the above mentioned players bar Jake is that they've all played at this level for a good few years & are more limited in how far their careers could go. Whereas jake has only played a handful & his level of potential is unknown really at the moment.
 

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Lee The Bee said:
The difference being though with the above mentioned players bar Jake is that they've all played at this level for a good few years & are more limited in how far their careers could go. Whereas jake has only played a handful & his level of potential is unknown really at the moment.
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Agreed. It's difficult to compare the maximum ability of a 20 year old player against 5 other players aged 26 - 31.
 

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Orp_Bee said:
Agreed. It's difficult to compare the maximum ability of a 20 year old player against 5 other players aged 26 - 31.
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Saville, Forshaw ,Trotta, Yennaris , Bidwell , Harris and Dean are probably better benchmarks then. I really hope that Jake has similar ability. Rosler and MW keep picking him for the bench so maybe he does :)
 

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taxi driver said:
Very true. Farid, Barron, Lee,Toumani, Jake and Kev all suffer the consequences of our progression. All good solid league 1 players who rarely let you down. Not wishing to write any of those mentioned off but nobody would choose any of them above those playing or if we are picking our best XI.
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Maybe my memory is playing tricks but didn't Richard Lee play a fair few games for Watford in the Championship?
 

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kevalutonbee said:
Maybe my memory is playing tricks but didn't Richard Lee play a fair few games for Watford in the Championship?
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Yep :)

Not good enough for our 1st team at the moment :)

Superb deputy though ;)
 

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taxi driver said:
Saville, Forshaw ,Trotta, Yennaris , Bidwell , Harris and Dean are probably better benchmarks then. I really hope that Jake has similar ability. Rosler and MW keep picking him for the bench so maybe he does :)
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Exactly and a lot of those players (excluding Yennaris and perhaps Harris) are now playing better with the addition of experience so hopefully if Jake can get some games here or on loan somewhere else he can start to show more. Here's hoping.
 

Jake Reeves

Don't know what some of you are going on about. Yes his blaze over the bar was a silly pot shot, but he when he came on he was constantly involved in pretty much every decent forward move. OK he didn't score his few shots and could have hit them a lot better - but his movement, positioning and desire to get forward was great.
 

Jake Reeves

I thought he put in a good little cameo. Tried to get involved and could have got a goal. In fact all three subs did all right when they came on
 
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Needs first team games. A loan to a league 1 or 2 club, such as Norris is enjoying, will benefit Jake more than DS games and 10 minute cameos in the first team.

Has Jake improved? Difficult to tell, but I don't think he will be a Forshaw or Saville, he doesn't have the same calmness on the ball when players are around him, or look up when the ball is at his feet. Watching Forshaw and Saville, you see both of these have the time to control, look and pass, even when under pressure. At present Jake doesn't do this. A loan would be good for him.
 

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To Bee Someone said:
I thought he put in a good little cameo. Tried to get involved and could have got a goal. In fact all three subs did all right when they came on
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Reeves did well when he came on, but Akpom and Grigg did nothing. Both of them aren't good enough for Brentford.
 

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sacbfc said:
Reeves did well when he came on, but Akpom and Grigg did nothing. Both of them aren't good enough for Brentford.
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So a highly rated young striker from Arsenal, who we have only seen a handful of cameo appearances from is not good enough for Brentford, that all sounds a bit high and mighty to my mind? The second half was very much played in second gear so the chances of anyone coming on and having a real impact were limited. We are playing some of the best football I have ever seen us play, but unless we get promoted we will have achieved very little.
 

Jake Reeves

EarleyBee said:
So a highly rated young striker from Arsenal, who we have only seen a handful of cameo appearances from is not good enough for Brentford, that all sounds a bit high and mighty to my mind? The second half was very much played in second gear so the chances of anyone coming on and having a real impact were limited. We are playing some of the best football I have ever seen us play, but unless we get promoted we will have achieved very little.
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Still though don't rate Akpom. Both me; my dad and all the people I tand with all have the same opinion. We should have kept Farid.
 

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sacbfc said:
Still though don't rate Akpom. Both me; my dad and all the people I tand with all have the same opinion. We should have kept Farid.
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Thing is though we couldn't/weren't able to give Farid the thing he wanted.

I know that the way we are using Chuba at the moment is similar to they way we used Farid but would think that it is also a logical way to introduce to L1. If the Gooners aren't happy maybe he will go the way of the lad from Liverpool
 

Jake Reeves

Wow, this is a tough school! A kid highly rated by a Champions League club is deemed not good enough after a couple of sub appearances??? Really?? Farid better than Grigg and Akpom???? Reeves came on, got immediately involved and linked play well and yet also deemed 'way off the pace'!! I guess no pleasing some people
 

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sacbfc said:
Still though don't rate Akpom. Both me; my dad and all the people I tand with all have the same opinion. We should have kept Farid.
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Although this is Jake's thread, this is very silly! Akpom's had 60 minutes on the pitch for us in his very first "men's" football. He's looked lively, has a really good turn and change of speed and direction, and good close ball control; he's contributed. Farid looked like an Andy Scott type of player...
 

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Eieieio said:
Don't know what some of you are going on about. Yes his blaze over the bar was a silly pot shot, but he when he came on he was constantly involved in pretty much every decent forward move. OK he didn't score his few shots and could have hit them a lot better - but his movement, positioning and desire to get forward was great.
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I thought he was good and a lot sharper i think they have worked on his speed:)
 

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sacbfc said:
Still though don't rate Akpom. Both me; my dad and all the people I tand with all have the same opinion. We should have kept Farid.
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It may look differant from behind the goal but his passing in and around the box is superb especially under pressure,you can see the Arsenal way in him.
 

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sacbfc said:
Reeves did well when he came on, but Akpom and Grigg did nothing. Both of them aren't good enough for Brentford.
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In a way I understand where you are coming from, however we haven't seen enough of him yet. Let's hope he's not another Texeira, feeling he's too big for L1.
 

Jake Reeves

I think Jake is a good young footballer. I can't remember where, maybe Preston away, he hit a blind first time pass and lofted it over a defender and out to Bidwell on the wing. It was incredible, and it reminded me of his performance away at Sheff Utd last season, which was the most complete performance I'd seen all season by any Bees player - the Utd fans were raving about him afterwards.

I feel that he's at his most impressive when he plays in that quarter-back style, picking the ball up deep and either laying it off simply of spraying the ball all over the pitch. However, he clearly possesses an excellent amount of energy and work rate, and Warbuton seems to bring him on with 20 minutes to go to harry the opposition and chase things down. I don't think this really suits Reeves' style at all, but it's certainly working at the moment.

Would be good to loan him out to a L1 or L2 side that plays decent football, as I don't think he learned an awful lot at AFC Wimbledon last year - maybe Dagenham & Redbridge or Oldham, etc.
 

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sacbfc said:
Reeves did well when he came on, but Akpom and Grigg did nothing. Both of them aren't good enough for Brentford.
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Have I entered a parallel universe????

To suggest that Akpom or Griggs for that matter are not good enough for Brentford is spectacularly mind blowing. Have seen 2 short cameos from Akpom and in my opinion he looked better against BC, his ball control is excellent and awareness of others is first class, it is evident he learned his football at Arsenal and not Stoke!!!!

This is the style of football you need to expect at new Brentford, we don't do hit and hope our forwards need to have greater attributes to their game

If all your friends and family felt Farid was a better bet then I suggest you will be having some pretty bewildering times at Brentford as we are so so different !!
 

Jake Reeves

Sorry but some people on here just dont get what we are trying to achieve here...to play for us now...and moving foward you just have to be comfortable on the ball with the right qualities to play the style of football that we are aspiring to (and in some truly sublime spells this season achieving)...so if anyone has any doubts why the likes of Toums, Shay and Farid are being allowed to leave it is simply that they dont measure up or have the potential to improve to the levels and style that we want.
 

Jake Reeves

Looked really good today. Could have scored and very lively in his passing and movement.
 

Jake Reeves

Orp_Bee said:
Looked really good today. Could have scored and very lively in his passing and movement.
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Dallas pass to put him through was terrible..
 

Jake Reeves

He was excellent when he came on, great on the ball and distribution, got stuck in, added energy. Also flicked the ball over and ran past their player to win the ball at least twice with ease.
 

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bees66 said:
Dallas pass to put him through was terrible..
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Leave it out, terrible ? No chance, yes he could have put more weight on the pass but it was only half a yard or so short, would have been a cracking pass if it came off.
 

Jake Reeves

His best sub appearance of the season today. On form, his passing gives us something we don't have from any other player. Well done Jake.
 

Jake Reeves

I have been disappointed with his recent cameos but he was better today, still want to see him consistently making an impact.
 

Jake Reeves

He keeps changing my mind. When he first burst on the scene had really high hopes. Earlier this season I had my doubts but today he was excellent. Keep up the good work Jake.
 

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..........another decent cameo...............
 

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Brentford_till_die said:
Leave it out, terrible ? No chance, yes he could have put more weight on the pass but it was only half a yard or so short, would have been a cracking pass if it came off.
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it was terrible, it was 2 Brentford players to 1 Bradford player.. jake was clean through..
 

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Indian Bee said:
Best I've seen Reeves play since Sheff Utd away last year.
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Agreed.

He hasn't shown enough in his little cameos, or when he has started, to start games before Saville, Forshaw, Dougie, Judge and McCormack. I'd evedn add Toumani too. I just don't think he has enough to make it further, which is where we want to go, sadly.
 
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