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John Docherty (retired)

I would like to wish our former player & manager John Docherty a happy 70th birthday on thursday 29th april.
John must go down as a bees legend for his goal at Cardiff in the cup run of 70/71 as well as his crosses for John O'Mara in 71/72 but also for the fact that he signed for us 3 times & then went on to become manager.
Happy birthday John
 

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Gosport Bee said:
. . . but also for the fact that he signed for us 5 times in total including manager and later assistant manager to Frank McLintock.
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Amended a little for you :)
 

John Docherty (retired)

blimey I am getting old, 70? Happy birthday wee man :)
 

John Docherty (retired)

Many happy returns - a Bees legend for sure!
 

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Gosport Bee said:
I would like to wish our former player & manager John Docherty a happy 70th birthday on thursday 29th april.
John must go down as a bees legend for his goal at Cardiff in the cup run of 70/71 as well as his crosses for John O'Mara in 71/72 but also for the fact that he signed for us 3 times & then went on to become manager.
Happy birthday John
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And assistant manager

Happy birthday John
 

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Happy Birthday to my first Bees Hero. Saw many many good John Docherty goals, including the one at Cardiff mentioned in the first post. It came in from the wing, stuck in the mud about a foot from the goal line, and John simply side footed it into the net. Giant killing complete. I was 10 yards away and will never forget it.

Thanks John - have a great Birthday. :love2:
 

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love and mercy said:
Dont think he is in very good health now.
Seem to remember him having a stroke a few years back.
Another bees legend
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I was talking to him at a party just after Christmas and he was in fine form... and full of stories about his time(s) at Brentford.
 

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Idaho Bee said:
Happy Birthday to my first Bees Hero. Saw many many good John Docherty goals, including the one at Cardiff mentioned in the first post. It came in from the wing, stuck in the mud about a foot from the goal line, and John simply side footed it into the net. Giant killing complete. I was 10 yards away and will never forget it.

Thanks John - have a great Birthday. :love2:
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Me too. I was in Cardiff for that great day.

I was really mumpy when we sold him to Reading. But he came back!

Happy 70th, John!!!!
 

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JimP said:
I was talking to him at a party just after Christmas and he was in fine form... and full of stories about his time(s) at Brentford.
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Maybe you should have put him in touch with Northampton Bee.
 

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We have a holiday home in Brittany and have just met our new British neighbours George and Maggie over Christmas. We had already discovered a curious number of coincidences between us, including the fact that George once worked for the same company I currently work for - then the subject of football came up.

I wasn't expecting much of a reception to the revelation that I am a Bee, given that apparently Maggie's son decided a few years ago to support a "small and unfashionable" club as a response to the fact that everyone else he knew seemed to support Man United. That insignificant club: Blackburn Rovers.

However, the response from George came like a bolt from the blue:

"Does the name John Docherty mean anything to you?"
"Most certainly - one of the all-time Brentford legends and a real hero to me"
"Well, John Docherty is my cousin"

Seemingly John is not very well at the moment but I am not giving up on his visiting George some time so I can say hello.

Now I have been trying to look up the Doc's footballing career. I have been surprised at the lack of information on the internet.

It was a long time ago but I seem to recall that he played for us on three different occasions and played for Reading at some time, possibly in the interim, but George said no. Possibly then I have mixed Reading up with Cambridge.

Apparently John played for Sheffield United at some time, but I cannot find any record of that either.

I shall have to keep looking.
 

John Docherty (retired)

Clubs played for: Brentford, Sheffield United, Brentford, Reading, Brentford (1960-1973)

Biography: Had three playing stints with Brentford and went on to manage Millwall and Slough Town. He now lives in retirement in Wiltshire. (Division Two runner up with Sheffield United in 1961)
 

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I seem to have recollections of him managing Cambridge for some reason?
 

John Docherty (retired)

As mentioned somewhere else recently... A legend at Millwall too where I think Wikipedia states he took them to their highest ever finish. Get well soon Doc.
 

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absenteebee said:
As mentioned somewhere else recently... A legend at Millwall too where I think Wikipedia states he took them to their highest ever finish. Get well soon Doc.
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Pretty sure he had two stints as Millwall Manager as well.
 

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absenteebee said:
As mentioned somewhere else recently... A legend at Millwall too where I think Wikipedia states he took them to their highest ever finish. Get well soon Doc.
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In his second season as manager, Millwall won the Second Division championship and gained promotion to the top flight of English football for the first time in the club's history.. Paul Stephenson scored their 1st ever goal I believe..
 

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im sure he scored the only goal in the cup against Workington 1970ish
 

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yes the Workington game was a tad dryer lol
 

John Docherty (retired)

Born: Glasgow d.o.b: 29 April 1940

Position: Right Wing

Teams Seasons Apps. Gls.
Source : St. Roch's
Brentford 60-61 17 2
Sheffield United 60-66 41 9
Brentford 65-68 97 31
Reading 67-70 46 7
Brentford 70-74 141 34

Appointed Mgr. of Brentford ( 1975-76 )
 

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. . . and was assistant manager to Frank McClintock in the 80s.
 

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I remember john Docherty making his debut for Brentford in a friendly against Portsmouth. At the time he looked like a young schoolboy but he could really play and after playing less than 20 games he was sold to Sheffield United for a reported fee of £17,000 in or about 1961. That was a huge fee in those days for such an untried young player. At Sheffield United he was to understudy the great Welsh International winger, Len Alchurch. There he certainly learned how to score from one on one's for to this day he remains the best exponent of that art that I have ever seen in a Brentford shirt.

John Docherty did, indeed, manage Cambridge United and was successful in getting them into what is now the Championship and keeping them there for several years.. Years later in the 1984-5 season he was instrumental in Brentford signing Andy Sinton ( a future England international) and Robbie Cooke (now the chief scout at Manchester United) from Cambridge United.
 

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He and John O'Mara were a great twosome up front until O'Mara was sold to Blackburn Rovers. I remember John Docherty scoring the only goal against Gillingham at the Priestfield the only thing is I didn't see the goal. I arrived late and saw him running back to the centre circle having just scored.
 

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tinman said:
He and John O'Mara were a great twosome up front until O'Mara was sold to Blackburn Rovers. I remember John Docherty scoring the only goal against Gillingham at the Priestfield the only thing is I didn't see the goal. I arrived late and saw him running back to the centre circle having just scored.
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The Evening Mail a long defunct local paper around Staines and Ashford local area did a great caricature of Little John and Big John recreating a goal resulting from a cross from a tiny John Doc with John O'Mara bullet header.
 

John Docherty (retired)

Was at both games but the stand out goal for me was his hatrick one against York City. It was a Tuesday night game we were 5-1 up and then York scored three in four minutes to get back to 5-4 until Doc broke away to make it 6-4. Possibly one of the best games seen at GP.
 

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TW1Bee said:
Was at both games but the stand out goal for me was his hatrick one against York City. It was a Tuesday night game we were 5-1 up and then York scored three in four minutes to get back to 5-4 until Doc broke away to make it 6-4. Possibly one of the best games seen at GP.
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I still remember my Dad coming back from that match.

"How did they get on Dad"?

"Let in four....................................................... scored six"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Newport Pagnell Bee said:
I still remember my Dad coming back from that match.

"How did they get on Dad"?

"Let in four....................................................... scored six"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That's weird, remember it like yesterday when my Dad poked his head into our bedroom and in the dark said something
very similar. School night and we were very young so only allowed night games on half term back then.
 
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sonofabee said:
That's weird, remember it like yesterday when my Dad poked his head into our bedroom and in the dark said something
very similar. School night and we were very young so only lowed night games on half term back then.
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Really weired cos I remeber it so clearly too although I can't remember what year that was. I'm 56 now but don't think my older brothers went either. Can only remember Dad coming back. If West Wilts reads this he may remember more!
 

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Newport Pagnell Bee said:
Really weired cos I remeber it so clearly too although I can't remember what year that was. I'm 56 now but don't think my older brothers went either. Can only remember Dad coming back. If West Wilts reads this he may remember more!
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I'm 51 and would hazard a guess I was 7 or 8 so 1969/70?
 

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1970, I was there, only 3 months old......
Doc was the man
 

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Re. Him not being well...

what's up?
 

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TW1Bee said:
Was at both games but the stand out goal for me was his hatrick one against York City. It was a Tuesday night game we were 5-1 up and then York scored three in four minutes to get back to 5-4 until Doc broke away to make it 6-4. Possibly one of the best games seen at GP.
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I think that was the only home league game I missed in 5 years or so - school committment of some sort - and it still irritates me now to have missed a 10-goal game
 

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Brain-dead Bee said:
I think that was the only home league game I missed in 5 years or so - school committment of some sort - and it still irritates me now to have missed a 10-goal game
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You weren't at Crewe either in the '80's (not sure without looking it up for the year). Sweetzer hatrick in our 4-6 win.
 

John Docherty (retired)

I have great memories of him too. Get well soon John.
 

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Match against York. Did Paul Bence get one that night, possibly the fifth??
 

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He also used to manage QPR's under 16's, I think they were called Greenford Greenvale. I remember getting beaten about 9-0 by them. My best mate played in goal and without him it would have been about 20-0. I remember John saying "well played keeper" after the game.
 

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anyone know how John is doing these days?
 

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Hope he is OK. Great player for us in his time and shame it didn't work out for him as manager although he had great success at Millwall and Cambridge.
 

John Docherty (retired)

One of my childhood heroes. I'll never forget that sidefoot goal he scored against Cardiff in thst FA Cup run.
 

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I heard that he was very unwell I am afraid.
 
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