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Keep or Clear Off

Which of the current squad would you keep or show the door (providing they havent got a long contract) in the summer. Mine is as follows (not inc loanees)

GK

Abbey. Good allround keeper KEEP
Nelson. On and Off form mostly frustrating CLEAR OFF
Masters. Clearly thinks hes better than Brentford CLEAR OFF

DEF

Tillen. How did he ever join Chelsea? were they blind CLEAR OFF
Frampton. All heart if not all skill . 100%er. Left back not centre KEEP
Heywood. Too slow and sluggish. Injury prone. CLEAR OFF
OConnor. Loyal to bees , utility man , had 1 bad season KEEP
Charles. Not one for the future CLEAR OFF
Osbourne. Disappointing when had chance but might be ok KEEP
Griffiths. Good early season bad end. jury's out KEEP
MID

Brooker. How many times do we have to hear he's "experienced". CLEAR OFF
Keith. A winger who rarely beats anyone or crosses CLEAR OFF
Pinault. Not a tackler and not good enough creatively. CLEAR OFF
Mousinho. The worst midfielder ive ever seen. CLEAR OFF
Ide. Will get better in a better team KEEP

STR

Owusu. Out a long time. if stays fit will be ok. wages ? KEEP
Shipperley. Good hold up man . need goals though. CLEAR OFF
Kuffour. Has scored the goals in a bad team KEEP
Willock. A striker who couldnt strike a match CLEAR OFF

subs and reserves

Peters. No place for 1 run . Has had numerous chances. CLEAR OFF
Rhodes. Shame injury has wrecked the promise. CLEAR OFF
Carder-Andrews. Not seen enough but looked promising. KEEP
 
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Nathan Abbey - Keep
Stuart Nelson - Clear Off
Clark Masters - Keep

Andrew Frampton - Keep
Kevin O'Connor - Keep
Adam Griffiths - Keep
Matthew Heywood - Clear Off
Darius Charles - Keep
Karleigh Osborne - Keep
Sam Tillen - Clear Off

Joe Keith - Clear Off
Paul Brooker - Clear Off
Thomas Pinault - Clear Off
Michael Leary - Keep
John Mousinho - Keep
Charlie Ide - Keep

Lloyd Owusu - Keep
Jo Kuffour - Keep
Callum Willock - Clear Off
Neil Shipperely - Clear Off
Ryan Peters - Keep
Alex Rhodes - Keep
Karle Cader Andrews - Keep
 

Keep or Clear Off

Which of the current squad would you keep or show the door (providing they havent got a long contract) in the summer. Mine is as follows (not inc loanees)

GK

Abbey. Good allround keeper KEEP AGREE
Nelson. On and Off form mostly frustrating CLEAR OFF AGREE
Masters. Clearly thinks hes better than Brentford CLEAR OFF DISAGREE

DEF

Tillen. How did he ever join Chelsea? were they blind CLEAR OFF AGREE
Frampton. All heart if not all skill . 100%er. Left back not centre KEEP AGREE
Heywood. Too slow and sluggish. Injury prone. CLEAR OFF AGREE
OConnor. Loyal to bees , utility man , had 1 bad season KEEP DISAGREE
Charles. Not one for the future CLEAR OFF DISAGREE
Osbourne. Disappointing when had chance but might be ok KEEP AGREE
Griffiths. Good early season bad end. jury's out KEEP AGREE
MID

Brooker. How many times do we have to hear he's "experienced". CLEAR OFF AGREE
Keith. A winger who rarely beats anyone or crosses CLEAR OFF DISAGREE
Pinault. Not a tackler and not good enough creatively. CLEAR OFF AGREE
Mousinho. The worst midfielder ive ever seen. CLEAR OFF DISAGREE
Ide. Will get better in a better team KEEP AGREE

STR

Owusu. Out a long time. if stays fit will be ok. wages ? KEEP AGREE
Shipperley. Good hold up man . need goals though. CLEAR OFF AGREE
Kuffour. Has scored the goals in a bad team KEEP AGREE
Willock. A striker who couldnt strike a match CLEAR OFF AGREE

subs and reserves

Peters. No place for 1 run . Has had numerous chances. CLEAR OFF AGREE
Rhodes. Shame injury has wrecked the promise. CLEAR OFF AGREE
Carder-Andrews. Not seen enough but looked promising. KEEP AGREE
:wave:
 

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GK

Abbey. KEEP
Nelson. out of contract, bye bye
Masters. BACK UP

DEF

Tillen. CONTRACTED, who will want to take him off our hands
Frampton. KEEP, but sell if offer received
Heywood. see Tillen
OConnor. KEEP, but sell if offer received
Charles. bye bye
Osbourne. KEEP
Griffiths. out of contract, going back to AUS, bye bye
MID

Brooker. see Tillen
Keith. KEEP
Pinault. bye bye
Mousinho. KEEP, cheap, and does a job
Ide. KEEP, believe he has 6month contract left, accept offer if he does not re-sign

STR

Owusu. would love to Keep, but going, end of.
Shipperley. turning sour, bye bye
Kuffour. see Owusu
Willock. finally bye bye

subs and reserves

Peters. no more a footballer than me, bye bye
Rhodes. bye bye
Carder-Andrews. no idea, only seen him play for 20 minutes


Leary - KEEP, need a midfielder
Richards - no chance of Col Utd letting him go.
 

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GK

Abbey. Keep, he's been quite brilliant at time
Nelson. Keep, maybe be arrogant but not a bad 2nd choice keeper
Masters. One of the worst goalkeepers i've ever seen, gotta go

DEF

Tillen. What a shame, looked so promising last season, has been poor though, he should go
Frampton. Keep, think he'd make an ok league 2 left back
Heywood. gotta go, way to slow
OConnor. Keep, poor season but he's obviously a confidence player
Charles. Have no idea, not seen enough of
Osbourne. Keep, looks like he could be a good CENTRE BACK one day
Griffiths. Keep, he'd be a very good leageu 2 CB in my opinion

Brooker. Keep, i'm one of his very few fans
Keith. Get rid, obviously past it
Pinault. Keep, i don't think hes that bad...
Mousinho. Keep, truly dedicated to the course, although terrible footballer
Ide. KEEP, our best thing to come out of a terrible season
Leary. Get rid, got worse and worse
STR

Owusu. Keep, i don't think he will go anyway
Shipperley. Get rid, looked like he could have done the job earlier on, has got worse though, no goals and to fat
Kuffour. Keep, been our only source of goals this season
Willock. terrible, just go

subs and reserves

Peters. Keep, still young considering the amount of time he's been at Brentford
Rhodes. Get rid, what a shame
Carder-Andrews. Keep, Is he old enough to be playing for Brentford?
 

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GK

Abbey. KEEP
Nelson. Bye
Masters. Bye
Brown. Keep

DEF

Tillen. If we can then :wave: if not then KEEP.
Frampton. If a big offer come then accept if not keep
Heywood. Keep
OConnor. Same as Frampton
Charles. Keep
Osbourne. Get Rid
Griffiths. :wave:
MID

Brooker. :wave:
Keith. KEEP
Pinault. :wave:
Mousinho. KEEP
Ide. Keep

STR

Owusu. Keep
Shipperley. :wave:
Kuffour. Keep
Willock. (Non League for Him what a waste of 50,000)

Subs and reserves

Peters. :wave:
Rhodes. Grays for you!!
Carder-Andrews. Keep



Leary - KEEP, need a midfielder
Richards - no chance of Col Utd letting him go.
 

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These are the players I would keep. I haven`t included the players who ain`t going to stay. There is also a MAJOR problem in that some of the players who have let the club down are on contract for next season and beyond in some cases.

Abbey
Masters - cheap
Osbourne- cheap
Charles - cheap
Mousinho - cheap
Ide - cheap
Carder-Andrews - cheap
Frampton - I still a little hope for him as a full back with quick CBs.

I would also change the coaching structure and have a new manager and player coach in support. Can`t afford another coach who isn`t playing. ala Reeves & Mortimer.lol lol lol lol lol lol
 

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Can't believe some people want to keep Grifiiths?

I think we'll only keep Ide out of the ones I want to stay.
 

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Nelson - CLEAR OFF (We probably can't afford him, bit wreckless at times)
Abbey - KEEP (Showed what a professional player is all about)
Masters - KEEP (Potential)
Brown - Haven't ot a clue

Charles - KEEP (potentially a very very good left back, watch this space)
Osborne - KEEP (Could be a decent Centre back in time)
O'Connor - KEEP (He may gain his confidence in league 2 with a new manager)
Frampton - CLEAR OUT (How many goals has he cost us :eek: )
Tillen - KEEP (Honestly think he could be a good left winger under the right manager)
Heywood - CLEAR OUT
Griffiths - CLEAR OUT
Richads - DREAM ON

Keith - Undecided
Brooker - KEEP (Until his contract runs out, 1 year left??, love him or hate him he's still the most creative player we have if you look at the stats)
Pinault - KEEP (Playing alongside a decent defensive midfielder could be decent, rate him more then Leary)
Leary - CLEAR OUT (He bings fouls and yellow cards to the team)
Ide - KEEP (Once his final ball is improved he'll be a good player)
Rhodes - KEEP (Maybe give him one last chance under a new manager, striker?)
Carder - KEEP (Highly rated but yet to produce for the first team or play)

Owusu - KEEP (Although he's probably gone)
Kuffour - KEEP (bye bye in anycase)
Shipperley - CLEAR OFF (and return the money)
Willock - Undecided (Scored quite a few goals in League 2 before)
 

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Where there are contracts, we have no choice unless someone takes them off our hands, so O'Connor, Frampton, Heywood, Brooker, Mousinho, Tillen and (I think) Carder-Andrews are with us. None of them are bad enough for it to make sense to pay up contracts (even if we could afford it)

Of the others, I'd like to keep Kuffour (but little hope of that) and Ide shows promise; I'd also like to keep Richards, but that's not our decision. Frankly, beyond those 3 there is no-one whose departure will upset me much at all.

Definite departures for me are Shipperley, Pinault, Griffiths, Rhodes, Peters, Willock and Leary.

If they cost the same, I'd keep Abbey ahead of Nelson, plus either Masters or Brown.
Keith might be worth another season if he's cheap.
Lloyd might be worth a season if he'll take a major cut in pay.
Osborne probably cheap enough to keep; Charles possibly the same
 

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These are the players I would keep. I haven`t included the players who ain`t going to stay. There is also a MAJOR problem in that some of the players who have let the club down are on contract for next season and beyond in some cases.

Abbey
Masters - cheap
Osbourne- cheap
Charles - cheap
Mousinho - cheap
Ide - cheap
Carder-Andrews - cheap
Frampton - I still a little hope for him as a full back with quick CBs.

I would also change the coaching structure and have a new manager and player coach in support. Can`t afford another coach who isn`t playing. ala Reeves & Mortimer.lol lol lol lol lol lol


this is all i'd keep from the current squad too.

i don't agree with some peoples opinions of Masters...................

The rest of the squad out of contract can just p!ss off and the ones still in contract should hold their heads in shame and tear them up in front of the fans at the last home game................................
 

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As I am not au-fait with the contract situation I shall ignore that, this is more a wish list:

GK
Nelson - Keep
Abbey - Keep
Masters - Leave (opp for fee?)

Def
Frampton - Keep (if offerin then go)
KOC - Keep
Heywood - Go
Griifiths - Go
Tillen - GO
Osborne - Keep
Charels - Keep

Mid
Mousinho - Keep
Leary - GO
Keith - Go
Brooker - Go
Ide - Keep

Str
Kuffour - Keep
Owusu - Keep
Rhodes - Go
Shipperley (keep only as player coach??)
Peters - Go

From this we need some midfielders and defenders (just like last year) - they also need to be pacy...

As I said, it's a wish list...:D
 

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GK

Abbey. Keep, he's been quite brilliant at time
Nelson. Keep, maybe be arrogant but not a bad 2nd choice keeper
Masters. One of the worst goalkeepers i've ever seen, gotta go

DEF

Tillen. What a shame, looked so promising last season, has been poor though, he should go
Frampton. Keep, think he'd make an ok league 2 left back
Heywood. gotta go, way to slow
OConnor. Keep, poor season but he's obviously a confidence player
Charles. Have no idea, not seen enough of
Osbourne. Keep, looks like he could be a good CENTRE BACK one day
Griffiths. Keep, he'd be a very good leageu 2 CB in my opinion

Brooker. Keep, i'm one of his very few fans
Keith. Get rid, obviously past it
Pinault. Keep, i don't think hes that bad...
Mousinho. Keep, truly dedicated to the course, although terrible footballer
Ide. KEEP, our best thing to come out of a terrible season
Leary. Get rid, got worse and worse
STR

Owusu. Keep, i don't think he will go anyway
Shipperley. Get rid, looked like he could have done the job earlier on, has got worse though, no goals and to fat
Kuffour. Keep, been our only source of goals this season
Willock. terrible, just go

subs and reserves

Peters. Keep, still young considering the amount of time he's been at Brentford
Rhodes. Get rid, what a shame
Carder-Andrews. Keep, Is he old enough to be playing for Brentford?

Totally agree!!
 

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Totally agree!!

A BIG clearout is what's needed but can you really trust Dyke and Dickens to appoint a manager ?......not on their track record this season. As for the players, I would only keep-

Abbey
Masters
O'Connor
Ide
Owusu
Kuffour

The last 2 are almost certain to leave so that leaves a very small squad.

Of the leavers - Leary / Richards are loan players - Shipps needs to go on celebrity fit club and Keith is a one gear plodder.

Nelson -plese leave ASAP
Frampton - not good enough
Pinault - Fitz clearly doesn't like him - maybe a new Manager will see his potential.
Heywood - not really seen him at his best
Brooker - needs to play for a football team -not a hoof ball team
Mousino - Ryman league
 

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This thread is highly amusing. The only playing we can decide to "keep" are the ones contracted to us for next season, namely:

O'Connor, Heywood, Frampton, Mousinho, Tillen, Carder-Andrews and Brooker.
 

Keep or Clear Off

This thread is highly amusing. The only playing we can decide to "keep" are the ones contracted to us for next season, namely:

O'Connor, Heywood, Frampton, Mousinho, Tillen, Carder-Andrews and Brooker.


Full of good news you are mate.:( ;)

Mark how realistically can we try and move contracted players on? Or should we just accept the nightmare scenerio?
 

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Mark how realistically can we try and move contracted players on? Or should we just accept the nightmare scenerio?
It's up to the manager, whoever that is, for next season. I would try and flog Frampton and O'Connor and try to reach a settlement with Brooker.

That would free up some £££ for forwards. Make no mistake, next season is going to be a real struggle, we need bottle and character and that is sadly lacking at present.
 

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Keep List

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Keep or Clear Off

StormBee--OUT
Brentford Till Die---KEEP (on less money)
Mads Bee--KEEP
Maddogging---OUT (to MK DONS)
Up NorthBee--KEEP
Superbees2ks--OUT
London Dude--OUT
ACE FACE---OUT (come to some kind of mutual agreement asap) :fishing:
Beeehive---OUT
Brain Dead Bee---KEEP
WandererPaul---OUT
CheekyBee74--OUT-has no future in the game
Shouldbee----OUT
MarkBFC-----ASK THE CLUB
No Coat------Is he still here ?
 

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This thread is highly amusing. The only playing we can decide to "keep" are the ones contracted to us for next season, namely:

O'Connor, Heywood, Frampton, Mousinho, Tillen, Carder-Andrews and Brooker.

So the manager cannot offer a contract to any of the others then Mark?:D

Thats a shame, I would have liked to have seen Abbey, Keith, Ide and Kuffour offered a contract for next season.
 

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StormBee--OUT
Brentford Till Die---KEEP (on less money)
Mads Bee--KEEP
Maddogging---OUT (to MK DONS)
Up NorthBee--KEEP
Superbees2ks--OUT
London Dude--OUT
ACE FACE---OUT (come to some kind of mutual agreement asap) :fishing:
Beeehive---OUT
Brain Dead Bee---KEEP
WandererPaul---OUT
CheekyBee74--OUT-has no future in the game
Shouldbee----OUT
MarkBFC-----ASK THE CLUB
No Coat------Is he still here ?

lol lol

Oh its 'ASK THE CLUB :banghead:' for future reference!!!:D
 

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StormBee--OUT
Brentford Till Die---KEEP (on less money)
Mads Bee--KEEP
Maddogging---OUT (to MK DONS)
Up NorthBee--KEEP
Superbees2ks--OUT
London Dude--OUT
ACE FACE---OUT (come to some kind of mutual agreement asap) :fishing:
Beeehive---OUT
Brain Dead Bee---KEEP
WandererPaul---OUT
CheekyBee74--OUT-has no future in the game
Shouldbee----OUT
MarkBFC-----ASK THE CLUB
No Coat------Is he still here ?

lol excellent, I shall be looking down and laughing on you lot next season from the world renowned 'Cowshed' ! Martin Allen's franchise army !:wave:
 

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Owusu. would love to Keep, but going, end of.
QUOTE]

Why so sure he will leave. Earning good bucks at a club that adore him, the spells away from Brentford wern't great all in all....
He'll have a great year next season.
 

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Owusu. would love to Keep, but going, end of.
QUOTE]

Why so sure he will leave. Earning good bucks at a club that adore him, the spells away from Brentford wern't great all in all....
He'll have a great year next season.

Reliable rumours says he has agreed to sign for another club as well as Kuffour.
 

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Nathan Abbey - Keep
Stuart Nelson - Keep
Clark Masters - Clear

Andrew Frampton - Keep
Kevin O'Connor - Keep
Adam Griffiths - Keep
Matthew Heywood - Clear
Darius Charles - Keep
Karleigh Osborne - Keep
Sam Tillen - Clear

Joe Keith - Clear
Paul Brooker - Clear
Thomas Pinault - Clear
Michael Leary - Keep
John Mousinho - Keep
Charlie Ide - Keep

Lloyd Owusu - Keep
Jo Kuffour - Keep
Callum Willock - Clear
Neil Shipperely - Clear
Ryan Peters - Clear
Alex Rhodes - Clear
Karle Cader Andrews - ?
 

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Owusu. would love to Keep, but going, end of.
QUOTE]

Why so sure he will leave. Earning good bucks at a club that adore him, the spells away from Brentford wern't great all in all....
He'll have a great year next season.

you answered your own question, 'earning good bucks', well those good bucks are soon going to end, then we will see where his loyalty lies. I personally would wish nothing more than a bit of payback, and show there is still some loyalty in football by saying I will give you another year as you stood by me with my injury last April, but I think we all know that loyalty went out of football many 'alfie' moons ago.
 

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GK

Abbey. Good allround keeper KEEP
Nelson. Passion for the club and is getting better KEEP
Masters. Got alot of potential and could one day be worth alot but if we probably can't afford his wages CLEAR OFF

DEF

Tillen. Was good Once CLEAR OFF
Frampton. Has played well at times, should be captainKEEP
Heywood. Injury prone. To expensive CLEAR OFF
OConnor. Loyal to bees , utility man, had 1 bad season KEEP
Charles. Not one for the future CLEAR OFF
Osbourne. Has shown signs of potential, probably lower wages due to age KEEP
Griffiths. Has lost form, can't afford to keep plus http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/48516,jets-to-sign-brentford-star.aspxKEEP
MID

Brooker. Too expensive, he can beat players, but will then get muscled out, or lose the ball. Not intelligant enough. CLEAR OFF
Keith. Might be better in league two KEEP
Pinault. Not a tackler, creativity is only good thing. CLEAR OFF
Mousinho. Improved so much since Gillingham heroics, will only get better KEEP
Ide. So much potential...KEEP AT ALL COSTS
STR

Owusu. Has played well since injury, if he takes a pay cut then KEEP
Shipperley. Too old and isn't scoring. CLEAR OFF
Kuffour. Has scored the goals in a bad team, has huge influence KEEP
Willock. Determined but it's a hard bussiness CLEAR OFF

subs and reserves

Peters. No place for 1 run . Has had numerous chances. CLEAR OFF
Rhodes. Shame injury has wrecked the promise. CLEAR OFF
Carder-Andrews. Not seen enough but looked promising. KEEP
 

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Ideally

GK
Nelson - Keep
Abbey - Keep (though probably can only keep one)
Masters - Leave

Def
Frampton - Keep
KOC - Keep (Probably best for him to go)
Heywood - Go
Griifiths - Go
Tillen - GO
Osborne - Keep (Perhaps)
Charels - Go

Mid
Mousinho - Keep. Cheap
Leary - GO
Keith - Go
Brooker - Go
Ide - Keep

Str
Kuffour - He'll go
Owusu - Go
Rhodes - Go
Shipperley Go
Peters - Go


We need / will get an almost total clearout
 

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This thread is highly amusing. The only playing we can decide to "keep" are the ones contracted to us for next season, namely:

O'Connor, Heywood, Frampton, Mousinho, Tillen, Carder-Andrews and Brooker.

this is worse than i thought.

i can't believe at this early stage of his extremely promising career
we haven't got charlie ide under contract

regardless of who the hell the manager is,
this needs to be rectified
 

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Abbey
Masters
O'Connor
Ide
Owusu
Kuffour
I agree with most of that although I'd ditch O'C, he's looking a real liability lately every time the ball comes near him. I'd also keep Nelson as he's a good 2nd choice but Christ only knows why he was played first choice on Sunday, Abbey's done a great job so far and to switch him out now when he looks so much more confident is utter stupidity.
I'd keep Shipperley as the player/coach person to assist the manager actually. He has a very sound tactical brain, if not quite the body to go with it.

As far as I can tell, the 'board' couldn't keep hold of our talented players even if someone else did all the work for them and they just had to put a X at the bottom of each page of the contracts.
 

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What's the deal with the Mousinho love in? The bloke is terrible! Had to laugh at this statement:

''Committed to the cause but an awful footballer''lol

Jesus what do you want him here for-painting the braemar road with gutso? Serving in the club shop with passion?

I know he's contracted but we really should try and get rid of him
 

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GK
Nelson - Keep
Abbey - Keep
Masters - out

Def
Frampton - Keep
KOC - Keep
Heywood - Go
Griifiths - Go
Tillen - GO
Osborne - Keep
Charels - Go

Mid
Mousinho - Keep
Leary - GO
Keith - keep
Brooker - Go
Ide - Keep

Str
Kuffour - keep
Owusu - keep
Rhodes - Go
Shipperley keep
Peters - Go
 

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Oh dear ! :nono: :wave:

He can get past players, but then doesn't know what to do and just makes some awful pass or falls over. If he just took the simple option (when there is one) he'd be a much better player
 

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Masters. Clearly thinks hes better than Brentford CLEAR OFF


To be fair to him he still turns up to every game when hes not in the squad not like others...
 

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The only playing we can decide to "keep" are the ones contracted to us for next season, namely:

O'Connor, Heywood, Frampton, Mousinho, Tillen, Carder-Andrews and Brooker.

I was hoping there was some kind of light at the end of the tunnell :(

ironic how Kev, Framps and Tillen since signing the improved deals have been a bag of spanners.
 

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Nathan Abbey - Keep
Stuart Nelson - Clear
Clark Masters - Clear

Andrew Frampton - Keep but accept any offers
Kevin O'Connor - Keep but accept any offers
Adam Griffiths - Clear
Matthew Heywood - Clear
Darius Charles - Keep
Karleigh Osborne - Keep
Sam Tillen - Clear

Joe Keith - Clear
Paul Brooker - Clear
Thomas Pinault - Clear
Michael Leary - Clear
John Mousinho - Clear
Charlie Ide - Keep if we have the chance

Lloyd Owusu - Clear
Jo Kuffour - Keep but he's gone anyway
Callum Willock - Clear
Neil Shipperely - Clear
Ryan Peters - Clear
Alex Rhodes - Clear
Karle Cader Andrews - Keep
 

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Could be worse..............we could be bottom of the league !


Ah ! sh*t ! Rotherham have just scored against Blackpool. :(


All this talk of players...........what about the Manager ? :wave:
 

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He can get past players, but then doesn't know what to do and just makes some awful pass or falls over. If he just took the simple option (when there is one) he'd be a much better player



...............I think the 'Oh dear' was aimed at your spelling of the word 'intelligent'.............
 
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