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I would say that Warburton will not see Palace as much different to us so it wouldn't attract him. There's a few middle ranking Premiership clubs that might be of interest but he will need to think long and hard about whether he will get the support he currently gets. He's quick to point out to players that the grass isn't always greener and I suspect he strongly believes that about himself. Also, importantly, it would appear that money doesn't drive him as much as it might others.
 

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I think that taking an unfashionable small club from the third tier to the Premier League with a significant input in most departments would be difficult to beat.
 

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I think we're at the point where he will start getting linked for quite a few jobs...just means what we're doing here is right :sorted:

He, pretty much in his own words is aware the grass isn't always greener on the other side. I would only expect a club like Palace would fit into that...
 

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Isn't Warburton a wealthy bloke already?

If Palace do come knocking he might be better off waiting for a bigger club. But in football you can go from being a hot property to a nobody very quickly, so the alternative view would be that he should grab the chance while it's there.
 

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Isn't Warburton a wealthy bloke already?

If Palace do come knocking he might be better off waiting for a bigger club. But in football you can go from being a hot property to a nobody very quickly, so the alternative view would be that he should grab the chance while it's there.

I've always said the only job Warburton will leave us for is the England's job once Roy leaves..
 

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Pearce is on death row at Forest now...
 

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I would say that Warburton will not see Palace as much different to us so it wouldn't attract him. There's a few middle ranking Premiership clubs that might be of interest but he will need to think long and hard about whether he will get the support he currently gets. He's quick to point out to players that the grass isn't always greener and I suspect he strongly believes that about himself. Also, importantly, it would appear that money doesn't drive him as much as it might others.

In my opinion, for Warburton to leave the project would have to be very appealing with guaranteed time to bring in the right players for his style of football. Fingers crossed that doesn't happen and he can guide us to the Premier League as he has been brilliant for us.

To play Devil's Advocate though, if I was Palace (for example) Warburton would not appeal. He has no track record as a manager in dealing with a side low on confidence and form - he didn't need to change much when he took over last season. He isn't a firefighter/quick fix appointment. I am aware he assisted Forster but I don't know how much he did in that time.
 

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In my opinion, for Warburton to leave the project would have to be very appealing with guaranteed time to bring in the right players for his style of football. Fingers crossed that doesn't happen and he can guide us to the Premier League as he has been brilliant for us.

To play Devil's Advocate though, if I was Palace (for example) Warburton would not appeal. He has no track record as a manager in dealing with a side low on confidence and form - he didn't need to change much when he took over last season. He isn't a firefighter/quick fix appointment. I am aware he assisted Forster but I don't know how much he did in that time.

I think you're spot on with those observations re MW's potential suitability, or not, for Palace

The manager with the right profile for Palace is Pulis, but it does seem that bridges have been burned.
 

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Trouble for Olly at Millwall?

Amusing tweet from Danny Baker:

Danny Baker ‏@prodnose 30m30 minutes ago
Just heard Millwall are now "flirting with relegation". Flirting? We've been sending it pornographic selfies since October.
 

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Steve Bruce must be worried.
He seems next in the queue for the sack.
 

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What were Forest ever thinking of when they made that appointment?

Ex-player with a reputation for passion who's managed at a higher level?

(I think he's a sh*t manager btw)
 

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They let their heart rule their head.

He is a hero there and experience at City and International level so logical option but obviously something not right there. Better Managers have failed there in recent years, I think it's too easy to blame it all on Pearce. I don't rate him either!
 

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He is a hero there and experience at City and International level so logical option but obviously something not right there. Better Managers have failed there in recent years, I think it's too easy to blame it all on Pearce. I don't rate him either!

Agreed lot more going on behind the scenes unsealing things I would imagine
 

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Fair play to Forest fans they were still pretty supportive of Pearce after yesterday's defeat.

I think Olly is one of the next to go, either sacked or he'll walk away, he seems drained in his post match interviews at the moment. He actually looks unwell.
 

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Agreed lot more going on behind the scenes unsealing things I would imagine

This is from Simon Kuper writing in the FT.


I began thinking harder about football managers in 2007, when I met the sports economist Stefan Szymanski at a conference in Istanbul. Over beers in the Istanbul Hilton, and later while writing our book Soccernomics together, I realised that Stefan brought an almost unique quality to football talk: everyone had opinions but Stefan could back his up with data. He’d calculated that most managers barely mattered. Far more telling was money: typically, the more a club paid its players, the higher it finished in the league. Perhaps 90 per cent of managers added no value to the wage bill and might as well be replaced with stuffed teddy bears.

So next Forest manager could be a teddy bear.

Where we are different is firstly the owner and manager have a shared, long term strategy. And second MW has extensive commercial experience in people management acquired in a hot house environment. I can't think of another manager who has this. His people and communication skills are very good.

For these reasons I believe he will stay. Our job is to support him and the players when the going gets tough. It was great yesterday that the players got such a good reception from us at the end of a match. I am sure that meant a lot to them. As do they applauding us.
 

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warburton 20/1 to be next palace manager

can't imagine it personally
Parrish is panicking.

I'd guess he is desperate for an experienced Manager who knows the Premier League and has experience of keeping clubs up - hence his last two appointements (Pulis and Warnock).

So even if he rates MW, there must be a good few other candidates who more closely fit the required profile?
 

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Pardew is allegedly attracting some attention with regards to the Palace job
 

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Fair play to Forest fans they were still pretty supportive of Pearce after yesterday's defeat.

I think Olly is one of the next to go, either sacked or he'll walk away, he seems drained in his post match interviews at the moment. He actually looks unwell.

Forest Owners in no mood for changes at the top.
They are wealthy in the field of world wide refridgration transportation.
And big fridge magnets tend to stick.
 

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Pardew is allegedly attracting some attention with regards to the Palace job

I reckon Mike Ashley will be quite happy with this. Instead of having to sack Pardew at some point and paying a shed load of compensation he is now going to get a couple of million from Palace for a manager he probably deep down doesn't really want any more.
 

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I reckon Mike Ashley will be quite happy with this. Instead of having to sack Pardew at some point and paying a shed load of compensation he is now going to get a couple of million from Palace for a manager he probably deep down doesn't really want any more.

I think Pardew's done pretty well for him and getting compensation is a right result for him as well.
 

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I reckon Mike Ashley will be quite happy with this. Instead of having to sack Pardew at some point and paying a shed load of compensation he is now going to get a couple of million from Palace for a manager he probably deep down doesn't really want any more.

Tend to agree. I think Pardew still has at least 5 years of his contract to run.
 

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Contracted until 2020.

Strange one as the odds are very short on Pardew and bookies usually right. He's a Palace boy, born and bred locally as are a couple of his coaching staff so maybe there is something in it.
No denying he has done a really good job since his controversial appointment but still believe it was and is because it suited Ashley.
 

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A Manager can have a headline twenty year contract but if the "notice period in it is only six months" (allegedly/apparently !) then it's really a six month contract - eg I can't honestly believe that someone as astute as Mike Ashley would risk a bumper pay off at any stage ? :shrug:

Pardew was allegedly/apparently the lowest paid Premiership Manager at the time, Ashley's no mug.
 

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Hasn't Pardew got a debt that he is paying back to Ashley, will he be able to settle up quicker at Palace?
 

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Hasn't Pardew got a debt that he is paying back to Ashley, will he be able to settle up quicker at Palace?

I got shot down in flames by some when I suggested this recently but believe its no secret and that Ashley settled Pardews debt with Pardew paying back a big percentage of relatively low wages back to his mate.
 

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The cards are falling into place.
Warnock leaves.
Pardew to Palace
Bruce to Newcastle
Hill to Rochdale
Slade soon forgotten about after Christmas as usual.
 

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Irvine gone.
Chris Hughton to WBA ?

Maybe Pulis on 2nd thoughts.
 

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Gary Johnson must be on shaky ground. Done a phenomenal amount for them but Yeovil seem all over the place at present.
 

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Pulis won't go to WBA due to their structure, its' head coach not manager. Sherwood maybe?

McClaren to Newcastle a possibility.

Think Ollie will be gone by the weekend. Who knows who will take over down there.Pulis?
 

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Pulis won't go to WBA due to their structure, its' head coach not manager. Sherwood maybe?

McClaren to Newcastle a possibility.

Think Ollie will be gone by the weekend. Who knows who will take over down there.Pulis?

I wouldn't put too much significance into West Brom's continental structure, their chairman has just said they will do whatever it takes to stay in the Premiership, and that points clearly to appointing Pulis. He'll want an environment where he can do his job, have a clear say over transfers and a decent budget.
McClaren should stay at Derby and get them promoted, but I can understand he would be tempted.
Bruce is a Newcastle supporter, could happen, but don't his sides always reach a level and then start going backwards after a couple of years or so? There will always be someone wanting to manage a football club that pack in 52,000 fans, but they will continue to go nowhere very much as long as Ashley is the owner.

Brighton should appoint Chris Hughton. He will stabilise the club on the field. The owners look right mugs for falling out with Poyet.

Millwall is a difficult job in the Championship. I wouldn't ditch 'Ollie at this point. A couple of decent incoming players could improve their fortunes. Who knows, maybe we could loan them some of ours? I mean, what is a replacement for 'Ollie really likely to achieve given the constraints they operate under?

Will be quite amusing if Pardew fails to keep Palace up, as he did with Charlton Athletic.
 

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I wouldn't put too much significance into West Brom's continental structure, their chairman has just said they will do whatever it takes to stay in the Premiership, and that points clearly to appointing Pulis. He'll want an environment where he can do his job, have a clear say over transfers and a decent budget.
McClaren should stay at Derby and get them promoted, but I can understand he would be tempted.
Bruce is a Newcastle supporter, could happen, but don't his sides always reach a level and then start going backwards after a couple of years or so? There will always be someone wanting to manage a football club that pack in 52,000 fans, but they will continue to go nowhere very much as long as Ashley is the owner.

Brighton should appoint Chris Hughton. He will stabilise the club on the field. The owners look right mugs for falling out with Poyet.

Millwall is a difficult job in the Championship. I wouldn't ditch 'Ollie at this point. A couple of decent incoming players could improve their fortunes. Who knows, maybe we could loan them some of ours? I mean, what is a replacement for 'Ollie really likely to achieve given the constraints they operate under?

Will be quite amusing if Pardew fails to keep Palace up, as he did with Charlton Athletic.

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Chris Hughton set to be named Brighton's manager...
 

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What's the story of Andy Woodman's unpopularity?

he could dish it out but when it was on the other foot he was a total bellend..
 
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