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Gee Bee said:
You can’t compare. Nolan was backed heavily last season and wheels fell off last few months. He then spends more in summer and isn’t just getting beaten but well beaten. There is an underlying issue imho. Whereas last season Brentford were playing well and anyone could see that despite points tally and Smith was working with one of lowest budgets in division. So no you can’t compare
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Sorry, not really the point I was trying to make. Nolan had been (relatively) successful, and could have expected a bit longer to turn things round, whatever the results were presently. If he wasn’t the right guy 5 games into the season, then he probably wasn’t during the summer either. That’s why October ( I think) is a dangerous month for struggling Managers. By sacking him now, the Club have automatically given the replacement a half dozen game handicap ( + pre-season + transfer window).
 

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JANORAK said:
Sorry, not really the point I was trying to make. Nolan had been (relatively) successful, and could have expected a bit longer to turn things round, whatever the results were presently. If he wasn’t the right guy 5 games into the season, then he probably wasn’t during the summer either. That’s why October ( I think) is a dangerous month for struggling Managers. By sacking him now, the Club have automatically given the replacement a half dozen game handicap ( + pre-season + transfer window).
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My point is that it’s not 5 games but a poor end of last and beginning of this despite the biggest budget. Once he started putting more of his own choices post January in the team they have gone backwards.
 

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JANORAK said:
Exactly. So he should have gone at the end of last season then...
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Possibly meaning that his sacking now isn’t knee jerk reaction
 

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nocoat said:
Famous boot room terrace wit spirit of shankley more than a football club etc blah walk on best fans in the world
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Yep exactly, all that bollixio gets spun out, truth is they had almost a couple of decades when they were the best side and then just returned to the rest of the division's level.
 

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Gee Bee said:
Possibly meaning that his sacking now isn’t knee jerk reaction
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Non-Bees fans looking at eg the departure of Warburton or the sacking of Marinus might consider both of those to have been harsh on the individuals involved.

So maybe there is a good reason for KN's dismissal that non-County fans do not understand. But if as you say, there were clear signs of problems at the end of last season, then this present sacking could not be considered "knee jerk". Rather it may be more the opposite i.e. a failure to face up to the problem as soon as it became apparent (possibly for fear of the fans' reaction?).

Who knows, but as ever with such cases, the performance (or otherwise) of the manager is only one half of the equation.

The other lies at the door of the people who sacked him. And the performance of the man they appoint to succeed Nolan should tell us more in that respect.

Meanwhile, if online fans' forums are ever to be believed(!), the reaction of County fans appears to be mixed:
https://prideofnottingham.co.uk/community/topic/6990-nolan-gone/

P.S. I wonder will Sol Campbell be applying to Meadow Lane? ;) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1208789/60k-week-Sol-Campbell-team-Sven-Goran-Eriksson-Notts-County.html
 

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Stuart McCall new manager of Scunthorpe
 

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Mad Billericay owner sacked head coach Harry Wheelerby text 5 minutes before the end of their first defeat of the season on Saturday!!
They won 3-2 today having been 2 down.
 

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sonofabee said:
He was being lauded as one of the most promising lower league managers in May, just shows what a fast changing and insecure profession.
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Every manager who wins 4-5 games gets this and then it reverts to the tough old job it is as a lower division manager and they get left by the wayside.
 

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RT said:
Jose got to be on thin ice now
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He is trying to make out he has not been supported in buying players, the truth is he has spent a fortune on underperformers like pogba and Sanchez and had totally ignored their desperate defence. Jones and smalling have proven to be championship cloggers for 5-6 years so how he can go into the season with these two as his pairing is quite staggering.
 

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Ashford Bees said:
Expect to see Zidane appointed in the coming weeks. Jose not the same since his first stint at Chelsea.
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He;s a spent force as a manager IMO unless he completely reinvents himself. Bitter, preoccupied with everyone else, seemingly able to fall out with players at the drop of a hat and plays one of the most attritional unwatchable brand of football.
 

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malagakid said:
Brendan Rodgers perfect for Man U imo
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Could be, He knows how to whinge well enough and blame everyone else when things don’t go his way which seems to be a required skill for the Manu job.
 

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Must know he's on his way after his emotional applauding of fans, at least those who didn't leave fifteen minutes before the end.
 

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The writing has been on the wall all summer IMO. And it's not a case that they've bought bad players, in fact since Mourinho took over the signings have been a lot better than under Van Gaal, Moyes etc. However the problem is that he turns good players into mediocre ones by forcing a rigidness in them that limits their creativity. He will be gone sooner rather than later, as always happens under him in the third season. Then Pogba, Sanchez etc should be able to do better and perform.

As for Notts County, a lot of their fans seem to defend the decision. A lot are saying they sort of lucked their way to a lot of their wins last season and the performances were never that good, and now that's just being found out. Notts have never been a particularly well run club though, they often expect themselves to be higher than they are with little reason or merit, and fire a manager if they don't achieve that (a bit like West Ham...)
 

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wibs said:
Kevin Nolan sacked from Notts County this morning.
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Back to Nolan's sacking...looking at the board of directors who will have made the decision I see one resigned yesterday saying "As an individual I need to be true to my own values and be honest enough to know when my ability to influence matters is restricted."

While the TV commentator Darren Fletcher has also been on the board for a year and presumably contributed to the decision. Interesting, as on his Twitter he came across as quite pally with Nolan, going horseracing etc with Nolan and others.
 

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Neil Harris gone from Millwall according to Twitter.
 

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TW3Bee said:
Neil Harris gone from Millwall according to Twitter.
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Blimey he has to have something lined up because despite some indifferent results they have been playing well
 

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Harris has been moaning a lot about Millwall's performances, but they've realistically just reverted to their true level after overperforming last season. They didn't strengthen enough over the summer.
 

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This is not the official Millwall twitter feed. It’s fake. Check the spelling of “Millwalll”
 

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alexcavell said:
Harris has been moaning a lot about Millwall's performances, but they've realistically just reverted to their true level after overperforming last season. They didn't strengthen enough over the summer.
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They have been unlucky as we were at start of last season and should have at least 3 points more. There will be something else behind this I’m sure.
 

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Yep, and that's the only source as far as I can see. Wouldn't make any sense anyway.
 

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Better off trusting the Millwall Twitter account that has over 43,000 tweets where this isn't mentioned than this one which has ..... one.
 

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I very much doubt that was their decision and think he’s very employable but a shame. They are in my bottom 3 for couple of season long bets so with their budget and without him I wish I included them in most of my bets.
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
Better off trusting the Millwall Twitter account that has over 43,000 tweets where this isn't mentioned than this one which has ..... one.
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If true that’s a big surprise, thuoght he was a Millwall man and a fans favourite
 

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Delbee said:
If true that’s a big surprise, thuoght he was a Millwall man and a fans favourite
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He’s actually a Liverpool fan as a kid and Southend fan when he wants to keep them happy.
 

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Notts County linked with Kewell, Ardley and Grayson....
 

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Harry Kewell new Notts County boss.
 

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TW3Bee said:
Which means that Crawley is looking for a new one.
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Apparently, Kevin Nolan is a candidate for the Crawley job!

Just to add to the Nolan debate, I saw them five times last season and each time they were dreadful, though they somehow managed to win or draw four of those games. The last one was their comprehensive defeat by Coventry in the play-off semi-final second leg.

The football was real prehistoric stuff which Notts fans accepted as long as they were near the top of the league but they spent a lot this summer and Nolan was unable to integrate the new players into his style of play and their results have been truly horrendous.
 

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Bagman said:
Bradford City sack head coach after six games.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45403103
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There's some top quality BBC journalism on that article. The headline and caption for the photo reads:

"Michael Collins: Bradford City sack head coach after six games. Michael Collins's record as Bradford boss ended as played seven, won two, drawn one, lost five."

Er...something doesn't add up there!!!
 

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Fat Bee Slim said:
There's some top quality BBC journalism on that article. The headline and caption for the photo reads:

"Michael Collins: Bradford City sack head coach after six games. Michael Collins's record as Bradford boss ended as played seven, won two, drawn one, lost five."

Er...something doesn't add up there!!!
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6 league games 1 cup game
 

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Fat Bee Slim said:
So how did he win 2, draw 1 and lose 5 then?!
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They've lost 4 not 5, probably counted the macc cup game twice, once as the draw in 90 mins and once as a pen shootout defeat.

I'm not willing to enter into any further correspondence on this matter.
 

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Former Livi boss David Hopkin in at Bradford City.
 

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Ex- Palace and Bradford midfielder. Good choice.
 

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Few suspects on here keeping quiet about the genius Pelligrini...
 
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