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mhead bee said:
I read somewhere that Rio F is on the short list to become the new DoF at Man Unt. When you look at our DoF and what they do for the club you do wonder what qualifies him to do anything at Man Unt. You always get that nonsense trotted out about having contacts at certain clubs but does it ereally work like that, most clubs have a data base of players being scouted and teams like Chelsea have 100 players out on loan to every club in the world, what does rtio's "contacts" actually do for him. The same goes for his uncle at QPR.
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I read somewhere that he's well in (personally) with the Glazers, who were said to be impressed by his acumen in business, specifically clothing and a restaurant.

A quick google reveals the following, but frankly, that's just a "puff" for both him and the website from what I can see - it doesn't actually say anything specific about RF's contribution:
https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/a-peek-into-rio-ferdinands-successful-ventures

Who knows, he may just be providing investment and a "celebrity" front, while it's others who actually run the businesses?

Either way, his appointment as DoF at Old Trafford would seem to be a helluva gamble, esp alongside a relatively untested manager in OGS.

Hope it all goes very pear-shaped.

And quickly.
 

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A lot of poor appointments/ signings on and off the pitch in recent years at Manu and this would be probably be another one. He would get the job on who he is and not what he is.
 

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IDontBeeLieveIt said:
Even if he has 8 zillion great contacts..........
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Having "contacts" on speed dial is fine if you need tickets to a game, or want to go out to dinner with them afterwards etc.

But actually negotiating multi-million pound contracts with their Agent/club/lawyer/personal adviser etc?

There are people in that industry who could buy and sell you without your even knowing they've done it.

And what international experience does he have (aside from half-assed stumbling around in an England shirt, while wondering who Man U have got at the weekend)?

You know, contract law and procedures, taxation, currency, money-laundering regs, UEFA/FIFA, languages etc
 

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mhead bee said:
I read somewhere that Rio F is on the short list to become the new DoF at Man Unt. When you look at our DoF and what they do for the club you do wonder what qualifies him to do anything at Man Unt. You always get that nonsense trotted out about having contacts at certain clubs but does it really work like that, most clubs have a database of players being scouted and teams like Chelsea have 100 players out on loan to every club in the world, what does rio's "contacts" actually do for him. The same goes for his uncle at QPR.
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It was a ‘Breaking News!’ headline on SSN yesterday... Could be a masterstroke by Sir Les. Get ManU to overpay for a collection of all the Poops has-beens, never-weres and you-must-be-jokings....
 

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Graeme Jones in at Luton. Tough gig for your first managers job
 

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maddogging said:
Graeme Jones in at Luton. Tough gig for your first managers job
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As ever very contradictory article in the Fai!.

Top of the article suggests the deal was done in March so he left West Brom bottom of the article says he left when Moore was sacked?
 

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Scott Parker confirmed as Fulham manager.
 

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Great record he had last time. 3 wins 6 losses. lol
 

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IDontBeeLieveIt said:
Great record he had last time. 3 wins 6 losses. lol
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I don't think Parker is a good appointment but I don't see what's funny about that, if my maths is correct if they carried out that 9 game form over the whole season they would of stayed up!
 

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Bobby Wilkinson has left his post as manager of Wealdstone.
 

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gbems92 said:
I don't think Parker is a good appointment but I don't see what's funny about that, if my maths is correct if they carried out that 9 game form over the whole season they would of stayed up!
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Sadly, I think it’s the right and a very shrewd appointment for Putney, They were already down before he took charge, I wish they’d appointed someone else
 

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gbems92 said:
I don't think Parker is a good appointment but I don't see what's funny about that, if my maths is correct if they carried out that 9 game form over the whole season they would of stayed up!
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I don't have a strong opinion on him personally (other than being a 100% effort player) but that's a dog awful record and even relegated Cardiff have done better proportionally with the dinosaur Mrs Doubtfire.
You appoint a spotty 12 year old who's done well at Football Manager for a few years and they'd probably do just as well (as that record).
Utd could have appointed literally anyone when Solksjaer took over and they'd probably have won the next 4 games (or more).
 

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Brighton sack Chris Hughton.
 

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I actually sort of get this one...while he has done a great job getting them to where they are now, they have clearly been on a bit of a slide and I had them as one of the main teams to struggle next season. I think Bloom came to the same conclusion and wanted to act early, rather than wait until the slide drew them in a non-recoverable position.

very good manager Hughton though, but you won't get too much out of him other than defensive performances once you get into the Prem.
 

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Brighton will finish bottom next year whoever's in charge. Sounds like a job for Mark Hughes!
 

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Potter of Swansea 1/4 favourite to replace him

Will be such a refreshing change for the fans to see nice flowing football as opposed to the dour defensive stuff CH served up
 

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Invipai said:
I actually sort of get this one...while he has done a great job getting them to where they are now, they have clearly been on a bit of a slide and I had them as one of the main teams to struggle next season. I think Bloom came to the same conclusion and wanted to act early, rather than wait until the slide drew them in a non-recoverable position.

very good manager Hughton though, but you won't get too much out of him other than defensive performances once you get into the Prem.
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HertfordBee said:
Brighton will finish bottom next year whoever's in charge. Sounds like a job for Mark Hughes!
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I think Hougton must feel a bit hard done by. Would any manager have done much better with that squad and resources? I doubt it.
You could say he's defensive.....but the worse your squad is the more you're arguably forced into playing that way. Trying to out-play considerably better teams will likely just see you get spanked every week as the opposition's higher quality is allowed to flourish.
 

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On the face of it their recruitment has been a disaster since being promoted. On one hand you can have a lot of sympathy for Hughton if he had little to play in that although perhaps they felt he was struggling to get the most out of those players and grew tired of him going back to the core that got them out of the Championship.

He won't want for work, that's for sure. I wonder where he'll go next - Celtic? WBA if they don't go up? Or even a job swap with Potter....
 

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Guildford Bee said:
On the face of it their recruitment has been a disaster since being promoted. On one hand you can have a lot of sympathy for Hughton if he had little to play in that although perhaps they felt he was struggling to get the most out of those players and grew tired of him going back to the core that got them out of the Championship..
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They signed the top scorer in the Dutch league last season, an Iranian, and he hasn't scored once this season. But, as we know, it takes time for players from that country to adapt.
 

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IDontBeeLieveIt said:
I think Hougton must feel a bit hard done by. Would any manager have done much better with that squad and resources? I doubt it.
You could say he's defensive.....but the worse your squad is the more you're arguably forced into playing that way. Trying to out-play considerably better teams will likely just see you get spanked every week as the opposition's higher quality is allowed to flourish.
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Agreed.
 

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Humblebee said:
They signed the top scorer in the Dutch league last season, an Iranian, and he hasn't scored once this season. But, as we know, it takes time for players from that country to adapt.
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Marco Boogers anyone?
 

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Whoever was responsible for Brighton’s recruitment is the one who deserves the sack.

Terrible bunch of signings who have looked totally out of their depth in the EPL.
 

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wibs said:
Potter of Swansea 1/4 favourite to replace him

Will be such a refreshing change for the fans to see nice flowing football as opposed to the dour defensive stuff CH served up
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Would be quite nice to see the back of Potter. Have a feeling he could turn Swansea into a serious outfit next season if they keep him.
 

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wibs said:
Potter of Swansea 1/4 favourite to replace him

Will be such a refreshing change for the fans to see nice flowing football as opposed to the dour defensive stuff CH served up
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My Brighton supporting pal said they need Harry Potter to stay up next year
 

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North London Bee said:
Whoever was responsible for Brighton’s recruitment is the one who deserves the sack.

Terrible bunch of signings who have looked totally out of their depth in the EPL.
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They spent quite a lot on players he didn’t pick. It’s a risky move for a head coach to do that and you need to keep winning to get away with it. If you start losing the hierarchy are always going to think about appointing a coach more likely to pick the new players.
 

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North London Bee said:
Whoever was responsible for Brighton’s recruitment is the one who deserves the sack.

Terrible bunch of signings who have looked totally out of their depth in the EPL.
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But one of them netted us a sell on didn't he?
 

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Hughton is a very good manager but I think he has run out of steam at Brighton. He will be in a new job soon enough.
 

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Hughton could have been a good appointment for Fulham next season but they, like Man Utd, have acted too soon in this respect. According to someone on Talksport, yes I know..., Solskjaer may have a three year contract but only gets one year's compensation when sacked. Interesting to see who lasts longest, Parker or Warburton?
 

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Wise old Bee said:
Hughton could have been a good appointment for Fulham next season but they, like Man Utd, have acted too soon in this respect. According to someone on Talksport, yes I know..., Solskjaer may have a three year contract but only gets one year's compensation when sacked. Interesting to see who lasts longest, Parker or Warburton?
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If Warburton keeps Raras out of bottom 3 and trims the wage bill I think he’ll be seen as a success?
If Parker doesn’t have Putney in the top 6 all season at very least he will not be seen as a success. He has the players to achieve that depending on the big names staying assuming both no release clauses or relegation salary reductions.
 

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mhead bee said:
Hughton is a very good manager but I think he has run out of steam at Brighton. He will be in a new job soon enough.
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WBA should they fail to get promoted perhaps
 

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Gee Bee said:
WBA should they fail to get promoted perhaps
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The FA Cup ties between the two sides would presumably go on the updated CV then. Not sure if CH will walk into another job that quickly, I think he has a ceiling in terms of what he can achieve. Fine if you want to challenge in the top half of the Championship, but I think of him as an assistant rather than a head coach.

WBA want to go up and stay up, and you really only achieve that replicating the improvements Watford, Bournemouth, Wolves, Palace, etc have made in consolidating in the EPL. Maybe Tony Bloom has recognised it over the course of this campaign, and has acted quickly to prevent a re-occurence next season. I think their squad has under-performed, and is probably one of the better teams defensively in the bottom half of the table. I wonder if he (TB) acted two months too late given Brendan Rodgers was available and has subsequently flourished at Leic.

Maybe he'll wait until after the Championship P/O semis and final before re-evaluating his next move.
 
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