Mathias Jensen

Mathias Jensen

LongLostBee said:
Our most overrated player by a certain section of fans
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I know the GPG is all about opinions, but I read this and shake my head in despair.

A player who has been absolutely integral to first our climb out of the Championship and then to becoming an established top half of the Premier League club.
 

Mathias Jensen

The Joker said:
I know the GPG is all about opinions, but I read this and shake my head in despair.

A player who has been absolutely integral to first our climb out of the Championship and then to becoming an established top half of the Premier League club.
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Ah, but you're assuming that opinions are always based upon facts. :LOL:
 

Mathias Jensen

westendbee said:
200+ appearances for us in 7 seasons, during which time we have finished no lower than 3rd in the Championship and you think he is overrated … this is just an attention-seeking post, no?

I thought normal GPG courtesy is to wait until a player has left the club, then say “actually, they weren’t that good…”
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None of that has the tiniest bearing on whether people currently overrate him or not.

I didn’t say Jensen hasn’t been useful or doesn’t have any quality.

I said that he’s overrated and, just like with Sawyers, people react the same way you and others are, claim they’ll play at the highest level. Then they don’t.
 

Mathias Jensen

LongLostBee said:
None of that has the tiniest bearing on whether people currently overrate him or not.

I didn’t say Jensen hasn’t been useful or doesn’t have any quality.

I said that he’s overrated and, just like with Sawyers, people react the same way you and others are, claim they’ll play at the highest level. Then they don’t.
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Where are people saying he'll play at the top level? He's 30, I haven't seen anyone saying he's going to go to a bigger club.
 

Mathias Jensen

He’s a player who has found his niche with us and we have got the best out of him. Fantastic yesterday for sure. At 30 he may have a big move if he wants it but I can’t see an “elite” club coming in for him. But then again Arsenal signed Norgaard
 

Mathias Jensen

In a similar way to a players like Bernardo Silva and Luke Modric, his game is reliant on pace, so he might have some of his best years ahead of him.

This season when the ball is fizzed into him, you never think he will give it away, then with a bit of silky skill, he finds a forward pass.
 

Mathias Jensen

chrisbyrne8383 said:
In a similar way to a players like Bernardo Silva and Luke Modric, his game is reliant on pace
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This is a bizarre comment all round

Modric has played at the very top level up to the age of 40 and Silva still doing it into his 30s

Neither rely on pace
 

Mathias Jensen

I dont care what others think, one of the most amazing players I have had the honour to watch at the Bees in 50+ years.......and include Jota and Benny in that. He moves with such grace and elegance.

He's a joy to watch, still does wow moments.

I do care that he is out of contract. He doesnt seem to be running out of steam so I hope we manage to sign up for at least 2 more years.
 

Mathias Jensen

Unless I missed it, failed to produce his mandatory nutmeg on Saturday (n). Hope he forfeited half his appearance bonus as a result. 😜:fishing:
Delighted those that matter didn't subscribe to the opinion that he should have been "moved on" at the end of last season.
 
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Mathias Jensen

chrisbyrne8383 said:
In a similar way to a players like Bernardo Silva and Luke Modric, his game is reliant on pace, so he might have some of his best years ahead of him.

This season when the ball is fizzed into him, you never think he will give it away, then with a bit of silky skill, he finds a forward pass.
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I assume that you meant to say isn't rather than is reliant on pace?
 

Mathias Jensen

Bill Benn said:
Another impressive performance Saturday for me he is having his best season for us.
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The fact that he seems to have been fully fit for the most part has certainly helped him reach his current high levels. When you compare him with poor old Damsgaard you can see the effects of injury, illness and parenting young children can have on a players performance. Fingers crossed for Dams next season and hopefully Matty stays with us. Both are wonderful players.
 

Mathias Jensen

Mathias Jensen

LongLostBee said:
None of that has the tiniest bearing on whether people currently overrate him or not.

I didn’t say Jensen hasn’t been useful or doesn’t have any quality.

I said that he’s overrated and, just like with Sawyers, people react the same way you and others are, claim they’ll play at the highest level. Then they don’t.
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Au contraire Rodney. For much of his Bees career, in my opinion, Jensen has been underrated. The signing of Christian Eriksen was a watershed moment for Mat - as I think Eriksen gave Jensen the self-belief and confidence to allow him to play with the wonderful skill and technique that most Bees fans have enjoyed in recent seasons.

I see you also pick out Romaine Sawyers. For me, both Jensen and Sawyers are fine examples of Brentford's recruitment - very decent people and very decent players, with potential to develop and very capable of playing at the next level up. I still rate Sawyers as one of the finest footballers that it has been my pleasure to watch in a Bees shirt.

However, as @The Joker says, football is all about opinions and we all look for different things in players. If these two players aren't your cup of tea, I'd be genuinely interested in which Bees midfielders have been.
 

Mathias Jensen

8corner said:
However, as @The Joker says, football is all about opinions and we all look for different things in players. If these two players aren't your cup of tea, I'd be genuinely interested in which Bees midfielders have been.
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Damsgaard (when fully fit).
Norgaard (when he was here).
Vitaly and Yarmo in certain periods (but that's starting to stretch things more).
Imo Jensen doesn't get in our team with everyone fit, as Damsgaard is better in the attacking role, and Hendo/Vitaly are better defensively/all-round.

I don't think he's a bad player, I just think his best position is as an attacking midfielder, and he's good there, but not as good as the likes of Damsgaard. I don't think he starts for any top side as a defensive midfielder and would need two workhorses in midfield along with him to not be a weakness.
 

Mathias Jensen

LongLostBee said:
Damsgaard (when fully fit).
Norgaard (when he was here).
Vitaly and Yarmo in certain periods (but that's starting to stretch things more).
Imo Jensen doesn't get in our team with everyone fit, as Damsgaard is better in the attacking role, and Hendo/Vitaly are better defensively/all-round.

I don't think he's a bad player, I just think his best position is as an attacking midfielder, and he's good there, but not as good as the likes of Damsgaard. I don't think he starts for any top side as a defensive midfielder and would need two workhorses in midfield along with him to not be a weakness.
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All good players - and Yarmo will be an absolute star in the future. Although Jensen's defensive game has improved a lot, there's still room for improvement. If everyone is fit, for certain games, I think there's room for Damsgaard and Jensen.
 

Mathias Jensen

He was sublime in the first half, some wonderful passes into Dams and KLP. Went off the boil a bit in the second, and then scores a worldie. A shame we have no points to show for how impressive he and Yarmo were tonight
 

Mathias Jensen

Very good, we played great football through the middle tonight with him and Dams combining very well. Front three were pretty poor though unfortunately so didn’t pay off!
 

Mathias Jensen

Just enjoy watching him play, he sees a pass and executes it quicker than most take to have the ball under their control and his reading of the game seems to have gone even to a better level this season.

Playing the best football of his career this season after 5 seasons in the PL and Season 2 in the PL was a pretty high standard too.
 

Mathias Jensen

Sign him up. He’s actually got a decent shot on him. Hopefully he deploy it a bit more after last night
 

Mathias Jensen

Mick.C said:
Just enjoy watching him play, he sees a pass and executes it quicker than most take to have the ball under their control and his reading of the game seems to have gone even to a better level this season.

Playing the best football of his career this season after 5 seasons in the PL and Season 2 in the PL was a pretty high standard too.
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Monday night at Old Trafford Jensen was class.
I hope that KA and PG are already speaking with Matt about staying?
After a stop, start earlier in the season he showed on Monday how he can control the midfield for Brentford.
Let's all get behind Matt and the team (as always) for the remaining games starting this Saturday.
COYB's 🐝
 

Mathias Jensen

The Joker said:
Sky Sports News reporting that we intend to trigger an option in Matty's contract for an extra year (while also looking at longer options).
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A very short-odds bet!
 

Mathias Jensen

Les Beeavinu said:
Doesn't mean we won't sell him if he refuses a new contract of course. This doesn't really feel like news tbh, we wouldn't let him just walk away this summer.
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It does appear that someone noticed that 2 of the 3 players with contracts expiring at the end of this season would be of value to renew/extend; they just missed Dasilva but I guess that’s less speculative.
 

Mathias Jensen

Les Beeavinu said:
Doesn't mean we won't sell him if he refuses a new contract of course. This doesn't really feel like news tbh, we wouldn't let him just walk away this summer.
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He's 30 now and worth much more to us for his on field contributions than any realistic resale value. I suspect he'll eventually be left to walk away for free at the end of his contract, but hopefully only after a nice extension or two.
 
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