Mathias Jensen

Mathias Jensen

BFC1997 said:
The absence of a multi-year extension in the case of MJ makes me nervous.

I think, like Nørgaard, he’s good enough to attract bigger wages on a multi-year deal elsewhere from a club willing to pay a fee.
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As @rebus noted, this probably had to be done now otherwise he'd be on a month's notice for his contract ending at the end of the month. I imagine the club are still talking about a new contract.
 

Mathias Jensen

Les Beeavinu said:
I imagine the club are still talking about a new contract.
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Hopefully, but you’d think if it was likely it would have been negotiated already and announced rather than the one year extension. If we’ve reached this point it’s probably not an ideal situation. But could be wrong
 

Mathias Jensen

Gazza Bee said:
Good news - if the club dont offer a new contract he has earnt a free transfer once this option expires next summer IMHO
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You want to give away Benham’s money eh?

That’s so nice of you.
 

Mathias Jensen

Les Beeavinu said:
As @rebus noted, this probably had to be done now otherwise he'd be on a month's notice for his contract ending at the end of the month. I imagine the club are still talking about a new contract.
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Exactly we are in control currently. Either he signs a new contract or we get 6 months of prime Mattie whilst his agent markets his client to a new club. If he goes for a free transfer I assume nil impact to our accounts since his minor incoming transfer fee now fully covered under amortisation. One of my favourite ever Brentford players, unfairly criticised by old Brentford (I am but progressive old Brentford 😂) used to midfielders steaming in whose first touch is a tackle.
 

Mathias Jensen

I felt if we didn't have the new Pele up top he would have been in with a shout of POTY. By far his best season with us.
 

Mathias Jensen

BFC1997 said:
Hopefully, but you’d think if it was likely it would have been negotiated already and announced rather than the one year extension. If we’ve reached this point it’s probably not an ideal situation. But could be wrong
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I suspect there are different levels for the three of them.

Why rush into it? I want them all to stay, but they will also be assessing their options.

Same for BFC. Unfortunately i reckon we are also looking to upgrade the squad at some point.

Jensen IMO has been brilliant to play himself back into the side.
 

Mathias Jensen

BFC1997 said:
The absence of a multi-year extension in the case of MJ makes me nervous.

I think, like Nørgaard, he’s good enough to attract bigger wages on a multi-year deal elsewhere from a club willing to pay a fee.
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This is all very disappointing, however, 15 years or, so ago I would be seriously worried. Not so now, our current management will ensure that if sold, he will be adequately replaced. Note, we always replace with better!
 

Mathias Jensen

brentford born & bred said:
Exactly we are in control currently. Either he signs a new contract or we get 6 months of prime Mattie whilst his agent markets his client to a new club. If he goes for a free transfer I assume nil impact to our accounts since his minor incoming transfer fee now fully covered under amortisation. One of my favourite ever Brentford players, unfairly criticised by old Brentford (I am but progressive old Brentford 😂) used to midfielders steaming in whose first touch is a tackle.
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Clearly an iconic player for Brentford, however, I do not expect to see him in our colours again. A future Hall of Fame player,
 

Mathias Jensen

Banana said:
You want to give away Benham’s money eh?

That’s so nice of you.
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Well said, Jenson if he wishes to remain in the Premier League, can offer a club 5 years of quality play. He must be worth several million pounds, and we are not a philanthropic society. James Milner has only just retired at the age of 40.
 

Mathias Jensen

BFC1997 said:
Hopefully, but you’d think if it was likely it would have been negotiated already and announced rather than the one year extension. If we’ve reached this point it’s probably not an ideal situation. But could be wrong
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We will be concerned to get the squad completed as soon as possible. I do agree, there have been months to sort this out, and if it was possible it would have been agreed already.
 

Mathias Jensen

Gazza Bee said:
Good news - if the club dont offer a new contract he has earnt a free transfer once this option expires next summer IMHO
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Only badly run clubs get into a situation where quality players walk away on a free. Players earn plenty of money as it is.
 

Mathias Jensen

Banana said:
You want to give away Benham’s money eh?

That’s so nice of you.
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We did the same with Pontus so there is a precedent already set - totally the club's choice but wouldn't be the first time that we have allowed a player to run their contract down and leave to say go back home 😉
 

Mathias Jensen

FA regulations stipulate that players in the last six months of their contract can only speak to clubs in other nations. They must wait until the final month of their contract before speaking to other domestic clubs.

How does the Club option to extend for a further year interact with this? For example, Jensen, Henry and Dasilva contracts not announced as extended by taking up the option until today.

If Barcelona, Real Madrid & Bayern Munich were in for them in February, to join when their current contracts expired, could the Club block the move by invoking the option?

Seems like such a structure could get messy if the player & agent enter into good faith negotiations with other Clubs if they believe the current Club won’t take up the option, only for it to be used to block a deal and preserve some player value.
 

Mathias Jensen

Jezybee said:
FA regulations stipulate that players in the last six months of their contract can only speak to clubs in other nations. They must wait until the final month of their contract before speaking to other domestic clubs.

How does the Club option to extend for a further year interact with this? For example, Jensen, Henry and Dasilva contracts not announced as extended by taking up the option until today.

If Barcelona, Real Madrid & Bayern Munich were in for them in February, to join when their current contracts expired, could the Club block the move by invoking the option?

Seems like such a structure could get messy if the player & agent enter into good faith negotiations with other Clubs if they believe the current Club won’t take up the option, only for it to be used to block a deal and preserve some player value.
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You're overthinking it.
 

Mathias Jensen

Jezybee said:
FA regulations stipulate that players in the last six months of their contract can only speak to clubs in other nations. They must wait until the final month of their contract before speaking to other domestic clubs.

How does the Club option to extend for a further year interact with this? For example, Jensen, Henry and Dasilva contracts not announced as extended by taking up the option until today.

If Barcelona, Real Madrid & Bayern Munich were in for them in February, to join when their current contracts expired, could the Club block the move by invoking the option?

Seems like such a structure could get messy if the player & agent enter into good faith negotiations with other Clubs if they believe the current Club won’t take up the option, only for it to be used to block a deal and preserve some player value.
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It appears to be clear to me. The fact that the club hold an option to extend means that the player is not fully out of contract on 1st July. Holding an option means that the player cannot officially start negotiations with a club as described by you. It would appear that the main purpose of the option is to prevent such approaches, plus enabling the club to extract a transfer fee before the player moves in the last season.
 

Mathias Jensen

TadB said:
It appears to be clear to me. The fact that the club hold an option to extend means that the player is not fully out of contract on 1st July. Holding an option means that the player cannot officially start negotiations with a club as described by you. It would appear that the main purpose of the option is to prevent such approaches, plus enabling the club to extract a transfer fee before the player moves in the last season.
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There must be dozens of scenarios but you’ve picked one.
 

Mathias Jensen

TadB said:
How about you list theml, and we will all be that much wiser.
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The most obvious one to me is that the Club and player’s agent are willing to negotiating a new contract, possibly with contract length the main issue, and that exercising the Club’s option gives time to complete it. Exactly the same as with Henry and Dasilva.

The next couple of weeks must be the period when the Club staff are at full stretch, with the transfer window about to open.
 

Mathias Jensen

Obviously not ITK, but I fear that only triggering the option and not announcing a renewed contract means Jensen will be leaving this summer. Other contract renewals have been announced far earlier in the season and so I assume (please see caveat in first sentence) this is similar to Schade and there is a gap between what we’re offering and what Jensen wants.

Hope I’m wrong as Jensen still has a lot to offer for the Bees, albeit maybe not for 5 years like one poster suggested!
 

Mathias Jensen

jlove said:
The most obvious one to me is that the Club and player’s agent are willing to negotiating a new contract, possibly with contract length the main issue, and that exercising the Club’s option gives time to complete it. Exactly the same as with Henry and Dasilva.

The next couple of weeks must be the period when the Club staff are at full stretch, with the transfer window about to open.
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Just one alternative then!
 

Mathias Jensen

TadB said:
Just one alternative then!
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We might think with him and Henry, the 200+ game experience is more valuable than the relatively small fee we will get for 2 30 year olds. No supposed policy is ever set in stone. They both would cost £20m+ to replace so a hit of £10m each if they left for nothing might be advantageous.
 

Mathias Jensen

I therefore agree with @jlove , there are other scenarios. You might be right but it's not a given imo, particularly in KAs words about his understanding of the club.
 

Mathias Jensen

Les Beeavinu said:
We might think with him and Henry, the 200+ game experience is more valuable than the relatively small fee we will get for 2 30 year olds. No supposed policy is ever set in stone. They both would cost £20m+ to replace.
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I have never suggested it was. Clubs will be well aware that we have two players who are out of contract next year, and this summer is our last chance to obtain a fee. They may feel that they can offer what we won’t. It may be that their circumstances are different to ours. Norgaard to Arsenal was a surprise to some, clearly he fulfilled a need. James Milner has just retired from Brighton at the age of 40, in the case of Jenson, I cannot recall a serious injury and in his position I can see no obstacle to him doing the same. In my opinion he could fetch a few million in a fee. It may be small in comparison to many, but we do not look the sort of club the throw money away. They will be replaced sometime so I am not sure your £20 million is relevant. I do not underestimate your points, and as has already been said, this is a reasonable debate to be had. It is multi faceted, and many different scenarios can be put forward, but no one can be sure that they will play for us again. It is my opinion that they are likely to be off if Giles can get it done. We must note that it could be to players benefit to get to next summer as a free agent, however, a wage rise now and a longer contract could tempt them, or the chance of being a reserve at a top six club as per Norgaard. In the case of Jensen, home. This debate could continue but I have contributed more than enough.
 

Mathias Jensen

No damage to the balance sheet but a hit on future cash flow. The latter is more important in day to day business operations.
brentford born & bred said:
Exactly we are in control currently. Either he signs a new contract or we get 6 months of prime Mattie whilst his agent markets his client to a new club. If he goes for a free transfer I assume nil impact to our accounts since his minor incoming transfer fee now fully covered under amortisation. One of my favourite ever Brentford players, unfairly criticised by old Brentford (I am but progressive old Brentford 😂) used to midfielders steaming in whose first touch is a tackle.
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Mathias Jensen

I am befuddled by some of the narrative on here. We want Europe don't we? Then we need Jensen. He is one of our seniors and takes the Captain armband often late in games.
Wether he remains a first 11 pick or not- which currently he definitely justifies- we need his experience in the squad. It's invaluable. Why would he walk away from a club that's backed him for years? It's nothing like the Pontus situation. Pontus was getting past his best, kept getting injured, wanted to go home and we all knew that well in advance.
Why the hell wouldn't we give a contract to a player who got us promoted and can still cut it? And yes the contract isn't multi years because he's getting on. That's pretty standard. And if he did want away who in the PL would he go to? He's not good enough for top six ....so why go elsewhere?
Final point- I'd suggest he has had a resurgence in form under Keith. Under TF he was drifting. I think he knows that and is honourable.
 

Mathias Jensen

Greybeard said:
No damage to the balance sheet but a hit on future cash flow. The latter is more important in day to day business operations.
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I assume the club are discussing a new contract and the year option extension buys additional time to negotiate.
If no agreement is reached and Mattie looks to leave, then the club has to weigh up the transfer fee that is possible this summer against retaining for a season a very good player who is also a senior member of the leadership group who leaves on a free next summer. Day to day business operations for the club is as a minimum based on retaining Premier League status, hence the balancing act of an incoming transfer fee against his playing value to the team this coming season.
I hope he stays, his game is not based on pace which declines with age and he has had good fitness availability so can see him playing at the top level for at least another 5 years.
 

Mathias Jensen

Starts for Denmark tonight (k.o. 19:00hrs) away to DR Congo (being played in Belgium).
 

Mathias Jensen

Both players ‘withdrawn’ from squad because of fitness issues (e.g. not capable in playing in the two games over the short period).
 

Mathias Jensen

Wouldbee said:
I am befuddled by some of the narrative on here. We want Europe don't we? Then we need Jensen. He is one of our seniors and takes the Captain armband often late in games.
Wether he remains a first 11 pick or not- which currently he definitely justifies- we need his experience in the squad. It's invaluable. Why would he walk away from a club that's backed him for years? It's nothing like the Pontus situation. Pontus was getting past his best, kept getting injured, wanted to go home and we all knew that well in advance.
Why the hell wouldn't we give a contract to a player who got us promoted and can still cut it? And yes the contract isn't multi years because he's getting on. That's pretty standard. And if he did want away who in the PL would he go to? He's not good enough for top six ....so why go elsewhere?
Final point- I'd suggest he has had a resurgence in form under Keith. Under TF he was drifting. I think he knows that and is honourable.
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All so true and accurate, however, he has either not been offered a new contract or not signed it! It begs the question why?
 

Mathias Jensen

Rumoured to be off to Panthanaikos.
The Mathias Jensen case is developing into one of the most demanding but also strategically important moves for Panathinaikos FC - #paofc this summer.

According to the data, Panathinaikos has already achieved something crucial. A financial agreement with the player himself. This means that the biggest “obstacle” in terms of personal terms has been overcome and the club has secured Jensen’s positive attitude, which often determines the outcome of such transfers.

However, the main front is now being transferred to negotiations with Brentford FC. The English team activated the option to extend the player’s contract for another year, after a full season (42 appearances, 5 goals, 3 assists), which strengthens its negotiating position.

Brentford appears willing to discuss the sale, but at levels above 6-7 million euros. This is a high amount by Greek standards, but not unrealistic for Panathinaikos, if they decide to invest dynamically in this specific case.

Competitively, Jensen is not just an option – he is a priority. His profile, with creativity, intensity and experience from the Premier League, suits a player who can immediately upgrade the midfield and function as a main pillar.

The next decisive step is the meeting between the two clubs. There it will be seen whether Panathinaikos is willing to reach this financial level or whether it will attempt to “break” the agreement through bonuses, installments or other conditions.
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View: https://x.com/thesportsshare/status/2063568737450471574?s=46
 

Mathias Jensen

He’s 30, been with us for 7 seasons and is still contributing both on and off the field.

If there is something in this rumour then it might be a move that he fancies for himself and his family and it will be the last opportunity for us to earn a transfer fee for him.

There is a good time for every player to leave - ideally when they are still performing and therefore attractive to other teams but perhaps at their peak or slightly past their best.

I love the way he plays and he would certainly need replacing as we look to upgrade but maybe this would be a move that suits everybody.
 

Mathias Jensen

TadB said:
True, but still not a situation any of us or the club would have wished for.
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How do you, or indeed I, know the club’s wishes on this?
From what I understand it was Thomas that wanted to give Norgaard another contract rather than let him go, not “the club”.
This feels like the extra year is to get a fee in this window.
 

Mathias Jensen

Would be very disappointed if he went. I get he’s 30 and been with us for 7 years but he was possibly our best midfielder last season and great creative influence. I don’t think we have a ready made replacement for him at the moment (and even a new signing can take at least half a season to bed in).
 

Mathias Jensen

A Real Mysteron said:
How do you, or indeed I, know the club’s wishes on this?
From what I understand it was Thomas that wanted to give Norgaard another contract rather than let him go, not “the club”.
This feels like the extra year is to get a fee in this window.
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True I do not know the clubs wishes any more than you know what TF wanted. Both are an educated guess. I do agree that the extra year is to get a fee. Indeed that is highly likely.
 

Mathias Jensen

I think him and Rico will be offered new contracts reflective of their age and triggering the extensions just gives all parties time to negotiate.It's a good thing isn't it?

Surprised that people see it as a negative and a sign that both are off.
 

Mathias Jensen

Personally I can't see any reason why the club would want Jensen to leave, he has just had his best season with us and seems to be much more effective under KA.
I would suggest the one year extension is to allow more time to negotiate a new longer contract
 
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