Mikkel Damsgaard

Mikkel Damsgaard

mundee4england said:
You can see that his mind works very quickly and with games and fitness he’ll be a baller I suspect!
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Think would be more effective eventually when up to full premier league speed as the most advanced midfielder in a three. Would make us much more difficult to defend against with Toney up top and two quick players either side, with Damsgaard (plus Jensen) supplying ammunition. At present though I think he would get out muscled in that midfield three especially whilst adapting to pace of premier league
 

Mikkel Damsgaard

Used the word confidence multiple times in his post match interview. Clearly for him the issue and rarely mentioned by the player themselves.
 

Mikkel Damsgaard

N5022N122 said:
Used the word confidence multiple times in his post match interview. Clearly for him the issue and rarely mentioned by the player themselves.
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Any playmaker / creative player has to take risks and to take risks you need confidence in your ability to pull them off (as well as confidence that your team mates will be on the same wavelength). We know only too well the groans you hear about "*** passes from our creative players when a pass doesn't come off.
 

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jlove said:
Any playmaker / creative player has to take risks and to take risks you need confidence in your ability to pull them off (as well as confidence that your team mates will be on the same wavelength). We know only too well the groans you hear about "*** passes from our creative players when a pass doesn't come off.
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I think Damsgaard looks on a different level to most and happy to look for the difficult pass and gamble with a run into a busy danger area? That will result in boom or bust sometimes with a chance for us or an attack breaking down and potential counter attack leaving us in trouble.
I think it’s a risk we need to take because we lack an attacking threat and I’m a strong believer that special players win games.
Currently we are relying on Jensen who has a great football brain and can pick the occasional great pass for any creative or threat going forward from midfield.
JDS, Shandon, Vitaly and Frank haven’t give us anything like enough occasions of attacking threat yet, Sergi obviously is an option and Mikel the other who we know look to take on and go past players.
I trust that KLP could be the other player with both craft, creativity and pace going forward but haven’t seen enough of him yet.
A fully fit Norgaard, Damsgaard and AN other in midfield will give us a far better blend and threat in midfield so confident we know what needs to happen
 

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Running at players is not a trait seen much in modern football I guess as its statistically likely to end in failure? Also leaves a hole behind if not a forward. I think the skill lies in how far to go before you run into a wall. If a shot is the intention then its that risk if its to draw players and pass it off probably more productive.
 

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N5022N122 said:
Running at players is not a trait seen much in modern football I guess as its statistically likely to end in failure? Also leaves a hole behind if not a forward. I think the skill lies in how far to go before you run into a wall. If a shot is the intention then its that risk if its to draw players and pass it off probably more productive.
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sshhhh ! dont tell KLP
 

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sonofabee said:
I think Damsgaard looks on a different level to most and happy to look for the difficult pass and gamble with a run into a busy danger area? That will result in boom or bust sometimes with a chance for us or an attack breaking down and potential counter attack leaving us in trouble.
I think it’s a risk we need to take because we lack an attacking threat and I’m a strong believer that special players win games.
Currently we are relying on Jensen who has a great football brain and can pick the occasional great pass for any creative or threat going forward from midfield.
JDS, Shandon, Vitaly and Frank haven’t give us anything like enough occasions of attacking threat yet, Sergi obviously is an option and Mikel the other who we know look to take on and go past players.
I trust that KLP could be the other player with both craft, creativity and pace going forward but haven’t seen enough of him yet.
A fully fit Norgaard, Damsgaard and AN other in midfield will give us a far better blend and threat in midfield so confident we know what needs to happen
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Spot on mate.

I hate mentioning him but its something we saw with Erikson.

Taking that risk and pushing into threatening areas. Hopefully MD gives us that extra edge.
 

Mikkel Damsgaard

N5022N122 said:
Running at players is not a trait seen much in modern football I guess as its statistically likely to end in failure? Also leaves a hole behind if not a forward. I think the skill lies in how far to go before you run into a wall. If a shot is the intention then its that risk if its to draw players and pass it off probably more productive.
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Fortune favours the brave and I’d rather go down having a go and fighting than accepting narrow defeats
 

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Last season, results tended to fall into something of a pattern:

Tier 1 teams: We played extremely well, defended and attacked with intensity. Results: some gallant losses and the occasion unlikely result (3-3 against Liverpool)
Tier 2 teams: We played extremely well and got quite a few results as we played with intensity (e.g. West Ham games)
Tier 3 teams: Mixed bag. When we played with pace and power, we won or got a good result (e.g. Wolves away, Palace away). When we lacked intensity and the crowd was sleepy, we sleepwalked into defeats (e.g. Leicester)
Bottom tier teams: When we lacked intensity, we lost or got a poor result (e.g. Norwich at home, Burnley away, Leeds home). When season was on the line, we won (e.g. Burnley Home, Watford etc)

It seems to me that two ingredients would help us be a Top-ten team: (1) Trying to get the team and crowd fired up for the Tier 3 and Bottom Tier games and (2) Getting more creativity in the side to unlock teams who play deep and frustrate our normal intense counter-attacking and direct game.

Damsgaard should definitely help on the creativity side which will help turn the odd draw into a win where we're trying to break a team down or we're playing with intensity against a Tier 2 or 3 team, but I'd like to see some stats or acknowledgment about how we get up for every single game and out-run and out-fight every opponent.
 

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swr22 said:
Last season, results tended to fall into something of a pattern:

Tier 1 teams: We played extremely well, defended and attacked with intensity. Results: some gallant losses and the occasion unlikely result (3-3 against Liverpool)
Tier 2 teams: We played extremely well and got quite a few results as we played with intensity (e.g. West Ham games)
Tier 3 teams: Mixed bag. When we played with pace and power, we won or got a good result (e.g. Wolves away, Palace away). When we lacked intensity and the crowd was sleepy, we sleepwalked into defeats (e.g. Leicester)
Bottom tier teams: When we lacked intensity, we lost or got a poor result (e.g. Norwich at home, Burnley away, Leeds home). When season was on the line, we won (e.g. Burnley Home, Watford etc)

It seems to me that two ingredients would help us be a Top-ten team: (1) Trying to get the team and crowd fired up for the Tier 3 and Bottom Tier games and (2) Getting more creativity in the side to unlock teams who play deep and frustrate our normal intense counter-attacking and direct game.

Damsgaard should definitely help on the creativity side which will help turn the odd draw into a win where we're trying to break a team down or we're playing with intensity against a Tier 2 or 3 team, but I'd like to see some stats or acknowledgment about how we get up for every single game and out-run and out-fight every opponent.
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I think we need more strength in depth to play with intensity for 90 odd minutes.
 

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swr22 said:
Last season, results tended to fall into something of a pattern:

Tier 1 teams: We played extremely well, defended and attacked with intensity. Results: some gallant losses and the occasion unlikely result (3-3 against Liverpool)
Tier 2 teams: We played extremely well and got quite a few results as we played with intensity (e.g. West Ham games)
Tier 3 teams: Mixed bag. When we played with pace and power, we won or got a good result (e.g. Wolves away, Palace away). When we lacked intensity and the crowd was sleepy, we sleepwalked into defeats (e.g. Leicester)
Bottom tier teams: When we lacked intensity, we lost or got a poor result (e.g. Norwich at home, Burnley away, Leeds home). When season was on the line, we won (e.g. Burnley Home, Watford etc)

It seems to me that two ingredients would help us be a Top-ten team: (1) Trying to get the team and crowd fired up for the Tier 3 and Bottom Tier games and (2) Getting more creativity in the side to unlock teams who play deep and frustrate our normal intense counter-attacking and direct game.

Damsgaard should definitely help on the creativity side which will help turn the odd draw into a win where we're trying to break a team down or we're playing with intensity against a Tier 2 or 3 team, but I'd like to see some stats or acknowledgment about how we get up for every single game and out-run and out-fight every opponent.
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I think this is not really true.
Across the season we performed pretty much as you'd expect, doing better against the lower placed teams.

vs Big 6 = 0.66 points per game
vs Midtable = 1.1875 points per game
vs Bottom 5 = 1.9 points per game
 

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mhead bee said:
Looked very good, will be a while before he hits full fitness, when KLP is fit again there are some serious options.
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They could very well be ideal complimentary pieces. If we're playing 4-3-3 or 4-4-2, Damsgaard on the left behind KLP is a way we might get some success
against packed in defenses.
 

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mhead bee said:
Looked very good, will be a while before he hits full fitness, when KLP is fit again there are some serious options.
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But Damsgaard will be attacking centre and Lewis potter out wide …
 

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James30 said:
But Damsgaard will be attacking centre and Lewis potter out wide …
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Yes, but I think both of the them are capable of playing both positions. Damsgaard can play as a winger and young Mr. Lewis Potter could have a future as an center forward or central attacking midfielder.
 

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BFC1997 said:
I think this is not really true.
Across the season we performed pretty much as you'd expect, doing better against the lower placed teams.

vs Big 6 = 0.66 points per game
vs Midtable = 1.1875 points per game
vs Bottom 5 = 1.9 points per game
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Very interesting but That data doesn't quite line up with my hypothesis though: would be interesting to test the number of sprints or distance run in the games that we won and lost for each type of game style
 

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Boston Bee said:
They could very well be ideal complimentary pieces. If we're playing 4-3-3 or 4-4-2, Damsgaard on the left behind KLP is a way we might get some success
against packed in defenses.
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I don't think we've played 4-4-2 for at least ten years
 

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stevendamico said:
Yes, but I think both of the them are capable of playing both positions. Damsgaard can play as a winger and young Mr. Lewis Potter could have a future as an center forward or central attacking midfielder.
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Actually you're right, and his best cameos so far have been when he's come on behind the striker, causes all sorts of problems there with his movement and runs into the box..
 

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Mr Cynical said:
Actually you're right, and his best cameos so far have been when he's come on behind the striker, causes all sorts of problems there with his movement and runs into the box..
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I've been thinking about this a while and I think the players we've got would really suit a 4-2-3-1. Toney as a focal point, mbeumo damsgaard klp behind him either supplying him or making problems for the defence, and a double pivot of any 2 our 6/8 type midfielders. Think this could be the solution to our defensive midfield problems while norgaards out and would get the best out of Klp and damsgaard. That attacking midfield 3 could be switched around a lot, JDS and wissa would be great impact subs and I think ghoddos and Canos would do well in that kind of system too.

Obligatory TF knows best yadda yadda, just having fun imagining
 

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Bumbling fool said:
I've been thinking about this a while and I think the players we've got would really suit a 4-2-3-1. Toney as a focal point, mbeumo damsgaard klp behind him either supplying him or making problems for the defence, and a double pivot of any 2 our 6/8 type midfielders. Think this could be the solution to our defensive midfield problems while norgaards out and would get the best out of Klp and damsgaard. That attacking midfield 3 could be switched around a lot, JDS and wissa would be great impact subs and I think ghoddos and Canos would do well in that kind of system too.

Obligatory TF knows best yadda yadda, just having fun imagining
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Interesting idea, I think most of our 'wingers' aren't out and out wide players, more attacking players who can play wide. Canos is a possible exception but KLP, Ghoddos, Mbeumo, Wissa and Damsgaard would all happily sit in the just behind the striker as you say. The only issue with this I could see is that we don't really have 2 decent no.6s available, but I guess you could sit Jensen deep alongside Janelt. Think @TheHairdresser posted a similar formation as a suggestion for Newcastle away..
 

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Mr Cynical said:
The only issue with this I could see is that we don't really have 2 decent no.6s available
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That's almost part of what I'm thinking. Only norgaard can hold midfield by himself, so without him it takes 2 players to do his job, but the tradeoff is the "10" can focus mainly on their attacking duties, which I think would benefit JDS and damsgaard a lot. I think onyeka and vitaly would both benefit from some opportunities to let the other dm sit back and get forward now and then instead of forcing them into norgaards shoes. I also have faith in Jensen and Baptistes defending skills and think they could definitely do the job in a double pivot
 

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Bumbling fool said:
I've been thinking about this a while and I think the players we've got would really suit a 4-2-3-1. Toney as a focal point, mbeumo damsgaard klp behind him either supplying him or making problems for the defence, and a double pivot of any 2 our 6/8 type midfielders. Think this could be the solution to our defensive midfield problems while norgaards out and would get the best out of Klp and damsgaard. That attacking midfield 3 could be switched around a lot, JDS and wissa would be great impact subs and I think ghoddos and Canos would do well in that kind of system too.

Obligatory TF knows best yadda yadda, just having fun imagining
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I gotta be honest I've been thinking this too. I would love to see it.
 

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Bumbling fool said:
I've been thinking about this a while and I think the players we've got would really suit a 4-2-3-1. Toney as a focal point, mbeumo damsgaard klp behind him either supplying him or making problems for the defence, and a double pivot of any 2 our 6/8 type midfielders. Think this could be the solution to our defensive midfield problems while norgaards out and would get the best out of Klp and damsgaard. That attacking midfield 3 could be switched around a lot, JDS and wissa would be great impact subs and I think ghoddos and Canos would do well in that kind of system too.

Obligatory TF knows best yadda yadda, just having fun imagining
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I agree with this. Would you still advocate the same against a top 6 side? I would tend to go back to the 5-3-2 formation
 

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Bumbling fool said:
That's almost part of what I'm thinking. Only norgaard can hold midfield by himself, so without him it takes 2 players to do his job, but the tradeoff is the "10" can focus mainly on their attacking duties, which I think would benefit JDS and damsgaard a lot. I think onyeka and vitaly would both benefit from some opportunities to let the other dm sit back and get forward now and then instead of forcing them into norgaards shoes. I also have faith in Jensen and Baptistes defending skills and think they could definitely do the job in a double pivot
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Trouble is we would inevitably end up with the three attacking midfielders dropping deep to receive the ball because the 2 DMs can't progress it. Really at this level you need those 2 players to be some of the best on the ball in the team and also most mobile. I fear we'd end up with 4 or 5 midfielders in our own half and Toney ploughing a lone furrow. A Norgaard/Bidstrup double pivot might be interesting though in the future...?
 

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Mr Cynical said:
Trouble is we would inevitably end up with the three attacking midfielders dropping deep to receive the ball because the 2 DMs can't progress it. Really at this level you need those 2 players to be some of the best on the ball in the team and also most mobile. I fear we'd end up with 4 or 5 midfielders in our own half and Toney ploughing a lone furrow. A Norgaard/Bidstrup double pivot might be interesting though in the future...?
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Yeah would be a great way to get bidstrup some game time without giving up our best midfielder.

I do think Baptiste is very mobile and Jensen's great on the ball, so one of them could be doing that job but then it's kind of a 4-1-1-3-1 and this is falling apart already. Hmm.

Also don't forget our top tier wingbacks! Speaking of I think someone here once said that hickey is comfortable at CDM, not sure it would ever be worth taking him off right back tho. Ajer and roerslev not on hickeys level at all.
 

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Bumbling fool said:
Yeah would be a great way to get bidstrup some game time without giving up our best midfielder.

I do think Baptiste is very mobile and Jensen's great on the ball, so one of them could be doing that job but then it's kind of a 4-1-1-3-1 and this is falling apart already. Hmm.

Also don't forget our top tier wingbacks! Speaking of I think someone here once said that hickey is comfortable at CDM, not sure it would ever be worth taking him off right back tho. Ajer and roerslev not on hickeys level at all.
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I think actually Hickey could prob be v good in that role, two quick feet, v mobile and surprisingly strong for his size/age. As you say though that would be creating problems in another area! Not easy this is it?? :ROFLMAO:
 

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Mr Cynical said:
I think actually Hickey could prob be v good in that role, two quick feet, v mobile and surprisingly strong for his size/age. As you say though that would be creating problems in another area! Not easy this is it?? :ROFLMAO:
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Thats why TF gets the big(?) bucks
 

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Boston Bee said:
They could very well be ideal complimentary pieces. If we're playing 4-3-3 or 4-4-2, Damsgaard on the left behind KLP is a way we might get some success
against packed in defenses.
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Mr Cynical said:
I’d hope Damsgaard will be in centre mid once fully fit so they won’t be competing
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James30 said:
But Damsgaard will be attacking centre and Lewis potter out wide …
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Quite possibly, but having a fit LKP and Damsgaard gives us options doesn't it.
 

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Can't beleive people saying 4-2-3-1. When we played that we were so vulnerable to a ball over the top.
 

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Has to start Friday, brought a bit of quality on the ball and actually went past a couple of players. Question then is who starts with him and Jensen?
 

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Not seen anything from Damsgaard yet, to inspire me tbh.
The whole of our midfield is lacking in real quality.
 
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