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Nathan Collins

LongLostBee said:
I’d prefer Hendo is given the captaincy.

Even if it’s not weighing on him he’s looked flaky lately and imo needs to devote all his time to focussing on his own game and not trying to be a captain (pretty certain Keith was saying something similar in a recent interview).
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Collins is an excellent player; admittedly it’s a couple of “shakier” performances in a row - but on what planet does stripping him of the captaincy a few weeks in result in anything other than a smashing of his confidence?

He just needs our backing. And actually today wasn't all terrible; we’ve beaten Man United 3-1 - he could have scored himself with a good header (save from Bayindir first half) and from what I can tell he wasn’t losing any of his duels or getting caught out of shape or anything like that.
 

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Going through a rough patch and needs our support to pull him through. I think he is still very much captain material, although he does still have a lot to learn in that department (an arm around Pinnock after the OG, for example and maybe a bit more control over his temper).
 

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We have just won comfortably against Manchester United in a show of fortitude and resolve and confidence.

If your take from the game is that we should strip our captain of his armband then you need to give your head a serious wobble.
 

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BFC1997 said:
Basically, if I understand correctly.

The reason given was that when Collins pulled Mbeumo down, the ball was not yet in a position where Mbeumo clearly had a goalscoring opportunity, e.g under his control or close enough to it in the eyes of VAR.
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Which is ridiculous if there is an open goal and someone is running onto a cross for a tap in then by their rules isn't a goalscoring opportunity either
 

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BFC1997 said:
Collins is an excellent player; admittedly it’s a couple of “shakier” performances in a row - but on what planet does stripping him of the captaincy a few weeks in result in anything other than a smashing of his confidence?

He just needs our backing. And actually today wasn't all terrible; we’ve beaten Man United 3-1 - he could have scored himself with a good header (save from Bayindir first half) and from what I can tell he wasn’t losing any of his duels or getting caught out of shape or anything like that.
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This completely, undoubtedly had two poor moments which cost us goals against Fulham, did get lucky today - on another the pull on Mbeumo could have been a red yet overall thought he did well enough today. He's a class act & a brief shaky spell doesn't change that. On what planet would removing the Captaincy from him work.
 

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nick logan said:
What !!!
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He had one freekick in the RCB position. Meant to ping it across for Schade running in behind at LW - he shanked it out over Dango's head on the other wing
 

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Arthur, Ji Soo, Stephenson, Frederick, Headman.

We have a conveyor belt of fantastic emerging talent at centre back.
 
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They've been reporting / speculating this ever since TF went to Spurs.
 

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Missed a header for the first goal, made a header for the second, picked up another yellow card. Not his finest game.
 

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A performance by him reminiscent of his v Wolves (H) from a couple of seasons back......
 

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Isleworth_Bee said:
Had a couple of below par games this season.
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Been a real Curates egg of a season for Nathan so far.

From inspirational skipper & rock solid Centre backs to a couple of ready sub-par performances. Needs to regroup & bring his 'A' game vs Newcastle next week.
 

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badgerbee said:
A performance by him reminiscent of his v Wolves (H) from a couple of seasons back......
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I’d say it was a long way from being that bad, but not his best. When Nathan does make a mistake he often adds one or two more in the same game, likely a mental thing you’d guess. He’s generally very solid though and still not that old.
 

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badgerbee said:
A performance by him reminiscent of his v Wolves (H) from a couple of seasons back......
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I would say it was also similar to his more recent performance against Fulham.

I don’t particularly like criticising our players, but it looked to me as though he was constantly being distracted. From the start of the game he was ranting towards the officials as well as being wound up by Mateta, which resulted in a perceived lack of focus. His own goal was just an unfortunate circumstance which, for him, encapsulated a bad day at the office.
 

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damsgard.szn said:
sounding like an arsenal fan here… the weather???
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guilly said:
Wind didn't look that bad from the stand, but even in the first half, both teams were unable to complete any long range pass. For the current tactical setup, that was not good.
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I wasn't there so i was just going by the commentry that said the wind was really swirling around up that end in the second half.

Anyway,sh*t happens
 

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I've just had a read of his player thread on their national team forum.....if they're like that after a magnificent result like that I dread to think what they come out with after a loss and elimination.

Apparently he can't handle being pressed, isn't a ball playing CB, can't make progressive forward passes, his defensive positioning is poor, gives the ball away cheaply, doesn't close down quickly enough, not captain material, selfish, dives, too jocular with oppo players on the pitch.......FM the list is endless.

Nathan must've had a right giggle reading all that armchair manager nonsense.
 

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TheHairdresser said:
I've just had a read of his player thread on their national team forum.....if they're like that after a magnificent result like that I dread to think what they come out with after a loss and elimination.

Apparently he can't handle being pressed, isn't a ball playing CB, can't make progressive forward passes, his defensive positioning is poor, gives the ball away cheaply, doesn't close down quickly enough, not captain material, selfish, dives, too jocular with oppo players on the pitch.......FM the list is endless.

Nathan must've had a right giggle reading all that armchair manager nonsense.
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Sounds like a minority on the GPG during his first season with us which exploded after the Wolves game at the Gtech.
 

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brentford born & bred said:
I haven't been on the Ireland forum but the criticism on here during his first season was severe and wholly unjustified knee jerk reaction by a vocal minority.
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Most of the criticism on there is centred around him supposedly being a poor captain because he doesn't recklessly charge towards the ball every time it gets near the Ireland goal. They've been subjected to such dross for so many years that they literally can't comprehend what top level defending is supposed to look like. And it certainly appears to be a majority on there who share that opinion.
 

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Having seen the goal back, it would be immensely harsh to say NC was at ‘fault’.

I do think he’ll be disappointed that Welbeck got a run on him and in behind. One of those where the cross needs to be great and it was.

I don’t think he’s quite yet achieved the imperious and at times faultless performances we saw last season. At times been a bit frantic. But that makes no difference to what a sublime player he is
 

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BuzzingBee95 said:
Having seen the goal back, it would be immensely harsh to say NC was at ‘fault’.

I do think he’ll be disappointed that Welbeck got a run on him and in behind. One of those where the cross needs to be great and it was.

I don’t think he’s quite yet achieved the imperious and at times faultless performances we saw last season. At times been a bit frantic. But that makes no difference to what a sublime player he is
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The cross was superb, make no bones about it.
NC will be royally pi**ed off that he switched off for even a microsecond and allowed perrenial 8 goal a season man to get in behind him.
 

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I thought very good from Collins against Burnley.

Dominated aerially, took some risks and executed well with driving runs forward and great composed moments with the ball to break lines.

Particularly first half when it felt others in the team were a little pedestrian / sloppy he was taking on responsibility with the ball to get us up the pitch.
 

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I’m chuffed for him having great games for Ireland but if he could turn up in a Brentford shirt at some point soon it would be appreciated by me and his teammates.
 
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