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Nathan Collins

To Bee Someone said:
Great captains performance.
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A great captain's performance save for the fact that it was Jordan who made sure that Kevin got the match ball at the end of the game. Well done Hendo.
 

Nathan Collins

Goal and assist today and looks back to his best.
 

Nathan Collins

Surprised no one has posted about Collins as he had a bit of a mare. To blame for first goal where ball ballooned into the air and he let Jesus, a much smaller player, control it, turn him and muscle him out of the way before scoring. Nearly repeated the performance with more terrible defending on the same player later in the first half. To give him 5 out of 10 today would be generous. He just seems prone to the occasional really poor game when he just doesn't seem focused.
 

Nathan Collins

I didn’t notice him ‘having a bit of a mare’ but I do wish he’d have been a bit more courageous in trying to carry the ball forward and breaking the line a bit more today. He’s got that in him and with playing so deep we needed that today.
 

Nathan Collins

cliffbee said:
Surprised no one has posted about Collins as he had a bit of a mare. To blame for first goal where ball ballooned into the air and he let Jesus, a much smaller player, control it, turn him and muscle him out of the way before scoring. Nearly repeated the performance with more terrible defending on the same player later in the first half. To give him 5 out of 10 today would be generous. He just seems prone to the occasional really poor game when he just doesn't seem focused.
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I thought he was really poor today. Got bullied, repeated the same mistake that he made for the goal and some shaky distribution.
 

Nathan Collins

Les Beeavinu said:
Was he bad? Seems a bit weird to pick on a centre back against a team who's sole intention was to defend.
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Don't know which stand you watch from as that does determine your view to a large extend. I had a great view of him first half and I can assure you he was AWFUL. He made Igor Jesus look like Pele.
 

Nathan Collins

Les Beeavinu said:
Was he bad? Seems a bit weird to pick on a centre back against a team who's sole intention was to defend.
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That’s the point. We went Nathan to defend. Compare their CBs with Nathan today. Chalk and cheese.
 

Nathan Collins

Not his best day but he’s generally very good and we all have a day off! I wouldn’t wade in too quickly!
 

Nathan Collins

Les Beeavinu said:
Was he bad? Seems a bit weird to pick on a centre back against a team who's sole intention was to defend.
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I don’t think he was bad defensively but I think he (and SVDB) should be doing more, and taking more risk, trying to beat the break the line when it was clear Forest were here to park the bus.
 

Nathan Collins

Les Beeavinu said:
No, you can't assure me, you just have that opinion.
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Yes, it's an opinion. Everything on here is an opinion. But I don't make a habit of criticising players. I've probably done it a handful of times a season for the last 20 years.
 

Nathan Collins

BEEcool said:
I don’t think he was bad defensively but I think he (and SVDB) should be doing more, and taking more risk, trying to beat the break the line when it was clear Forest were here to park the bus.
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The bus is always in front of them though so not a lot they can do from the half way line.
 

Nathan Collins

Les Beeavinu said:
The bus is always in front of them though so not a lot they can do from the half way line. I've seen motm match votes for Vitaly today - a game like today is exactly where his limitations are shown up.
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I disagree, I think they should occasionally be taking a risk and trying to go past the first line of defence with the ball rather than playing across the back.
 

Nathan Collins

BEEcool said:
I disagree, I think they should occasionally be taking a risk and trying to go past the first line of defence with the ball rather than playing across the back.
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He'd be beating one player to get to the next 9.
 

Nathan Collins

Had a poor match. Stood off Jesus for the crucial first goal & nearly repeated the error shortly afterwards. Days like this are so frustrating as we know how good he can be.
 

Nathan Collins

Very poor for the first goal as was SVB for the second, however he and we've been very good this season, just one of those days.
 

Nathan Collins

I don't know what to think on Collins.

He's got clear quality, plays like a rolls royce at times... and then 1 in 3 games turns into a Rover/Metro 100.

The good will always outweigh the bad and I do like his presence on the pitch, but he does remind us fairly often why he's at Brentford and not Barcelona.
 

Nathan Collins

Bolivian Rovers said:
Very poor for the first goal as was SVB for the second, however he and we've been very good this season, just one of those days.
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He’s also responsible for winning the headers from the up n unders too, but he got beaten to it quite often in the first 20 minutes or so, maybe longer.
 

Nathan Collins

Sandybee said:
He’s also responsible for winning the headers from the up n unders too, but he got beaten to it quite often in the first 20 minutes or so, maybe longer.
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I get that too, but he's been good and I think a lot with him depends on how he starts and as with many players the first involvment is crucial for confidence and he didn't start well which unfortunatley continued, but as I said one of those days. As Always Up The Bees.
 

Nathan Collins

A more general point than digging out Collins but… watching Florist’s players defending and breaking up play – just like Arteta’s style – they seem to A) be prepared to get physically close to an attacker with the ball; B) foul enough but not quite enough to concede a free kick.

We have a more open style of defending that usually means not going to the player with the ball but running back to a deep block and getting set to defend our box. While this is very effective, I wonder what type of coaching makes Dyche’s and Arteta’s players, not just defenders, so aggressive on the ball. As said a number of times: are we too soft?
 

Nathan Collins

It's been mentioned before and I agree, that sometimes when Collins makes a mistake, that mistake gets all up in his head and then his concentration goes out the window. I think that's what happened yesterday, but I'm not a sports psychologist.
 

Nathan Collins

jlove said:
A more general point than digging out Collins but… watching Florist’s players defending and breaking up play – just like Arteta’s style – they seem to A) be prepared to get physically close to an attacker with the ball; B) foul enough but not quite enough to concede a free kick.

We have a more open style of defending that usually means not going to the player with the ball but running back to a deep block and getting set to defend our box. While this is very effective, I wonder what type of coaching makes Dyche’s and Arteta’s players, not just defenders, so aggressive on the ball. As said a number of times: are we too soft?
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.... think it's fair to say the Collins and Ajer/Van den Berg combination will never have the physical presence of a Van de Ven/Romero or Saliba/Gabriel partnership.... however i'd love to see BFC with another Tarks type CB in the near future....imo we need bullies in that position....we are genuinely soft at the back at the current time....lots of mistakes are emanating from our CB partnership.
 

Nathan Collins

jlove said:
A more general point than digging out Collins but… watching Florist’s players defending and breaking up play – just like Arteta’s style – they seem to A) be prepared to get physically close to an attacker with the ball; B) foul enough but not quite enough to concede a free kick.

We have a more open style of defending that usually means not going to the player with the ball but running back to a deep block and getting set to defend our box. While this is very effective, I wonder what type of coaching makes Dyche’s and Arteta’s players, not just defenders, so aggressive on the ball. As said a number of times: are we too soft?
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Far too soft. Like sponge pudding against Forest.
 

Nathan Collins

Where are you today Nate dog?
 

Nathan Collins

The form Sepp and Kris are in at the moment an injury to either or a back 5, which is unlikely, is probably the only way Nathan gets back in the lineup,we’re blessed with talented centre backs, do feel for Collins but a rest will do him good and he will comeback stronger being such a quality player 🐝🐝
 

Nathan Collins

Injuries will happen, he’ll get back into the team. Can’t be easy watching on the sidelines but continuing to contribute behind the scenes and not let his frustration affect team morale are components to being the captain.
 

Nathan Collins

I happened to look over to the bench after Arsenal scored last night and saw him stand up and shout encouragement to the guys on the pitch and not to let their heads drop. Speaks volumes about him as a captain and the group as a whole that he was doing it while no doubt annoyed he's not playing.
 

Nathan Collins

Maybe this is a sign of the new era and he's showing as red risk of injury on the data that's collected so is being rested.
 
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I think it's simply that he got a injured and Sepp came in and has played too well to be dropped. Competition for places is exactly what we need and players need to know that if they come into the team and do well they'll stay in the team. Nathan will get hic chance again soon and if he takes it will stay in the team.
 

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So much talent but he does seem to have this casual side to him. Probably the best all round CB we have but needs to learn from the drive and focus that Ajer has shown recently, especially as he is our captain. It was a shocking error today.
 
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