New Manager Poll

[hairman]

Not very fashionable and very topical (at least today) but has anyone considered Slade? Has done well at Yeovil and now at Orient, how would he do at a (big) club like Brentford?

I'm guessing a popularity rating of -37 for this one.

Now 'Look wot you dun'

 

[BuzzBeeSi]

With the new players coming in, 1/3 looks good value for Forster to be the next permanent manager don't you think?

 

[vcmazz]

Not very fashionable and very topical (at least today) but has anyone considered Slade? Has done well at Yeovil and now at Orient, how would he do at a (big) club like Brentford?

I'm guessing a popularity rating of -37 for this one.

Now 'Look wot you dun'

Yeah. 'How does it feel'?

 

[Salford Bee]

The winds seem to be blowing towards the good ship Forster. Thankfully the chances of Allen coming back appear to be slim to nil

 

[Bee4ever]

The winds seem to be blowing towards the good ship Forster. Thankfully the chances of Allen coming back appear to be slim to nil

don't be so sure

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

The winds seem to be blowing towards the good ship Forster. Thankfully the chances of Allen coming back appear to be slim to nil

just as long as your boyfriend doesn't come back......

 

[vcmazz]

The winds seem to be blowing towards the good ship Forster. Thankfully the chances of Allen coming back appear to be slim to nil

Absoulutely! Last thing we want is more expensive trips to Wembley, second tier football, staggering cup runs, a bit of fun and players with a decent attitude .

 

[shouldbee]

Heaven help us if Martin Allen came back, he might start signing players like Turner, Sodje, Burton and Campbell again !!

 

[TOMOGP]

Absoulutely! Last thing we want is more expensive trips to Wembley, second tier football, staggering cup runs, a bit of fun and players with a decent attitude .

And boring boot ball grab a goal then all 11 back in the area to defend for 20 minutes so they equalise in the last 2 mins

 

[Billy Hunt]

****ing hell Salford, you've started all this sh*t again.

 

[vcmazz]

And boring boot ball grab a goal then all 11 back in the area to defend for 20 minutes so they equalise in the last 2 mins

Who has successfully and who will successfully, do it playing like Ajax at this level d'ya reckon?

 

[KGB]

Actually it is interesting to read the comments of the players re MA's apparent 'tactics' quoted above.

Jay Tabb, who was supposed by some to have been disliked/dissed by MA, has specifically said that it was the players that caused the problems in missing promotion not MA.

Sorry I bit, BH. You are of course right......

 

[Billy Hunt]

Sorry I bit, BH. You are of course right......

No need to apologise. It's Salford who should apologise. To everyone. Ever.

ps. I have also read those comments from former players and I agree with vcmazz, ISB, shouldbee and all the other sensible people who like to have fun, but don't tell Salford.............. :looks:

Damn and blast! I've bitten. I think.

 

[Salford Bee]

Absoulutely! Last thing we want is more expensive trips to Wembley, second tier football, staggering cup runs, a bit of fun and players with a decent attitude .

Never did, Bottled it, Beat some poor sides, Don't recall bottling it as very fun, Yes players like Pratley :rolleyes

And boring boot ball grab a goal then all 11 back in the area to defend for 20 minutes so they equalise in the last 2 mins

Exactly

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

Salford you were a normal sensible young man until recently but you have lost your mind of late. You remind me of a deranged mercenary outlaw paid by Colonel Gaddaffi to ride a camel in support of diposed tirant dictator Andy Scott into the masses of Martin Allen fans speaking the truth.

:shrug:

 

[DavidgRushden]

Heaven help us if Martin Allen came back, he might start signing players like Turner, Sodje, Burton and Campbell again !!

How true. Amazing how such a successful and might I say it, a Manager who actually conversed with the supporters, is vilified by some supporters. Forster is not the answer. He is totally inexperienced, and would just be a cheaper option to employ. He may have had some good results initially, but long term we need an experienced Manager who can also lift this club to better things and also appreciate that Supporters are the lifeblood of the Club.

 

[Billy Hunt]

I'd be happy to let Forster have a crack at it. :shrug:

He has already said good things about the supporters in his press conferences and that means a lot to me.

 

[DavidgRushden]

The winds seem to be blowing towards the good ship Forster. Thankfully the chances of Allen coming back appear to be slim to nil

Should we take it then that you weren't happy when MA was performing miracles for our club, as well as appreciating and joining in with us Supporters?

 

[Billy Hunt]

Should we take it then that you weren't happy when MA was performing miracles for our club, as well as appreciating and joining in with us Supporters?

There's little point trying to converse with Salford on this matter. He HATES Martin Allen. :no:

 

[DavidgRushden]

I'd be happy to let Forster have a crack at it. :shrug:

He has already said good things about the supporters in his press conferences and that means a lot to me.

Sorry Billy, but I do believe he may be good in future years, but not for us at this time other than Assistant Manager to an experienced Manager to learn the ropes properly instead of being thrown in at the deep end.

 

[Billy Hunt]

Sorry Billy, but I do believe he may be good in future years, but not for us at this time other than Assistant Manager to an experienced Manager to learn the ropes properly instead of being thrown in at the deep end.

Fair do's.

Who knows what the board have been up to so far? It won't be Dennis Wise and that's a good thing.

 

[DavidgRushden]

There's little point trying to converse with Salford on this matter. He HATES Martin Allen. :no:

Why? The man was brilliant, and as for involving Supporters, the very best since Bill Dodgin Senior times.

 

[DavidgRushden]

Fair do's.

Who knows what the board have been up to so far? It won't be Dennis Wise and that's a good thing.

I hope you are right Billy, on the Dennis Wise thing, because that would be a disaster of Terry Butcher proportions.

 

[Billy Hunt]

Why? The man was brilliant, and as for involving Supporters, the very best since Bill Dodgin Senior times.

:shrug: No idea.

 

[FarnhamBee]

Sorry Billy, but I do believe he may be good in future years, but not for us at this time other than Assistant Manager to an experienced Manager to learn the ropes properly instead of being thrown in at the deep end.

If you're good enough you're experienced enough.

Seven points from nine :shrug:

(Well not seven points as such but you know what I mean)

 

[favershambee]

My biggest complaint against AS was the type of football on offer. NF has certainly improved in that area. I am prepared to see how he shapes up with the matches coming up this week. Whoever the final choice is there will be disagreements.

 

[DavidgRushden]

If you're good enough you're experienced enough.

Seven points from nine :shrug:

(Well not seven points as such but you know what I mean)

Yes, I agree with the success of points so far, but it is early days, and I would hate to see the enthusiasm sapped out of him by becoming a Manager before he is really ready.That is why I would like to see him as an Assistant Manager to an experienced Manager in order to learn the job properly instead of being burnt out too soon through lack of experiewnce. A bit like yourself really.We all expect brilliant photography from you each match because you are so experienced.

 

[horshambees]

Nicky Forster would be the first to admit that if he is offered the job he needs an experienced AM or a DoF to work alongside.Warburton would carry on in his coaching role.Who that person would be i do not know..................................yet......................................working on it

 

[vcmazz]

Never did, Bottled it, Didn't bottle it. Streched the players way beyond their natural abilities because he didn't have the resources to replace them. Massively over-achieved. Beat some poor sides, and some good ones. Don't recall bottling it nope, me neither. as very fun, Yes players like Pratley I take it that's Darren '101 subsequent Championship appearances' Pratley you're referring to?

We want our Mad Dog back :thetruth:.

 

[wayfarer172]

It aint fair. Since AS was given the gooner, I've had nobody to moan about. Aint life a bitch?

 

[Adam]

Never did, Bottled it, Beat some poor sides, Don't recall bottling it as very fun, Yes players like Pratley :rolleyes

Coppell bottled it if your theory is correct, I'm sure you would want him back. Sunderland, Barnsley, Bristol City, Swansea (not in play offs, but same season) and Forest were all good teams if I remember correctly. Your probably one of very few who didn't enjoy the ups and downs of MAs time in charge. Are you getting Pratley confused with Ricky Newman?

I would understand if you said that would prefer someone who plays better football and has experience of getting teams promoted from this division but you do exaggerate.

 

[The Pipe]

I beleive that Forster currently is doing a good job but lets face it we are only looking at a couple of weeks, I have no doubt that the board will be taking a load of pointers into consideration before making the appointment.

People have commented that Forster has no experience and that is of course very true however he has to gain experience somewhere and if results continue as they are then he could learn on the job.

Some on here have criticised MA and certainly I would never acuse him of playing the beautiful game, however I genuinley beleive he has matured since those heady days with us when play offs and cup runs were a given. Whether he would be the answer I dont know however he has excellent contacts ( apart from Mandaric!!) and with his pro football we would probably have first pickings on any future DJ Campbell.s that he might unearth. I would have no problem with his return and certainly the first home game would be interesting!!

However at the end of the day to quote Arsenal fans "in abee we trust" no pressure then abee!!!

 

[Debut1949]

People have commented that Forster has no experience and that is of course very true however he has to gain experience somewhere and if results continue as they are then he could learn on the job.

Almost all managers are former professional footballers.

A large majority of these managers spend a great deal of their time working closely with professional footballers on a daily basis.

Professional footballers therefore seem to be in an excellent position to make an informed assessment of what attributes a good manager needs and what are the characteristics of a bad manager.

Not all professional footballers will be equally interested in making, or equipped to make, such assessments. Some have lived their lives as "superstars", in reality immune from the nitty-gritty, whilst the careers of many are of a distinctly ephemeral / precarious nature that they never really reach first base in the assessment stakes.

After playing more than 700 games at a variety of clubs under a variety of managers NF has a wealth of experience in league football that few recent managers have ever had and it is doubtful whether working as an assistant manager for a period would enhance his abilty to do the job of manager or provide him with any more relevant experience. Indeed, under the wrong manager it could even diminish it or cause him to escape to another club!!

Of course, management is a different job from playing and the person managing needs to find his own way of working, guided by his past experience in professional football. Allocating his time between the team, scouting, the supporters, the media, family etc. is obviously a very important thing to get right but no amount of experience as an assistant is likely to make this any easier. NF has already shown that he is well aware of these issues and his past record of adaptation suggests that he is well equipped to work out the solution.

 

[Salford Bee]

We want our Mad Dog back :thetruth:.

I don't want him anywhere near the club!

His tactics were there for all to see in December - go two goals up, sit back - two turned to one. Complete failure. MK Dons, Cheltenham. With the side we had I expected us to be promoted/win the league. We did bottle it - two points clear, two games in hand. Pratley didn't want to be at the club - What do you expect from a F****m.

Coppell bottled it if your theory is correct, I'm sure you would want him back. Sunderland, Barnsley, Bristol City, Swansea (not in play offs, but same season) and Forest were all good teams if I remember correctly. Your probably one of very few who didn't enjoy the ups and downs of MAs time in charge. Are you getting Pratley confused with Ricky Newman?

I would understand if you said that would prefer someone who plays better football and has experience of getting teams promoted from this division but you do exaggerate.

Forest were one of the worst sides I saw at GP that season. Pratley didn't want to be there. Don't get me started on Newman.

To all Allen fans what did you make of his failures with MK Dons and Cheltenham?

 

[Billy Hunt]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

You're running on the spot, mate. Just end this nonsense. It's all been done to death. :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

 

[Bee4ever]

You're running on the spot, mate. Just end this nonsense. It's all been done to death. :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

Well said Billy Hunt .......let's hope the board do appoint MA then Salford can take his toys to the QPR messageboard and have a pop at Warnock

 

[vcmazz]

To all Allen fans what did you make of his failures with MK Dons and Cheltenham?

MKDonalds were in serious freefall when the Messiah took over. He stopped the rot and nearly got them promoted - once again, only missing on the coin flip of a lottery that is, the play-offs. He had a 50.9% win rate at MK which is phenomenal, and higher than Steve Coppell's was at Brentford. That's what I make of that particular failure.

As for Chelthenham, I would have thought keeping them anywhere in or above the Rothman's Isthmian League could be considered a success. You can't, afterall, polish a turd .

 

[KGB]

Agree with you totally VC.

Sadly, Salford has a very limited definition of success or failure - Coppell was a failure by his standards, as well, but Noades was a success. He would have also judged Jimmy Sirrell as being a failure at BFC.

 

[Salford Bee]

MKDonalds were in serious freefall when the Messiah took over. He stopped the rot and nearly got them promoted - once again, only missing on the coin flip of a lottery that is, the play-offs. He had a 50.9% win rate at MK which is phenomenal, and higher than Steve Coppell's was at Brentford. That's what I make of that particular failure.

As for Chelthenham, I would have thought keeping them anywhere in or above the Rothman's Isthmian League could be considered a success. You can't, afterall, polish a turd .

With their plush new stadium and the biggest budget in the League?

Ask Cheltenham fans. They consider him their worst ever manager. They wanted him out before the other controversy.

 

[vcmazz]

With their plush new stadium and the biggest budget in the League?

Ask Cheltenham fans. They consider him their worst ever manager. They wanted him out before the other controversy.

Quite some going when you consider they once had Bobby Gould . Anyway. Horses for courses and all that. He was brilliant at Brentford and would be again .

However, changing the subject a little. Has anyone else noticed that Nicky Forster seems to have signed several dozen players this week? Strange behaviour for a man who's only in charge on a daily basis :suspect:.

 

[rebus]

Strange behaviour for a man who's only in charge on a daily basis

We have two games a week for the next month and were down to the last 20 or so pros, which leaves little scope to fill the bench if injuries and suspensions occur in the coming days. The CEO has told NF, as interim manager, to act as if he were a permanent appointment to ensure stability at this time. This is sensible and right, so signing three players on a temporary basis to cover the aforementioned issues is fully endorsed by the BFC board.

 

[vcmazz]

We have two games a week for the next month and were down to the last 20 or so pros, which leaves little scope to fill the bench if injuries and suspensions occur in the coming days. The CEO has told NF, as interim manager, to act as if he were a permanent appointment to ensure stability at this time. This is sensible and right, so signing three players on a temporary basis to cover the aforementioned issues is fully endorsed by the BFC board.

Excellent. We'll get to see how good a judge of player NF is into the bargain (assuming they are his choice)?

 

[jlove]

Wouldn't surprise me to hear Warburton has had a hand in the two PL youngsters coming in. He must be well informed in that Academy department.

 

[thenightfly]

Forster is doing something right. How about Manager Poll 2.0 ?

(no slight, at all, on whoever organized the first!)

Personally speaking, I'd bet anyone he'll be the manager for the rest, and all, of next season. I can only hope he puts himself on the bench when we're 2-0 at Wembley with 15 minutes to go.

 

[nickybren]

Gary Johnson what ever club he has gone too he has always worked with the coaching staff that is at the club and never brought his own staff into the club, Johnson has got to be the best choice for the bees with NF as a assistant manager and NF gets his experiance as a manager role at the club he loves???/

 

[Salford Bee]

Our upturn continues with the good ship Forster. Long may this continue.

Nicky Forsters Barmy Army

 

[Bigbee]

Wouldn't surprise me to hear Warburton has had a hand in the two PL youngsters ":



Keep your dirty thoughts to your self .

 

[jlove]

Keep your dirty thoughts to your self .

You took your time!

 

[Bigbee]

You took your time!

Havent heard that from the missus for years.................

 

[BuzzBeeSi]

Gary Johnson now odds on at Victor Chandler