Operation Promotion

[sonofabee]

Can Bournemouth really win 9 on the bounce?

Hence my exclamation mark. His view was they're winning having not played well and now have four relatively easy games with Ritchie playing in position so optimistic.
I hope he's wrong and of they win 9 on the bounce off the back of losing 5 straight they deserve automatic promotion.

 

[ladbroke]

If we win all our remaining games, we would win league, right? And still Bournemouth might not be automatically promoted as Doncaster, minus losing to us, if win all would still have more points than Bournemouth...

 

[scruff puppy pup]

If we win all our remaining games, we would win league, right? And still Bournemouth might not be automatically promoted as Doncaster, minus losing to us, if win all would still have more points than Bournemouth...

Unlees Uwe changes his ways and goes morw gung ho, I can't see us winning six on the trot because I can't see us going six without a draw. 'Muff; on the other hand have some very potent attacking options.

 

[Kingston Bee]

Unlees Uwe changes his ways and goes morw gung ho, I can't see us winning six on the trot because I can't see us going six without a draw. 'Muff; on the other hand have some very potent attacking options.

Its not only about how you start games either, the number of points we have thrown away by bringing on more defensive players to defend a 1 goal lead against teams we have largely dominated with 20 minutes to go is not the way forward either. The County game last Friday being a prime example of this, could have easily ended up a draw.

 

[shouldbee]

Its not only about how you start games either, the number of points we have thrown away by bringing on more defensive players to defend a 1 goal lead against teams we have largely dominated with 20 minutes to go is not the way forward either. The County game last Friday being a prime example of this, could have easily ended up a draw.

Too true. Going with a lone striker at home invites pressure. It's now time for Uwe to go for it, faint heart never won ................ We have the players, we just need the right formation, perhaps we should let Harlee pick the team ?

 

[badgerbee]

Too true. Going with a lone striker at home invites pressure. It's now time for Uwe to go for it, faint heart never won ................ We have the players, we just need the right formation, perhaps we should let Harlee pick the team ?

I'm sure I read in one of the interviews on the official site that Matthew Benham had made a speech to the players when they were in Dubai stating that teams who 'went for it' and took chances going for wins rather than draws at the end of the season were statsitically more likely to get promoted (had a quick look butcouldn't find it again......might've been in a Sam Saunders interview??....)
.........now if a man who has made a fortune looking at this type of thing makes a suggestion like this, it's probably worth listening to........

Having said that, presumably it's all down to Uwe how we set up and how cautious we are, with no input from the owner........

 

[wayfarer172]

It's all ifs and buts now.If the truth be known all the clubs in the top 8 are saying the same things as us on the gpg are. All the clubs around us are starting to feel the pressure now, the only one that aint is Wallsall. Don't worry about the Muff.Team of carrot crunchers.I can't stand them or there poxy chairman. We have dropped 24 points at home this season. If only we could of got 8 points from them, we'd be sitting pretty now.

It's Brentford innit.

 

[Alan D]

It's all ifs and buts now.If the truth be known all the clubs in the top 8 are saying the same things as us on the gpg are. All the clubs around us are starting to feel the pressure now, the only one that aint is Wallsall. Don't worry about the Muff.Team of carrot crunchers.I can't stand them or there poxy chairman. We have dropped 24 points at home this season. If only we could of got 8 points from them, we'd be sitting pretty now.

It's Brentford innit.

Interesting as living in Bournemouth most fans of them reckon they will win their last four, which on paper they have every right to believe. If they did they would be 15 points in front of us, with a better goal difference. Will we get 16 points from our last six games? Personally I don't think we will, but there again I might be wrong in this roller coaster season. But basically I am slowly coming around to the view that it will have to be the play-off's and we all know what that means.

 

[AB]

It's all ifs and buts now.If the truth be known all the clubs in the top 8 are saying the same things as us on the gpg are. All the clubs around us are starting to feel the pressure now, the only one that aint is Wallsall. Don't worry about the Muff.Team of carrot crunchers.I can't stand them or there poxy chairman. We have dropped 24 points at home this season. If only we could of got 8 points from them, we'd be sitting pretty now.

It's Brentford innit.

Yet we still have by far the best home record in the division!

 

[twickersbee]

Having seen Shrewsbury's goals on the football league show Bournemouths tough game looks like being away to them. If the Shrews win this one Bournemouth will then only be able to get 82 points. This means if we win our last two home games we will need to find two more away wins including a legendary win at Sheff U. Ok it's a lot to ask but we would have taken this position at the start of the season. I hope our strikers have been working on their shooting practice. We have an abundance of talent in the squad now we have hopefully just over three weeks to really deliver and make it really happen this season.

Come on You Reds!!

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

If we win all our remaining games, we would win league, right? And still Bournemouth might not be automatically promoted as Doncaster, minus losing to us, if win all would still have more points than Bournemouth...

now thats a BIG if...........im reckoning on 3or4 wins at most, and that will probably not be enough.....we just dont have the firepower up front that bmuff have and thats where we will fall flat unfortunately......watching trotta and bwp leaves me thinking the worst

 

[brooks]

We've got the most difficult run-in. It's quite possible that we won't get more than two wins even if the team plays well in every game.

 

[brooks]

It's all ifs and buts now.If the truth be known all the clubs in the top 8 are saying the same things as us on the gpg are. All the clubs around us are starting to feel the pressure now, the only one that aint is Wallsall. Don't worry about the Muff.Team of carrot crunchers.I can't stand them or there poxy chairman. We have dropped 24 points at home this season. If only we could of got 8 points from them, we'd be sitting pretty now.

It's Brentford innit.

It's not the home games that let us down.

 

[FlyBee]

Way too much 'on paper' thinking going on. Lets just take each game as it comes. Forget the rest, we can't affect their results. Lets get behind the lads, come what may and if its meant to be then its meant to be.

 

[Wooburn Bee]

It's all ifs and buts now.If the truth be known all the clubs in the top 8 are saying the same things as us on the gpg are. All the clubs around us are starting to feel the pressure now, the only one that aint is Wallsall. Don't worry about the Muff.Team of carrot crunchers.I can't stand them or there poxy chairman. We have dropped 24 points at home this season. If only we could of got 8 points from them, we'd be sitting pretty now.

It's Brentford innit.

Our home record is best in league and probably one of best in the three leagues below premier league. Its away record that is an issue when on paper we should have the players to hurt teams on the break albeit teams seem to be setting themsleves up to almost play as an away team against us! At least Sheff Utd are not going to set themselves up that way which may favour us.

 

[Balders Bee]

At least Sheff Utd are not going to set themselves up that way which may favour us.

I don't know, they have big problem winning at home and if they watch a video of the MK Dons game they might just decide it's better to set themselves up as the away team.

 

[Humblebee]

Way too much 'on paper' thinking going on. Lets just take each game as it comes. Forget the rest, we can't affect their results. Lets get behind the lads, come what may and if its meant to be then its meant to be.

At last a bit of common sense. Our games are no more easy or difficult than any other club's.

 

[HoveBee]

We always tend to do things the hard way,i think its tradition!Take one game at a time and get behind the boys.
We are certainly in the mix and Donny at home last game,come on the bees!

 

[sgaz]

If we beat Coventry, Sheff Utd, and Donny in the run in, we fully deserve to go up. If we don't then we'll have to take it on the chin and admit we weren't quite good enough. It's as simple as that really, all in our own hands :shrug:

 

[badgerbee]

I'm sure I read in one of the interviews on the official site that Matthew Benham had made a speech to the players when they were in Dubai stating that teams who 'went for it' and took chances going for wins rather than draws at the end of the season were statsitically more likely to get promoted (had a quick look butcouldn't find it again......might've been in a Sam Saunders interview??....)
.........now if a man who has made a fortune looking at this type of thing makes a suggestion like this, it's probably worth listening to........

Having said that, presumably it's all down to Uwe how we set up and how cautious we are, with no input from the owner........

.......Knew I hadn't imagined it. Sam's comments regarding MB's input are here:

http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/news/article/bps-quotes-preston-16.03.13-721593.aspx

 

[grepo]

If we beat Coventry, Sheff Utd, and Donny in the run in, we fully deserve to go up. If we don't then we'll have to take it on the chin and admit we weren't quite good enough. It's as simple as that really, all in our own hands :shrug:

Agreed, but at least improve our chances of winning away by giving us the advantage of playing in an away kit that gives us visual advantage. Ditch the disastrous all black kit which may well turn out to have robed us of the chance of promotion.

 

[hobbsy]

Agreed, but at least improve our chances of winning away by giving us the advantage of playing in an away kit that gives us visual advantage. Ditch the disastrous all black kit which may well turn out to have robed us of the chance of promotion.

What rubbish, our kit has nothing to do with our poor away form. It's how we set up.

 

[smiffy superbee]

At last a bit of common sense. Our games are no more easy or difficult than any other club's.

In fact, I'd go a fair bit further.
Its time for the players, and fans, to show a bit of PMA.
We're currently the third best team in the league.
We have to play 5 teams below us......with only one above us, and that on the last day.
All to play for....we were dead and buried with 10 to play under M.A...... and won about 5 or 6.
We won our last 6 in 1992 to win the title.
Take one game at a time ....with the players determined to win it....then move onto the next.
We can do this....come on you Bees :bound:

 

[sonofabee]

In fact, I'd go a fair bit further.
Its time for the players, and fans, to show a bit of PMA.
We're currently the third best team in the league.
We have to play 5 teams below us......with only one above us, and that on the last day.
All to play for....we were dead and buried with 10 to play
under M.A...... and won about 5 or 6.
We won our last 6 in 1992 to win the title.
Take one game at a time ....with the players determined to win it....then move onto the next.
We can do this....come on you Bees :bound:

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[Bee68]

The journey doesn't finish till we play our last match at home be it promotion or the playoffs i certainly won't complain what has been a great year down at griffin park

 

[Wouldbee]

Surely this thread should be closed then locked away then burned for being a piece of very unsafe anxiety driven hyperbole.
You lot go and get jobs on local rags ramping up non stories for the sake of it.
*Retreats back under blanket till it's all over*

 

[grepo]

What rubbish, our kit has nothing to do with our poor away form. It's how we set up.

The choice of away kit has put us at a marginal disadvantage but its marginal errors and misjudgements that may have been influenced by the visual disadvantage of the kit colour that could prove the difference between promotion and failure to gain promotion.
Just one or two split second mis-timing or misplacement of passes that could have cost us one or two away points through the lengthy season could end up making all the difference. All i'm saying is please make sure we adopt a kit that gives us an advantage not a disadvantage. Man Utd seem to have appreciated that. Why can't we.

 

[AB]

The choice of away kit has put us at a marginal disadvantage but its marginal errors and misjudgements that may have been influenced by the visual disadvantage of the kit colour that could prove the difference between promotion and failure to gain promotion.
Just one or two split second mis-timing or misplacement of passes that could have cost us one or two away points through the lengthy season could end up making all the difference. All i'm saying is please make sure we adopt a kit that gives us an advantage not a disadvantage. Man Utd seem to have appreciated that. Why can't we.

When the team ran out at Carlisle on a very dull grey afternoon I did think that there wasn't much contrast between our kit and theirs. However, we lost because of poor defending and an inability to fashion shooting opportunities (and convert them) rather than passes being misplaced due to confusion over who was on our team.

 

[beeproud]

Just had the fright of my life. Saw the headline 'Wright-Phillips out for the season' on BBC Sport. I can't tell you the relief when I realised it was Bradley's brother. Corrrr blimey.

 

[The Pipe]

Should be ok as had my haircut day before going to an away match, last time it was Portsmouth and we had 4 wins and 2 draws in the 6 game spell

If we go up by rights it will be down to
My hair cut and will expect loads of thanks, if it goes tits up then honest it's not my fault!!!!!

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

Just had the fright of my life. Saw the headline 'Wright-Phillips out for the season' on BBC Sport. I can't tell you the relief when I realised it was Bradley's brother. Corrrr blimey.

id be a thousand times more worried if it had read clayton donaldson

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Doncaster v Tranmere and Walsall v Sheff U tomorrow

 

[westendbee]

It's all ifs and buts now.If the truth be known all the clubs in the top 8 are saying the same things as us on the gpg are. All the clubs around us are starting to feel the pressure now, the only one that aint is Wallsall. Don't worry about the Muff.Team of carrot crunchers.I can't stand them or there poxy chairman. We have dropped 24 points at home this season. If only we could of got 8 points from them, we'd be sitting pretty now.

It's Brentford innit.

6 draws and 2 defeats - i make that 18 points dropped at home so far , not 24. (Bournemouth have dropped 24 at home, but that's another matter.) I do agree that some of those draws could / should have been wins though.

 

[Matty D]

Tranmere, Carlisle and Notts Co all play Doncaster and Bouremouth in their remaning games - we could do with a strong finish to the season from all three, although based on Good Friday I wouldn't get my hopes up for County.

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Tranmere, Carlisle and Notts Co all play Doncaster and Bouremouth in their remaning games - we could do with a strong finish to the season from all three, although based on Good Friday I wouldn't get my hopes up for County.

they held Swindon to 0-0 so hopefully they can get a couple of draws

 

[beeproud]

id be a thousand times more worried if it had read clayton donaldson

Wright-Phillips scared me but I would have had a heart attack if it was Clayton.

 

[SCBee]

Should be ok as had my haircut day before going to an away match, last time it was Portsmouth and we had 4 wins and 2 draws in the 6 game spell

If we go up by rights it will be down to
My hair cut and will expect loads of thanks, if it goes tits up then honest it's not my fault!!!!!

Just be glad that you have enough hair to have it cut

 

[marvelous007]

Doncaster v Tranmere and Walsall v Sheff U tomorrow

We win tomorrow and bournmouth draw or lose with notts county then we put some real pressure on the top two again.

 

[grepo]

When the team ran out at Carlisle on a very dull grey afternoon I did think that there wasn't much contrast between our kit and theirs. However, we lost because of poor defending and an inability to fashion shooting opportunities (and convert them) rather than passes being misplaced due to confusion over who was on our team.

What’s more, the players are moving in front of a cluttered background, which might make the task even more difficult, especially if that background is a group of fans wearing similar colours. Judgements made on the basis of peripheral vision would only make the problem even harder. Games can be decided on the basis of a few decisions taken in a split-second. If teams want to help their players, making them stand out against the opposition might be a good step. And perhaps against the crowd too.

Georgeson M, Lampard J, & Georgeson J (2005). Kits, colours, and confusion: a pilot study of vision and football. Perception, 34 (5), 633-7 PMID: 15991699
Take head of the evidence and use it to our advantage, not disadvantage!!

 

[Artixbee]

Uwe was on BBC radio 5live just now, reckons 82 to 83 points (i.e. at least 4 wins) will be what's needed for automatic promotion.

 

[busheybee]

Just had the fright of my life. Saw the headline 'Wright-Phillips out for the season' on BBC Sport. I can't tell you the relief when I realised it was Bradley's brother. Corrrr blimey.

'Bradley Wright Phillips is bigger than Sean'. (whether he's wearing stripes or an all black away kit).

 

[Holysmit]

I just did the BBC predictator and we win the league by five points. I put us down to win 5 of our last six (we lose at Sheffield Utd) and did all the other results as I saw it.

I genuinely think we'll win our next 3 and fancy us to win at Hartlepool and at home to Donny!

 

[SlumanBee]

I just did the BBC predictator and we win the league by five points. I put us down to win 5 of our last six (we lose at Sheffield Utd) and did all the other results as I saw it.

I genuinely think we'll win our next 3 and fancy us to win at Hartlepool and at home to Donny!

I know we aren't far behind everyone but winning it by five points?!

I do like your positivity. Well done you.

 

[Holysmit]

I know we aren't far behind everyone but winning it by five points?!

I do like your positivity. Well done you.

I think we play Coventry and Crewe at the perfect time and our home record should be enough to see us past Donny and Pompey!

Hartlepool might be hard to call but with a few good wins before it, we'll pinch it!

 

[sonofabee]

What’s more, the players are moving in front of a cluttered background, which might make the task even more difficult, especially if that background is a group of fans wearing similar colours. Judgements made on the basis of peripheral vision would only make the problem even harder. Games can be decided on the basis of a few decisions taken in a split-second. If teams want to help their players, making them stand out against the opposition might be a good step. And perhapsagainst the crowd too.

Georgeson M, Lampard J, & Georgeson J (2005). Kitscolours, and confusion: a pilot study of vision and football. Perception, 34 (5), 633-7 PMID: 15991699
Take head of the evidence and use it to our advantage, not disadvantage!!

If it was April 1st I say quality but it ain't and you're embarrassing yourself. Spend the school holidays on your course work young man

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Uwe was on BBC radio 5live just now, reckons 82 to 83 points (i.e. at least 4 wins) will be what's needed for automatic promotion.

If we approach every game with same high tempo as did against Chelsea at home then 4 wins definitely within our grasp. We certainly have the quality

 

[Infatuated Bees Alter Ego]

I just did the BBC predictator and we win the league by five points. I put us down to win 5 of our last six (we lose at Sheffield Utd) and did all the other results as I saw it.

I genuinely think we'll win our next 3 and fancy us to win at Hartlepool and at home to Donny!

Portsmouth at home, will be extremely tough me thinks ... don't count on 3 points there

 

[hanworthbee]

We need to win the next three,.anything less and I think we'll end up in the play offs

 

[scruff puppy pup]

Portsmouth at home, will be extremely tough me thinks ... don't count on 3 points there

Agree

 

[stevil]

Portsmouth at home, will be extremely tough me thinks ... don't count on 3 points there

Totally agree.

Mind you , none of the games looks easy to me now!