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What is all this about strikers 'not winning a header all game' - I think people underestimate how difficult it is to out jump a defender while running backwards and having them on your shoulders! Grigg, Trotta and even Donaldson are not target men and as such do not have the ability to win every long ball pumped into them from Lee, Logan, Dean, Taylor and Craig. They all want ball into feet, you don't just hold ball up with your head. If we want to play that style then fine but needs a target man and even ten they won't win every header. For a professional centre-back in League 1 they are obviously going to have he ability to out jump a much smaller striker when they have the chance to run and jump and watch the ball all the way plus use them to jump. Our strikers want balls in the air only when they are in space or from a cross so they can finish, not everytime the ball comes anywhere near them.
Also, it appears that running socks off means you are unable to be criticised for a poor performance. Donaldson was awful, he lost the ball on numerous occasions, failed to pick hardly any passes, missed 2/3 good chances for headers and decided to try speculative (weak) long range shots at every opportunity when there were others better place.
Forshaw was best player but even he let himself down with awful set piece delivery .
Need a win badly on Sunday....I actually think we will get one. Hopefully last night was kick up backside required.
whyteleafebee76
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Because we had Barron and Craig who can both play at left back.....and Logan actually, in my opinion another left back would have been a waste of a loan signing.
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We looked so unbalanced, the left side seemed to be a case of square pegs in round holes. There is a definitely a lack of cutting edge in the side, which considering the players we have at our disposal is baffling.
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Lack of cutting edge is due to our strikers playing either wide left/right....
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Sorry have not read the whole thread, but watched the game on TV, in between running back and forth to the loo, whilst suffering from a severe bout of gastric flu. From my view point I thought we were the better of two fairly average teams until the penalty. Despite the stats saying we had more attempts and efforts on target, we really didn't force a half decent save from their keeper.
No complaints with the penalty, the only surprise to me that he waited so long to punish the blatant amount of shirt pulling that was going on in both boxes. After the penalty there was only one winner for me as Orient always looked dangerous when they attacked.
Hugely disappointing and they way things are panning out we will be lucky to finish in the top half this season. For me the jury is still out on Grigg and Filo and I hope we don't get turned over by the tribunal for the fee. To me it has Weston written all over it again. A lot of money for very little. As for the Liverpool youngster I get the feeling he will be too lightweight for the cut and thrust of League 1. Hope to be proved wrong on all accounts, but so far we are really struggling, with only three wins since we got out of jail against Pompey last season.
No complaints with the penalty, the only surprise to me that he waited so long to punish the blatant amount of shirt pulling that was going on in both boxes. After the penalty there was only one winner for me as Orient always looked dangerous when they attacked.
Hugely disappointing and they way things are panning out we will be lucky to finish in the top half this season. For me the jury is still out on Grigg and Filo and I hope we don't get turned over by the tribunal for the fee. To me it has Weston written all over it again. A lot of money for very little. As for the Liverpool youngster I get the feeling he will be too lightweight for the cut and thrust of League 1. Hope to be proved wrong on all accounts, but so far we are really struggling, with only three wins since we got out of jail against Pompey last season.
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Playing a make shift left back and then playing with no proper width on the left hand side was also baffling. And making Clayton run into the channels is not what I mean by width.
It offered nothing going forward and whenever the ball dropped loose into that area the Orient right back and winger had acres of space to run at Craig. To be fair he coped pretty well, but it was last ditch stuff and lucky they didnt make more from it.
It offered nothing going forward and whenever the ball dropped loose into that area the Orient right back and winger had acres of space to run at Craig. To be fair he coped pretty well, but it was last ditch stuff and lucky they didnt make more from it.
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We don't possess any width on the left hand side. Bidwell will really help but ironically the only natural left footer we have who could play in front of him is Barron.
That might not be too daft an diea away from home but at Griffin Park - no way.
Despite the influx of loanees, some good others not so, we still haven't been able to fill the McAleney gap and I see no real answer until January.
We have the following loanees
Taylor - 1 month
Saville - Jan
Nugent - Jan
Texeira - Jan
Trotta - Jan
Filo - Season long
Maybe we can mutually end Nugent's loan and who knows what will happen to Taylor but I would be surprised if we manage to get that pacy wideman this side of Christmas. Shame as that would aid the squad immeasurably.
That might not be too daft an diea away from home but at Griffin Park - no way.
Despite the influx of loanees, some good others not so, we still haven't been able to fill the McAleney gap and I see no real answer until January.
We have the following loanees
Taylor - 1 month
Saville - Jan
Nugent - Jan
Texeira - Jan
Trotta - Jan
Filo - Season long
Maybe we can mutually end Nugent's loan and who knows what will happen to Taylor but I would be surprised if we manage to get that pacy wideman this side of Christmas. Shame as that would aid the squad immeasurably.
homelessbee
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I thought Teixeira could play on the left of a front three, aswell as well as centrally?
finsbury_bee
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Dallas is a wide player, he could play on the left, couldn't he? It's all the rage to have your wide players cut inside.
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sonofabee
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Back end of last season he looked lost when he started left side of midfield, struggling which game it was but was anonymous and even after being swapped over was taken off.
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Bill Benn
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Carlisle A started left looked better 2nd half when switched to right in a very poor game
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Think he needs to establish himself on the preferred right berth at the moment. He was superb pre season and showed real potential, seems to have lost a lot of condifence post the Derby debacle. Hope he can find his mojo again and really challenge for a place this season as I believe the basic talent is there.
sonofabee
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Agree, maybe we expected too much after a couple of excellent performances when used sparingly last year - he was my man of the match in the Bradford cup replay and excellent when he came on as sub a few weeks later. Uwe said he was one for the future so guess we just hope he develops into the quality wide player he's shown the potential he could be.
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Teixeira probably could do it but it'd be a massive waste of his ability in the middle.
Herbert
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because hes played out of position too often or is brought on when we are chasing a game and lumping the ball forward,which doesn't help his game,as against orient
finsbury_bee
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It's difficult for a player like Dallas to get any momentum to really show what he can do. Has he even played back to back games? I also seem to remember him playing left side of midfield for his previous club in some of the clips going round when we signed him. Maybe mistaken on that though. Players are in and out of the team so often it's no wonder we're not playing like a team.
sonofabee
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No argument with anything apart from the fact he is a right sided forward
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Fair point, not saying he can't offer anything, just saying I haven't seen anything so far
Herbert
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Whenever he came on last season he showed exactly what we can expect of him when played in his right position,great potential.
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.............yep.............glad we haven't got rubbish players to get us top of the league.............