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The people who you say are negative, make as much sense as you positive people. Its clear if we had a good chance of getting promotion we needed to get a good start. We have managed 8 points out of 18 agsinst 6 of the so call weaker sides. Sorry but not impress as i dont think the manager and couching staff have learn anything fron last season. I wasnt a fan of Scott's and to be honest Im not sure about Rosler, comes across as a very man, but Im not that sure he is a very good manager.
 

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I know I'm not the most positive of fans - probably because I've watched Brentford for 42 years and only one of those has been in a higher division - but despite all the rowing with eachother on here, the saddest thing for me is that so many supporters accept the way we are and perform.

Maybe the majority aren't as old as me and havent had to 'accept' as many seasons as I have had to endure but I just cannot 'accept' any longer.

One thing we should all be proud of is the fantastic bond and following the fans give - if the players for all those seasons Ive watched had matched the support given off the field we would be Premiership contenders.

We are an average side at best, with the biggest (and last) opportunity with the owners backing of getting it right - thats what I cannot accept.

Mate,

You're a diehard, I've plenty of time of time for you and bruv but don't quite get why you can't accept it now? ( I trump you by 2 years of following us)

My take is that money doesn't always fix things immediately as teams need time to gell together, results don't always match the performance and vice versa.
This season I reckon we have in the main a very talented group of individuals that Uwe has chosen and is looking to play together and deliver attractive, winning football.
To date, I reckon he's still trying to find the best permutaion of players but taking longer than is ideal as some arrived a bit later than planned and partly because he has an embarrassment of riches and options compared to previous Managers.
I have seen some superb passages of football that have made me proud and optimistic that we're definitely on the way to becoming a very good side at this level. We play football the right way and that's a positive. On the down side, we don't look like scoring scrappy goals and the defence while comfortable on the ball don't seem happy when players get at them and I think for £150K some fans expected a world class centre back not an experienced Championship stopper.
I differ from you as I can accept what's happening at the moment, we're making progress and while not as quickly as all of us would like, I'll suffer another season if I have to, given I've done 45 of largely dross at the lower levels?
I see a manager who's far from perfect but - isn't frightened to try things, has a team playing good football, admits when he's got it wrong, acts quickly to take corrective action during a game when it's not working.
 

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Brentford keep breaking my heart

Fantastic performance from the away fans again

All this expectation is a nightmare, it makes the defeats so hard to take. I wouldn't change it (having a good team therefore expectation ) for the world but i am gutted about last night GUTTED.
I was treated to a night in the posh seats and a very small consolation was that the people there to a man and woman said we were superb, robbed and nailed on for top 6. I got to thank Matthew Benham and for that i am grateful. He looked as gutted as me as did the rest of the Brentford party to be fair. Bee H is a dish btw. :wave:

As for the game, a predictable end after not taking our chances. Was anyone really suprised they nicked it ?

We looked good though and must keep the passing game going and commit to it 100% . Hopefully we will get to where to want to be if that happens.
 

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I actually thought Scott's bitterness made his analysis of the game on the money though, mostly you would have had some ex player pundit saying how unlucky we were and a few other cliches. What he said about the actual 90 minutes of football was accurate even if people dont like to hear it.

Sadly, I have to agree.
 

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Not sure if you were at the game tonight, but for 5 mins solid the away terrace chanted 'Uwe Rosler's barmy army' and were fully supportive of him throughout tonight's the game.

Once again, the PC Brigade minority tarnish the majority of fans who are fully behind Rosler

From my viewpoint in the main stand it was clear that Uwe has massive majority backing. Unusual to see such a reaction to a - going behind and B- losing. Well done Bees good in voice if not in number, i wanted to run* across pitch and join in

*walk
 

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Think it’s time Tom Adeyemi had a chance instead of Dave – as someone else said he is neat and tidy at times but lacks that killer threat IMO – We know what we can expect from Dave and he hasn’t progressed in his time here – bit too similar to Douglas IMO – We need someone with a bit more.
 

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Sadly, I have to agree.

I don't think he said much that was factually wrong either, he got a lot of waanking material out of his words, he loved every minute of it, same old arrogant tosspot.
 
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I know I'm not the most positive of fans - probably because I've watched Brentford for 42 years and only one of those has been in a higher division - but despite all the rowing with eachother on here, the saddest thing for me is that so many supporters accept the way we are and perform.

Maybe the majority aren't as old as me and havent had to 'accept' as many seasons as I have had to endure but I just cannot 'accept' any longer.
One thing we should all be proud of is the fantastic bond and following the fans give - if the players for all those seasons Ive watched had matched the support given off the field we would be Premiership contenders.
We are an average side at best, with the biggest (and last) opportunity with the owners backing of getting it right - thats what I cannot accept.

I've done a bit longer than you GB but I find that I am neutral about everything at GP now. I wouldn't get too excited if we got promotion this season nor would I be seriously pissed off if we took the drop. I just think that after
46 years or so of this I am immune to everything. Players, managers, the board change - as will the ground soon - but the hard core of support remains and that is despite us being serial non-achievers. That much we can be proud of.
 

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I thought we played some good football last night but if you don't put the ball in the net you don't win! To me our start to the season has been average at best and if we hadn't got that late winner on Sat then IMO that start would have been very bad. People say we have made progress and maybe we have in the style of football we have played but we still have the same old problems in putting the ball in the net! Therefore, this is not a great deal of progress to me.

I hope Uwe can turn this round but he has had over 12 months now to get the right forwards in and I don't think he has (IMO). Personally I don't think this team with the current formation and personal will get us into the play offs but I really hope I am proved wrong.
 

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What worried me about CD and Hayes last night was their reluctance to get into the box and the 6 yard box, both appear happier roaming and being clever outside of it, Farid strikes me as a lad who wants to be in the thick of it and go in hard for that tap in. The few times we overlapped but there was nobody square to pass to, it's pretty stuff but is it going anywhere, we controlled the Bury game and never looked like winning, I thought the same last night.

Yep Logan got in on the right again and again but the options in the box were limited. Should have have been 3 -4 players steaming in to the 6 -10 yard area but too often he had to try and thread the eye of the needle.
 

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Quite surprised 500+ Bees faithful turned up. At least Nick Logan wasn't alone.

I was all day though !!

was in the city from one then coach and horses from 430-6 and didn't see a single bee :eek:. Remember the days there would be 3-400 bees in that pub alone.
 

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Which is why I wouldn't mind Adeyemi replacing Dave in the diamond. We need more people in the box especially when Clayton is running the channels and Toumani never does that

Fair point but i thought we lost our shape when Adeyemi came on. May just be coincidence that though.
 

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Personally, I don't think you are ever very near the truth.

We are playing the best football for years BUT lack penetration in the final third at present. Once that happens you'll be amazed by the results. It shouldn't be THAT difficult to put right.

I pray that you are right and i think you are.
 

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Mate,

My take is that money doesn't always fix things immediately as teams need time to gell together, results don't always match the performance and vice versa.

Spot on. IIRC the first year under Wally we somehow found ourselves top of the league or thereabouts after about 10 games of winning points but playing poorly and somehow fluking games. At the end of the season we were relegated. These things will generally work themselves out over a full season and I hope we see the opposite to that season this year. A good start on the overall play front without cutting edge but definitely moving in right direction.
 
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Last night was very frustrating and, therefore there is a lot of negativity on here. I think that is a real shame because there were a lot of positives out there.

While i think it is fair to say we lacked penetration and Farid being dropped to the bench was, with hindsight a mistake, there were many excellent performances from players who to me show real promise.

I have watched Brentford since the 70's and seen plenty of dross players and dreadful performances. Last night was different. The fact that we dominated most of the game, played decent football, created lots of chances and restricted the home side to 1 chance can't be all bad can it?
 

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Mistake to play Hayes......Farid should have started.......if it did not work ..then bring on Hayes......bit gutted really....could have gone 3rd as well...ah well.....YOU REDS.....
 

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Just for interest, see below for official Orient match reporter's verdict of last night's games:

SMASH AND GRAB Leyton Orient climbed out of the bottom four with the
unlikeliest of victories on Thursday night against high-flying
Brentford.

In front of the Live Sky Sports cameras, the O’s were forced to defend
for long periods,
before super sub, Ryan Brunt, popped up with a late
winner.

The big-spending Bees made all the early running and it was stand-in
keeper
, Ryan Allsop, getting an extended run in the team due to Jamie
Jones’s continued absence, who stood between the O’s and a thrashing.

Martin Rowlands was close to opening the scoring for the O’s in the
second minute, but it was largely one-way traffic with Allsop doing
well to block several efforts from Clayton Donaldson, and a wickedly
inswinging Jake Bidwell free-kick.

Orient at least hit back after the break and the strangely quiet Dean
Cox teed up Lee Cook on 49 minutes, but Adam Forshaw made the faintest
of touches to deny the O’s an opening goal.

But, again Brentford laid siege on the Orient goal and sometime
‘kamikaze-type’ defending was required
with Ben Chorley and skipper,
Nathan Clarke, outstanding.

On 69 minutes former Charlton man, Martin Hayes missed the Bees’ best
chance of the evening, firing wide from close range,
and the O’s soon
made them pay when former Bee, Rowland’s, through ball from a
half-cleared Clarke throw, found Brunt, who did well to turn his
marker, Tony Craig, and slotted home the winner past Simon Moore.

Orient were forced to endure a tough last fifteen minutes and Allsop
again showed his mettle to deny a clean-through Donaldson
, and said
post-match: ‘We had to ride our luck at times as we were under the
cosh in the first-half
. We managed not to concede, which pushed us on
for the second-half and we got the goal – which I thought we deserved.
Two clean sheets for the defence is very much of a confidence booster.
It’s a very tight league with fine margins that win you or lose you
games – that little mistake can lose you a game – that bit of luck can
win you a game.’

Manager, Russell Slade, added: ‘It was a tough first-half as I thought
we were a bit edgy – possibly because the TV cameras were here - and
we were not getting to our opponents and giving them too much time on
the ball. But, we galvanized ourselves and it was a very competitive
game second-half and we came out on top in a tight game’.

Having gained their first home points, Slade added: ‘I think it was
‘key’ that we stayed in the game when we were under pressure. It is a
good Brentford side – and so it should be for the amount of money that
has been spent
to put the side together. But, we stayed in there and
in the second-half we got competitive. There were great performances.
We defended really well. The centre-halves continue to make progress –
blocking and stopping things. We looked resolute at the back. In the
end, it was their back four that crumbled at the crucial time’.

Slade paid tribute to match winner Brunt: ‘I am very pleased for Ryan
as he hasn’t had too much time out on the pitch. He has started to
develop and the work [assistant manager] Kevin Nugent is doing with
him is starting to pay off. And, ‘lo and behold’ he gets the
all-important goal tonight. I am very pleased for the lad’.

Slade also praised Allsop: ‘It’s incredible – really. He has been
thrown in there. He wouldn’t be your first-choice keeper on paper.
But, he is not doing himself any harm. His hands have been really good
and his kicking is class. I am chuffed to bits that he decided to come
here and I think we’ve got a good goalkeeper’.

Orient will be facing one of Slade’s former clubs, Yeovil Town, this
Tuesday, (kick-off 7-45pm) and he concluded: ‘We must show that same
spirit, same attitude and see if we can dig another one out. Everyone
was saying before the game ‘what a great start Brentford had made’.
But, we are now two points behind them – with a game in hand’.
 

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Last night was very frustrating and, therefore there is a lot of negativity on here.

I don't understand these complaints on here about "negativity." We played an inferior side, we bossed them and we lost 'cos we couldn't find the back of the net. And this is a pattern that has repeated since last season. We have played 6 league games, none of them against top sides, unless you believe Yeovil will maintain their current form for the rest of the season, and we have 8 points and are comfortably mid-table. It is also clear that, as with last season, we are struggling to find the back of the net. Given all that, why shouldn't Brentford supporters raise issues with our performance on here? It's called criticism and it can be constructive.
One of the happy bunch posted something about hate shown toward Uwe. Have you lot actually read the posts on this thread? People are nearly all very understanding and generous toward Uwe. We're past post #270 and I've read maybe two or three that actually call for him to go.
This is a forum, a discussion board. If you can't respond to people disagreeing with you without characterising them as if they were poison, then you should go elsewhere.

And Mr. Pipe, be careful, it may be that the usual suspects might be right. I recall a month before Andy Scott's sacking, being characterised as one of "the usual suspects" for wanting him out.
I'm not for removing Uwe, but I remain non-plussed. He may just turn out to be an ordinary manager, not bad, but not good enough either. Which is kind of what we are like right now as a football side. At least, that's what the results say.
 

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Thought we were the better team by miles, particularly in the first half, played some nice stuff. Unbelieveable result to lose that game - to still be 0-0 at half time was gutting. Gotta believe if we keep playing like this then we'll start taking chances and the results will start coming. Expect Alagui will start at Bournemouth. Still not convinced about the diamond formation but hopefully will be proved wrong later - at least we are positive and playing 2 strikers week in week out. Great support again last night. How bitter is Scott? Got every little dig in that he could.
 

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Personally, I don't think you are ever very near the truth.

We are playing the best football for years BUT lack penetration in the final third at present. Once that happens you'll be amazed by the results. It shouldn't be THAT difficult to put right.
 

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Mate,

You're a diehard, I've plenty of time of time for you and bruv but don't quite get why you can't accept it now? ( I trump you by 2 years of following us)

My take is that money doesn't always fix things immediately as teams need time to gell together, results don't always match the performance and vice versa.
This season I reckon we have in the main a very talented group of individuals that Uwe has chosen and is looking to play together and deliver attractive, winning football.
To date, I reckon he's still trying to find the best permutaion of players but taking longer than is ideal as some arrived a bit later than planned and partly because he has an embarrassment of riches and options compared to previous Managers.
I have seen some superb passages of football that have made me proud and optimistic that we're definitely on the way to becoming a very good side at this level. We play football the right way and that's a positive. On the down side, we don't look like scoring scrappy goals and the defence while comfortable on the ball don't seem happy when players get at them and I think for £150K some fans expected a world class centre back not an experienced Championship stopper.
I differ from you as I can accept what's happening at the moment, we're making progress and while not as quickly as all of us would like, I'll suffer another season if I have to, given I've done 45 of largely dross at the lower levels?
I see a manager who's far from perfect but - isn't frightened to try things, has a team playing good football, admits when he's got it wrong, acts quickly to take corrective action during a game when it's not working.

:imwith:

We are anything but average. Our football is from a higher league most of the time but we aren't quite there in the final third. I'll "accept" this too as once we get it sorted we're on our way, hopefully this season but next at the worst.

Nick, you missed Crewe due to your disappointment over Yeovil (which is your right of course) but missed a corker but we are going the right way, our squad is the strongest I've known (just missing a DJCampbell type) we are creating lots of chances and it'll come right.

We all hoped for a flying start - it has been anything but, though this is a close division and I dont expect there will be much more than 12 points between 6th and 6th from bottom this year, when all is done & dusted.

Keep the faith as a former manager once said :shrug:
 

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We remind me a lot of a Paulo Sousa team. We play a lot of nice football but seem to think if we just keep prodding the ball sideways something will happen but that just isn't the case. Yes, we created a lot of chances but they were all half chances. As has been said, we need to see much more of the midfielders steaming into the box to try and get on the end of things but they don't seem to recognise they have a role to play inside the box.
 

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We remind me a lot of a Paulo Sousa team. We play a lot of nice football but seem to think if we just keep prodding the ball sideways something will happen but that just isn't the case. Yes, we created a lot of chances but they were all half chances. As has been said, we need to see much more of the midfielders steaming into the box to try and get on the end of things but they don't seem to recognise they have a role to play inside the box.

Agree with this. It really troubles me that we play like Barcelona in non-threatening areas of the pitch. Pass, pass, pass (slowly, slowly, slowly), breaks down and lose possession - and around it goes again.

The really disturbing thing is that the opposition have worked out what we're about. They know that if they get solid behind the ball and we don't get an early goal, that's it. We won't go into their box. Everyone seems to be happy to let us have possession knowing that we won't hurt them.
 

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Still can't believe that we lost. We dominated the game for long periods of the game and were by far the better team but we need to put the ball in the back of the net on a more regular basis! We played some good passing football and had lots of attempts at goal so I'm still hopeful for the rest of the season.
 

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Well. I'm going to disagree with the majority. I thought it was an excellent performance but when a team sets up at home as if they were playing at Old Trafford in the cup, with 8 men permanently in their own penalty area fighting like mad for a 0-0 and perhaps a lucky break, it's always going to be hard to make the breakthrough. It's also a pretty sad state of affairs that Russell Slade thinks he needs to play like that at home - I'd hate to be an Orient supporter at the moment.

Their goal was a yard offside so they didn't really beat us and as was said elsewhere, if we'd have put in a performance only half as good as we did and won 1-0, this thread would be full of promotion talk and how brilliant we are.

I also disagree with those who thought Scott was making sense. Really? "I felt Brentford should have taken the game to them more in the first half"? I thought the man spouted utter sh*te from start to finish.

Yes there were lots of chances but not clear cut chances because Orient shut up shop after one minute and did it very effectively. I hearby declare this thread, in the main, bollox :sorted:
 

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IMO we just need to up the tempo a bit and maybe on occasion be a bit more direct. sometimes we try to be too pretty when a hoof into the box is needed, and vice versa. our best chances come on the all too rare times we really run at the oppo defence, if we give them a chance to get men between the ball and goal thats when we struggle to create really clear cut chances. maybe its because a few players are struggling to learn this more technical approach, let alone put it into practice at a decent enough speed. its all the more frustrating because we are so close to being a really good team. uwe has brought in virtually a whole new squad, look at the quality of the starting XI now compared to the last team scott (who really took the piss on tv last night the ****) put out and i think his tactics will work given a bit more time.

i'd take dave out of the line up tuesday, replace him with o'connor and push douglas further up and also bring farid back instead of hayes.

Good post
 

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Do we really have as big a budget as Andy Scott perpetuated? I thought it was somewhere in the middle but there seems to be a perception we are splashing the cash. I would say our wage bill isn't as far away from Orient's seeing as they have Lisbie, Cook and Rowlands on their books. They won't be on peanuts
Its roughly the same budget as Scott had apparently
 

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Agree with this. It really troubles me that we play like Barcelona in non-threatening areas of the pitch. Pass, pass, pass (slowly, slowly, slowly), breaks down and lose possession - and around it goes again.

The really disturbing thing is that the opposition have worked out what we're about. They know that if they get solid behind the ball and we don't get an early goal, that's it. We won't go into their box. Everyone seems to be happy to let us have possession knowing that we won't hurt them.

That's rubbish. We were all over Orient and had numerous chances in threatening areas. The style of football was superb at times and with Forrester and Forshaw driving us on Orient didn't really have an answer to it. I would much rather we stuck to this philosophy
 

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Was proud of the team last night and clapped them off (together with probably 400 of the 500 away fans there)

Left feeling totally gutted of the injustice of the whole experience.

My friend who came with me (who is a Liverpool fan) was very impressed with Brentford (he singled out Forrester, Logan and Douglas as impressing) and asked which player out of the 11 who started I would like to see go.

I honestly could not answer that question as I never seen a Brentford team blessed with so much creativity in all areas.

Look at the stats on the BBC report http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19498811

I am absolutely convinced in the direction the team is going. Just need that magic dust, luck and exciting days are ahead.
 

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That's rubbish. We were all over Orient and had numerous chances in threatening areas. The style of football was superb at times and with Forrester and Forshaw driving us on Orient didn't really have an answer to it. I would much rather we stuck to this philosophy

That's rubbish, is it? If you had to watch us every week you would realise that this is a recurring theme. We have loads of possession but do nothing with it. We pass the ball to the edge of the box and then ..... and then we pass again - chance gone. If you think it's rubbish then fair enough, but I would ask you to examine our goal scoring record against our possession stats. This is a poor start to the season as our points tally attests.

I really like the two players that you mention and hope that they can make a difference because it needs to change.
 

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I doubt that.

Sorry to disappoint but it is the same budget that Scott was given during his ill fated last season with us. Matthew Benham has been very clear about this.

On a comps basis, I'd put it at roughly 18-20% above that of Leyton Orient's and probably nearer to lower end of that range.

Hope that helps.
 
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Personally, I don't think you are ever very near the truth.

We are playing the best football for years BUT lack penetration in the final third at present. Once that happens you'll be amazed by the results. It shouldn't be THAT difficult to put right.

Nailed on post; the close control and the 'vision' are all as good a standard as you will ever see in League One; and the end product will come.
 

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Sorry to disappoint but it is the same budget that Scott was given during his ill fated last season with us. Matthew Benham has been very clear about this.

On a comps basis, I'd put it a roughly 18-20% above that of Leyton Orient's and probably nearer to lower end of that range.

Hope that helps.

King Bee,

Please clarify for me, are you saying that URs' budget this season is the same as AS had in his last season?
 

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That's rubbish. We were all over Orient and had numerous chances in threatening areas. The style of football was superb at times and with Forrester and Forshaw driving us on Orient didn't really have an answer to it. I would much rather we stuck to this philosophy

We have the some problem as last year, we never look like we are going to score, and with our formation if we go behind thats it. They will just sit behind the ball and say score if you can, and we can't. You maybe able to accept another mid table finish, but with MB backing at the moment this maybe our last chance of making the championship. I've supported Brentford now for nearly 45 years and seen us one in the top two divisions and even then we sold our biggest asset before the season started. We have the same problem now then we had when Uwe started, its the one position I was expecting him to sort out as an Ex German international striker. I just cant see where its going to improve in the forward positions. Most will disagree with this and thats there right, but this how I feel at the moment. I hope to be proved wrong and we go on a great unbeaten run scoring lots of goals.
 

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Sorry to disappoint but it is the same budget that Scott was given during his ill fated last season with us. Matthew Benham has been very clear about this.

On a comps basis, I'd put it a roughly 18-20% above that of Leyton Orient's and probably nearer to lower end of that range.

Hope that helps.

Sorry no chance, clubs are now saying how large a budget we have, that was never mention under Scott. And by the way I'm not sticking up for Scott.
 

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Sorry no chance, clubs are now saying how large a budget we have, that was never mention under Scott. And by the way I'm not sticking up for Scott.

So you take the word of 'other clubs' over that of our owner?
 

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The playing budget this season is identical to AS's
 

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We have the some problem as last year, we never look like we are going to score, and with our formation if we go behind thats it. .

Apart from 5 against Crewe and coming back from 0-2 against Walsall but apart from that you're 100% right!
 

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So you take the word of 'other clubs' over that of our owner?

I haven't heard anything from our owner, and anyway it also depends on what the rest on the divison is spending, we maybe spending the same as under Scott, but we dont know if clubs in our division have reduced there budget, making us one of the bigger spenders.
 

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Apart from 5 against Crewe and coming back from 0-2 against Walsall but apart from that you're 100% right!

did we come from behind and win, no. And scoring 5 in one game doesn't make up for the lack of goals per chances in other games. So as usual your 100% right. He still hasn't won after going behind. We agree on some things and disagree on many more.
 

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The playing budget this season is identical to AS's

But you have to look at other teams in our division to make a comparisons. Orient may have had the same budget as us in 2009, but now they may have reduced it by 25%, making us a bigger spending club in 2012.
 

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I haven't heard anything from our owner, and anyway it also depends on what the rest on the divison is spending, we maybe spending the same as under Scott, but we dont know if clubs in our division have reduced there budget, making us one of the bigger spenders.

You questioned the size of the budget. You got a reply. Its still on par with AS's fateful season. Now you question whether we have a budget that means we're one of the highest spenders? Let's just say we have a competitive budget which could, possibly should, mean we have a bloody good chance of the Play Offs.
 

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Rather than saying Hayes was excellent to the cameras maybe Uwe shoulda taken a leaf out of the AS book of management and slated him and blamed him for the defeat. He should have said how he tells him what to do in training but he just wont listen and if he continues not to listen then he'll be unemployed and I'm so ****ing brilliant myself blah blah blah.

Seriously, Andy Scott and his Bruce Forsyth hairstyle was on a wind up tonight.

Great post mate. it was the cock sure way that the presenter blamed Hayes. Rosler did what a good manager does, of course Rosler knew what we all knew that Hayes did not have a good game, why the **** some of you have rounded on Hayes is beyond me , only two weeks ago it was " what a great signing". He aint match fit, Rosler said on the box that he needed game time.
The game went tits up , we have to move on. Give Rosler a break, cos the football that he playes compared with what Scott could produce is a no brainer in my eyes. I hardly saw Rowlands in the game last night, apart from a hopefull punt that got the goal. I know that if I was an Oriont fan then I would be worried
 

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Matthew Benham tweeted that he thought we were very unlucky and it was a good performance.

I did not see the game, but having scanned the various reports here it seems a usual mix of hyperbole, knee jerk crap. Most seem to have an agenda of either targeting specific players, or an anti Rosler stance. Their opinion. The significant opinion is that of Mr Benham. He seems a smart thoughtful man with clubs best interest at heart. I tend to back his judgement given the success he has made of his life.

Everyone else's view on this is just that, a view and opinion and amounts to the sum square root of f**k all generally.

Now get behind the team. ( my view)
 

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Sorry no chance, clubs are now saying how large a budget we have, that was never mention under Scott. And by the way I'm not sticking up for Scott.

There is always an element of kidology most fans miss with these statements. Martin Allen used that to great effect last season but his budget was roughly on par with ours.

Listen, I'm sure you're not sticking up for Scott but I wanted to dismiss this falsehood that somehow Scott didn't have the resources that Uwe had. I can assure you that they were both given the same budgets.
 

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You questioned the size of the budget. You got a reply. Its still on par with AS's fateful season. Now you question whether we have a budget that means we're one of the highest spenders? Let's just say we have a competitive budget which could, possibly should, mean we have a bloody good chance of the Play Offs.

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Orient match reports

what is wrong with peiple in here.how are people coming out with Rosler dont know what hes doing.Roslers got it all wrong.its his players now so no excuses,and the like.Get a grip and look at what is going on.Alot of players Rosler has brought in are class and doing the job theyve been put on to do,some carrying injuries.Last night was much like Clchester at home,we dominated the game from the off,playing decent football and greating no end of chances,all of which Rosler has imposed on the team,something we havnt seen for years and have moaning about just that..The only downside so far is our inability to convert some of these many chances,even just one.I had nothing against Hayes starting,he done alright in the first half,but not in place of Alagui,Hayes isnt match fit and should of come off with half hour to go if not at half time.Donaldson is becoming increasingly frustrating to me,hes had a season to settle in,hes been pance so far this season and is tame infront of goal.Yes,hes had 4 goals already but he wont score many more playing the way he is and finishing like he is.I'd start with Hayes and Alagui at Bournemouth.Whats wrong with giving German a run up front,he seems to be doing alright in the development.
Has everyone forgot that orients only attempt on target was blatantly offside.why arent people questioning/giving out about the linesman instead of getting the "Rosler out campaign" on the go again,6 games in to the season :rolleyes:
And why does Moore get so many calls to be dropped when he has easily been 1 of the most consistant players so far...Lee isnt going to score more goals than Moore ?
A mention to those who went,although it was a terrible turnout from us,it was the best vocal support for a long time
 
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