Referee at Orient

Referee at Orient

ave seen some clueless embarrassments posing as officials over the years but the officials at Orient seemed corrupt.
 

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Adam said:
"I have watched a number of Brentford's games and in the games I have watched so far, subconsciously, there is no doubt that referee's been influenced.
"They have had one defeat in twenty four games and they have got momentum with their supporters who are really behind them and I think in the games I've seen, subconsciously, that is affecting referees."

He needs to sack his scout rofl




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Is this ****** trying to p*** us off before the game even starts. Where do these prats come from ? We have Slade spouting his crap, opposing managers behaving like whiney kids in the dug out virtually every week and now this bleedin idiot! :mad1:
 

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Wee Dave said:
none of that would qualify him as the WORST REF EVER!!11! as I've seen some on here saying.
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sorry to join the party late but bemused by this remark. sometimes referees make mistakes on judgment calls - we all see it differently to how he saw it, and suffer from his mistake and moan about it afterwards.

however, in the post you're replying to, Les has cited instances where this ref was applying the rules differently for the two teams. ok, again it's "our view", but quite a lot of people agreeing with that take. and not a one-off mistake, but pretty consistent and a few examples of an offence not being seen as a foul by Orient, and then being seen as a foul by Brentford.

i'm amazed you'd interpret that as "not qualifying him" for worst ref ever??? if a ref is calling the game differently for either side, that sounds appalling to me, and shouldn't happen. worse than making a one-off (albeit significant) mistake.
 

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Sutton Bee said:
I'd definitely put D'urso in this list, simply because he cannot get it into his head that the best referee's go unseen for 90 minutes unless it necessary for him to get involved and let the players play, he has to be at the centre of it all, making up incidents, pulling the game up every 5 minutes and giving out cards like a 10 year old's birthday party, he is by far the worst referee I've seen
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D'urso ruins games and like you say seems to forget refs aren't there to be talked about.
Uriah Rennie seemed to enjoy being photographed in the papers on his motorbike and for being a larger than life black ref, shame was he a sh*t official.
 

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the "worst ref ever" would give blatant penalties where none were justified; send off players with no good reason; etc etc. This one got lots of minor things wrong (it is claimed). He had no material impact on the direction of the game. Very hard to conclude he was the worst ref anyone has ever seen.

Mr Tree said:
sorry to join the party late but bemused by this remark. sometimes referees make mistakes on judgment calls - we all see it differently to how he saw it, and suffer from his mistake and moan about it afterwards.

however, in the post you're replying to, Les has cited instances where this ref was applying the rules differently for the two teams. ok, again it's "our view", but quite a lot of people agreeing with that take. and not a one-off mistake, but pretty consistent and a few examples of an offence not being seen as a foul by Orient, and then being seen as a foul by Brentford.

i'm amazed you'd interpret that as "not qualifying him" for worst ref ever??? if a ref is calling the game differently for either side, that sounds appalling to me, and shouldn't happen. worse than making a one-off (albeit significant) mistake.
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Not a great lover of Andy D'Urso but I thought he had a very good game at Wembley in the play off final against Yeovil - even if we did lose.
 

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Wee Dave said:
the "worst ref ever" would give blatant penalties where none were justified; send off players with no good reason; etc etc. This one got lots of minor things wrong (it is claimed). He had no material impact on the direction of the game. Very hard to conclude he was the worst ref anyone has ever seen.
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The fact that he had no material impact on the game was due to 1) the determination of Brentford not to allow his blatant bias and incompetence to have that effect and 2) Good fortune.
 

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Wee Dave said:
This kind of thing makes a ref a genuinely awful ref.
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Referees are meant to be impartial and therefore not to be influenced by good or bad comments made by supporters or players. The fact that someone thinks that D'urso ruins games doesn't give him carte blanche to do that very thing.
 

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Wee Dave said:
the "worst ref ever" ....... This one got lots of minor things wrong (it is claimed). He had no material impact on the direction of the game.
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when the shirt pulling penalty appeal would have sealed the game for US ??????
 

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pensioner said:
when the shirt pulling penalty appeal would have sealed the game for US ??????
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And applying the laws of the game strictly when CD raised his hand would have seen us down to 10 much earlier than we were and assuming the game played out the same (which it clearly wouldn't have) down to nine when Tarks got booked twice
 

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There is no law about raising your hands.
 

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sonofabee said:
D'urso ruins games and like you say seems to forget refs aren't there to be talked about.
Uriah Rennie seemed to enjoy being photographed in the papers on his motorbike and for being a larger than life black ref, shame was he a sh*t official.
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He had an agent, Uriah Rennie is reason referees don't do post match interviews, he made high profile decisions to get himself to recognition
 

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Rennie was just dreadful, remember him at Crewe a few years ago shafting us. A ref i know who went on to become an assessor was telling me once about a debrief after a game with Phil Dowd and even after being shown his mistake on video he still wouldnt have it. What arrogance!!! I rate Graham Scott as one of the best i have seen at GP. He did our game against Norwich a few seasons ago and is very good.
 

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Glenisterbee said:
Rennie was just dreadful, remember him at Crewe a few years ago shafting us. A ref i know who went on to become an assessor was telling me once about a debrief after a game with Phil Dowd and even after being shown his mistake on video he still wouldnt have it. What arrogance!!! I rate Graham Scott as one of the best i have seen at GP. He did our game against Norwich a few seasons ago and is very good.
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The Ref vs Bradford was excellent
 

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Ref against swindon at home in the play offs was one of the best I have seen at home in the last year lots going on last minute goals ect had no problems handling the big occasion
 

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He was a cross between a Sargent major and biffa bacon out of viz took no sh.t
 

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He was not so impressive at Notts County this season where apart from not penalising Craig for a near foul in our area he gave us nothing
 

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Who remembers the ref who added on about 11 minutes against, was it Brum Scum or Notts County once when we realistically needed a draw to stay up. There was literally no need for that amount of extra time. It was a home game, maybe our one season in the championship?? On a separate note, I'll never forget the game against the Brum Scum when the home fans were in an uncovered Ealing Rd, we were one up and playing well and then the heavens opened and literally we were all blinded by sheeting rain and they scored during that cloud burst!
 

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Beezy said:
Who remembers the ref who added on about 11 minutes against, was it Brum Scum or Notts County once when we realistically needed a draw to stay up. There was literally no need for that amount of extra time. It was a home game, maybe our one season in the championship?? On a separate note, I'll never forget the game against the Brum Scum when the home fans were in an uncovered Ealing Rd, we were one up and playing well and then the heavens opened and literally we were all blinded by sheeting rain and they scored during that cloud burst!
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Biggar.....
Notts County....
7 minutes......
2-2......
Relegated.....
:(
 
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badgerbee said:
Biggar.....
Notts County....
7 minutes......
2-2......
Relegated.....
:(
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He supposedly said after that he added time on for each time we put it into touch in that added time
 

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badgerbee said:
Biggar.....
Notts County....
7 minutes......
2-2......
Relegated.....
:(
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It was Monday 12th April 1993, and it felt like 9 minutes of added time, with no justification, as if the ref was just keeping the game going until Notts Co. scored.
If he had blown up on time correctly with just a couple of minutes added on, then the extra 2 points for our win would have seen us survive in the Championship.
Everyone at GP that day knew that was the final straw, and it was one of those head in hands moments, of which I have had many in loving the Bees, as Biggar eventually decided he needed to go home!
 

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Oceanbee said:
It was Monday 12th April 1993, and it felt like 9 minutes of added time, with no justification, as if the ref was just keeping the game going until Notts Co. scored.
If he had blown up on time correctly with just a couple of minutes added on, then the extra 2 points for our win would have seen us survive in the Championship.
Everyone at GP that day knew that was the final straw, and it was one of those head in hands moments, of which I have had many in loving the Bees, as Biggar eventually decided he needed to go home!
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Before my time but sounds like life at Brentford.... until now!
 

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I am with Wee Dave.

If you want a sh*t referee then try Alf Grey: coming soon in a programme near you I understand.
 

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Beezy said:
Who remembers the ref who added on about 11 minutes against, was it Brum Scum or Notts County once when we realistically needed a draw to stay up. There was literally no need for that amount of extra time. It was a home game, maybe our one season in the championship?? On a separate note, I'll never forget the game against the Brum Scum when the home fans were in an uncovered Ealing Rd, we were one up and playing well and then the heavens opened and literally we were all blinded by sheeting rain and they scored during that cloud burst!
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:mad1:
 

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Oceanbee said:
It was Monday 12th April 1993, and it felt like 9 minutes of added time, with no justification, as if the ref was just keeping the game going until Notts Co. scored.
If he had blown up on time correctly with just a couple of minutes added on, then the extra 2 points for our win would have seen us survive in the Championship.
Everyone at GP that day knew that was the final straw, and it was one of those head in hands moments, of which I have had many in loving the Bees, as Biggar eventually decided he needed to go home!
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You just knew they'd equalise and it was all so wrong, I could have killed that day at final whistle.
 

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Banana said:
I am with Wee Dave.

If you want a sh*t referee then try Alf Grey: coming soon in a programme near you I understand.
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Norman Burtenshaw, Alf Grey,Ray Biggar, Les Shapter, Uriah Rennie, D'Urso, Atwell, Lynch ? the wind up at Orient and then the c*ck who tried to ruin last week
 

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sonofabee said:
Norman Burtenshaw, Alf Grey,Ray Biggar, Les Shapter, Uriah Rennie, D'Urso, Atwell, Lynch ? the wind up at Orient and then the c*ck who tried to ruin last week
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..................................you forgot to mention Darren ("Book em Darro") Deadman................................why couldn't he have lived up to his surname?..........................



.........................oh, and that grade A *****, Graham Poll.............................
 

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Ron Challis, ran up and down the park, with a cheesy grin on his mug, giving bizarre decisions , which baffled both teams and supporters.
I can't say he was biased though, just an imbecile........
 

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WisBee said:
..................................you forgot to mention Darren ("Book em Darro") Deadman................................why couldn't he have lived up to his surname?..........................



.........................oh, and that grade A *****, Graham Poll.............................
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Deadman is awful and I don't recall Poll reffing us if honest but agree he was gash and another show off.
 

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Have to say that we're all to quick to slate refs (me included) so it's only right we give credit where it's due, I thought the ref was very good yesterday, didn't know he was there, it was all about the football, well done that man.
 

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beeherenow said:
Have to say that we're all to quick to slate refs (me included) so it's only right we give credit where it's due, I thought the ref was very good yesterday, didn't know he was there, it was all about the football, well done that man.
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He was and to be fair a good few of us mentioned in match reports
 

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I liked him too, but there might not have been such generosity towards him on here if the result hadn't gone our way. Fair play to him for trying to keep his cards in his pocket, but after he had booked their No8, he penalised him for a handball and a bookable foul within the next two or three minutes. For most refs that would have been 'sorry, but you've left me with no option'.
 

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pompeybee said:
I liked him too, but there might not have been such generosity towards him on here if the result hadn't gone our way. Fair play to him for trying to keep his cards in his pocket, but after he had booked their No8, he penalised him for a handball and a bookable foul within the next two or three minutes. For most refs that would have been 'sorry, but you've left me with no option'.
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I completely disagree, that was never another booking! McCormack had made 2 or 3 similar fouls in the game. It just looked worse because the player had just lost the ball and was trying a bit to hard to get it back.
 

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Boscombe Bee said:
No. Your right. Ward really is a hopeless ref, right up there with Kettle, Deadman, Swarbrick, Robinson, Stroud, Bull, Malone & Collins. Those are the useless ones I could think of off the top of my head.
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What happened yesterday, then? ;) As others have already said, he seemed to be one of the better refs that we've seen this season - I barely noticed him until near the end - 8 or 9 out of 10 from me.

Perhaps he just wan't feeling well yesterday and normal service will be resumed shortly...
 

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pompeybee said:
I liked him too, but there might not have been such generosity towards him on here if the result hadn't gone our way. Fair play to him for trying to keep his cards in his pocket, but after he had booked their No8, he penalised him for a handball and a bookable foul within the next two or three minutes. For most refs that would have been 'sorry, but you've left me with no option'.
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I thought he got it right, Baker stretched but did go for the ball and would have been harsh.
 

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I expect Parkinson celebrated like he'd won the FA cup as well.

Slade is like a poor mans Tony Pulis.
 

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TOMOGP said:
He supposedly said after that he added time on for each time we put it into touch in that added time
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I remember Mr Biggar well. I believe this was one of his last ever games. I can even see the build up to the goal. Usually I try not to blame the referee for our misfortunes but even now still can't get to grips with his additional minutes. What made it worse was that from about the new year we had slowly slipped down the table. I had accepted we were going down. Then suddenly we stood a chance of saying up. Then suddenly it was gone. In the film Clockwise starring John Cleese at one stage he says, “It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand.' That summed it up for me. We were going down then suddenly we weren't, then we were. Just as I thought we were going to do it, escape was taken from us.
 
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