Niyx
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Saturday's crowd (split thread)
rebus is having a mare.
Not on his watch.
lol
Lets make it the 68.3 miler season ticket. Then we both qualify!
rebus is having a mare.
Not on his watch.
Anyone advocating cuts must realise this will impact on the playing budget and the club's ambition.
Myopic admission prices has the support of two on here. Hardly a mare. I would like to see the club in the Championship and the current pricing structure provides the best way forward. Anyone advocating cuts must realise this will impact on the playing budget and the club's ambition.
I don't think the 75 miler season ticket that other clubs offer is a cut. It only offers admission to 15 home games. So it appeals to those who can't make all of the games because of travelling/petrol ... and it appeals to those who wouldn't buy a full years season ticket because of cost and distance. I would have brought one at the start of the season if i was 3 miles further west! ... and would have probably gone to the game yesterday. Brentford FC would have made a fortune in Burger sales from me :yes: . Bums on seats aint a cut.
Because Fulham receive £40 million in TV money that enables them to subsidise less attractive fixtures.
when there are two matches in a week, there may be value in discounting the second game, for example.
sales promotion is a powerful tool if used creatively and sparingly.
But the club loses money as supporters get a season ticket style discount for 15 games they would paid full price for. What I trying to convey is the less money through the turnstiles, the less Charlie Macs we can afford.
Understand what you're saying
I've been to 8 home games this year (yes, i'm a lightweight!). So i've spent £180 ish. I'm probably not going again this season. And cost has stopped me from going more to be honest. A 15 game season ticket would have cost me about £260 for the Braemar stand. Brentford wouldn't have lost out if I had purchased a 75 miler.
And if we're worried about attracting and keeping young fans, a buzzing Griffin Park would help.
Don't know why i'm arguing to be honest ... as i wouldn't qualify! ... i'll shut up now!
Not really addressing my post with your reply,,, maybe I`m just being a bit thick but what I was trying to get across is that whilst we do not have the money that Fulham, Chelsea etc have; we do still need to recognise that they are our local business rivals ...of course we cannot compete at the same level as them with regards to marketing BUT if you look at some of the methods that they ( especially Fulham) use to increase ticket sales, we must try and emulate them to a certain degree.
There are many ways to increase match day profits not just by admission prices but through food + Beverage, Club shop etc`, there`s also ticket bundles , do bundles of 3 or 5 games e.g 3 decent gate games & 2 games of the Rochdale+ Hartlepool ilk, at a tempting price ( not saying we would sell thousands but if we sold just 1 to a floating /casual supporter who otherwise wouldn`t have come then surely that`s a profit? ).
Do specials for season ticket holders ( Bring 2 non season ticket holders get a free programme/onionless burger or something).
Blitz the schools with (500)comp tickets ( lots of noisy kids accompanied by enough adults!) whilst in the ground they buy refreshments, club shop merchandise before the game , do it for 10 games this next season and profits will have increased and we would also likely have trapped a few poor kiddys for life
Get Niyx's details and offer him a deal that suits him and gets him to GP a bit more often whilst also making the club some money.Agree, with such a financial disadvantage, the club needs to be inventive in the way it markets itself but the sole reason that increases attendances in a big way is a winning team and that cannot be achieved on the cheap.
So you are trying to suggest and look at ways of increasing your support, yes I think you should shut up. Nobody cares, it's a honour to follow us so just be there in future and when you can, we'll continue to be disgusted with the lack of home support and you can follow this soap opera on every fecking match thread from here to eternity.
The 'big idea' is to make the club more successful on the pitch. I cannot imagine what the attendances would be now if we were in the situation we were in two years and a bit ago.......bottom six of League Two and with Butcher and Dickens running the show. I believe we'd be at 2,000-2,500. Others may argue 'look at Luton' and that if we were top of the Conference we'd be getting 7,000. I don't think so and going down to the Conference as part of some 'Master Plan' didn't appeal to me in December 2007 and never will.
We also have to factor in the extra whammy's.......increased NI plus there is in my view a better than evens chance that whoever gets in on May 6 VAT may well increase. An increase in VAT to 20% from 17.5% would cost the club over £30k in a full year to absorb the increased costs both on season tickets, pay on the day and club shop sales.
I've always been proud to follow the bees. Have been for the last 28 years. And if I can afford it, i'll go. If my wallet was big enough, I would follow them up and down the country. And I would buy a new bees shirt too as my KLM red and white is now looking a bit ... erm ... pink following too many washes!!. But I can't. I lost my job when I lost sight in one eye ... goodbye driving licence. I've got a new job, but it doesn't pay too well. I've got a great family who support me, and drive me whenever i need it. But I still have to pay petrol! The fact that you go to more games doesn't make you any more loyal than me. I have to pay bills first and keep a roof over my head. End of. But I suspect many others who don't live within a stones throw of Griffin Park struggle with costs. And I just thought what Notts County/ Watford and Reading were offering wasn't a bad idea.
My view is this, bump up seating price by £1.00 but bring standing on Ealing Road down to £15.00 , opposite theory to bums on seats, why not feet on concrete.
Sorry to hear that. I hope lady luck comes your way and I sincerely hope you get your wish of more visits to GP.
So when VAT was 15% we made a little extra??
So for the 4400 that did turn up:
1700 ST holders.
400ish comps.
900 Town pay on day.
1400 pay on day Bees fans.
Not much spare change there. This club will continue to loss significant amounts of money per week if this continues next season.
The 'big idea' is to make the club more successful on the pitch. I cannot imagine what the attendances would be now if we were in the situation we were in two years and a bit ago.......bottom six of League Two and with Butcher and Dickens running the show. I believe we'd be at 2,000-2,500. Others may argue 'look at Luton' and that if we were top of the Conference we'd be getting 7,000. I don't think so and going down to the Conference as part of some 'Master Plan' didn't appeal to me in December 2007 and never will.
That tells me that a big name is one thing that helps bump up the attendance, but good league position is stronger.
Can't agree on this one. Would you prefer to be in the top six of the Conference or midtable in League One? There isn't a single Luton fan that wouldn't swop places with us.
It's not just the attendances, it's the FL money that rockets depending on what League you are in. Not much TV money for the Conference this season after Setanta went bust.
A question:
If Matthew Benham had said I will put 1 million a season into the club provided Brentford fans show there support and over 10k paying customers (Away fans not included in this 10k) turn up for three Saturday home games in a row. Do you think supporters would have answered Brentford's/Benham's call and turned up in numbers no matter who or indeed how we were playing?
Personnally I don't think that this would have been achieved as we simply don't have the hard core support or number of floating supporters to make up 10k for three games in a row.
P.s Paying customers means paying the normal prices no reductions.
Of course they wouldn't and MB is not daft enough to even suggest such a thing and neither would Bees United have supported such a statement. Wasn't this one of Noades ploys......'I have put/invested loads of (your....he missed this word out of course) money into the Club and the supporters haven't kept their side of the bargain. We should have gates of 8k by now blah, blah'. That was the first sign that he wanted 'out'......he of course never ever made a mistake so let's blame it onto the supporters who were suddenly being berated for not sticking to an 'agreement' that most of us didn't know existed anyway..........even if only in Noades head. I remember analysing some numbers at the time and posting on here that if Noades/Hargraves actually had a business plan it was based upon an average gate at GP of over 14k which was quite an achievement as we would have done well then to shoehorn 11k in and for anyone to believe that we should be getting over 8k in League One showed how little Noades and his board understood Brentford Football Club and its supporters both current and lapsed.
Matthew Benham is injecting capital into the Club on an annual basis and the board manages the club on a 'cash neutral' basis.....that is the debt does not increase although the only way that could happen with the present structure is racking the bank overdraft to its limit.
Every penny of additional unforecast cash goes to the playing budget or improvements to the structure. Supporters are not paying for fancy salaries (Noades £167k as Team Manager) and nor are their monies diappearing into a 'black hole'.
abee or rebus so you seem to know most answers do you know what the average attendence was forcasted this year and what is roughly going to be forecasted next year?
Can't the club simply report the attendance as the attendance rather than the number of tickets that were issued for match? Then at least we wouldn't get the 'I've been coming to GP for years and there looked more than 6k in there to me'. posts![]()
Agree, with such a financial disadvantage, the club needs to be inventive in the way it markets itself. Many of the promotions you describe are financed by the SKY TV cheque - who makes up our shortfall? The sole reason that increases attendances in a big way is a winning team and that cannot be achieved on the cheap.
I've always liked the idea of the 75 miler season ticket. I know the idea will get some peoples backs up tho!. But a very good idea imho. Gets you into 15 home games. Petrol prices are killing me also
Notts County have them. Watford and Reading have them too.
http://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/
Can't the club simply report the attendance as the attendance rather than the number of tickets that were issued for match? Then at least we wouldn't get the 'I've been coming to GP for years and there looked more than 6k in there to me'. posts![]()
imo we should be giving out at least 5000 comps to schools or locals or whoever for each of our three remaining home games.

imo we should be giving out at least 5000 comps to schools or locals or whoever for each of our three remaining home games.
Agree, with such a financial disadvantage, the club needs to be inventive in the way it markets itself. Many of the promotions you describe are financed by the SKY TV cheque - who makes up our shortfall? The sole reason that increases attendances in a big way is a winning team and that cannot be achieved on the cheap.
This is how i got in to supporting the club back in 1988 and i have posted on here numerous times before it is the way to go.
Tranmere a week Tuesday should be
* kid a quid or all under 16's are free or
* Season ticket holders bring a mate for free
This will bring much needed revenue with programmes,catering and club shop merchandise for a start.
People with families that follow top flight football simply cannot afford to go any more.Only last week i bumped in to an old school mate who was Tottenham mad.He is now bringing his son to Griffin Parkand loves it.
I understand as a club our resources may be a little stretched with reaching all schools/youth clubs etc but even if we shift 1500 comps to children and parents and we get 1000 come then it will hopefully introduce new fans.


OK hornets nest, whilst its ok to up admission prices and charge youngsters in the paddock more dough whilst other seats are cheaper else where in the ground. So a seat in the paddock for a non s/t is 22 quid why do you discount season tickets for approx 17 quid a match????? yes i know the old spill about paying there money up front is helping the club, but surely with a recession still biting surely this practise should bee stopped and everybody pays 22 quid a seat hard helmet being worn ready for flack![]()

imo we should be giving out at least 5000 comps to schools or locals or whoever for each of our three remaining home games.
even though he's taking the piss. I'm sure I'm missing something but I just cant see the downside in this as long as we are only giving out under 16 comps. It would be great to see the ground full of noisy kids and some of their paying parents. How much do we make from kids walk up tickets abee? Would it be too much of a sacrifice?even though he's taking the piss. I'm sure I'm missing something but I just cant see the downside in this as long as we are only giving out under 16 comps. It would be great to see the ground full of noisy kids and some of their paying parents. How much do we make from kids walk up tickets abee? Would it be too much of a sacrifice?
Can I make a suggestion? I am in the age bracket of 60 - 65 year olds. Most of my age are probably still working, so why not cut the concession for my age group and only have that concession from age 65. Thus the 16 - 18 year olds who have left school, but possibly on low pay, could perhaps have some sort of concession instead? I know I may have riled a few ofmy own age here, but wouldn't it be beneficial to give the younger ones an opportunity to continue to support Brentford whilst they find their feet at work? Surely this is not an unreasonable request,is it?