Stephen Wright on trial

Stephen Wright on trial

Les Beeavinu said:
I haven't checked all teams - I'm busy! Two I can think of.
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I would suggest that most of the lower league teams that do have youngsters on their bench do so as their squad is not big enough.

The fact that some people find possible additions to the squad that have Champions League experience worrying is a little baffling to me but there you go. A vast majority of the exceptional young talent is snapped up by Premiership clubs and it's time some accepted that.
 

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blunstone said:
i would rather we kept to our policy of finding young stars of the future from non-league or wherever.
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Les Beeavinu said:
Agree with these. It would be nice if our reserves were hungry youngsters rather than 30+ experienced pros.
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Surely it's all about having a balance in the squad. AS has either signed (in one form or another) or given contract extensions to the following, who I'd all class as 'young':

Ben Hamer
Simon Moore
Michael Spillane
Karleigh Osborne
Sam Wood
Ryan Blake
Myles Weston
Nicky Adams
Toumani Diagouraga
Lewis Grabban
Kirk Hudson.

Apart from Adams (and maybe Grabban) all are either integral to the current first team squad or are long term prospects.

He's also had a good long look at Chennells which suggests he'll add youngsters when they are up to the required standard.

:shrug:
 

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rebus said:
The fact that some people find possible additions to the squad that have Champions League experience worrying is a little baffling to me but there you go. A vast majority of the exceptional young talent is snapped up by Premiership clubs and it's time some accepted that.
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Although players like Sam Wood and Ryan Dickson (for example), are still out there
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
Although players like Sam Wood and Ryan Dickson (for example), are still out there
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I suppose it's where you define young. Sam signed at 22 and I don't call that young for a footballer - Karleigh's played around 100 games for us at the same age. :shrug:

Only time will tell how high Sam and Ryan make it up the League to call them exceptional.
 

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rebus said:
I suppose it's where you define young. Sam signed at 22 and I don't call that young for a footballer. :shrug:
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I think "young" in terms of experience as Dickson wasn't that young either. In my ideal world, you'd have a group of younger players pushing the more experienced first teamers and if you look at our forward line in particular, that's not the case with our current squad.

However, I accept that even good young non-league players are now costing a lot of money so if Wright (who I have no doubt has good pedigree) is a cheap and steady option, then it's not the worst piece of business ever giving him a go. When you look at the list of players who haven't got jobs, it's incredible the amount of quality around and they'll be more and more desperate for a wage as the season goes on.
 

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rebus said:
I would suggest that most of the lower league teams that do have youngsters on their bench do so as their squad is not big enough.

The fact that some people find possible additions to the squad that have Champions League experience worrying is a little baffling to me but there you go. A vast majority of the exceptional young talent is snapped up by Premiership clubs and it's time some accepted that.
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sounds like your Mr Wright. :yuck:

welcome to the club Stephen :rolleyes:
 

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rwBee said:
I've seen him play for Coventry on quite a few occasions, as follow Sky Blues with some Cov mates a few games a season.

I really don't rate him. He'd be an improvement on Spillane at right back, but for the money we'd pay him he's not worth it. He was rubbish at Coventry and had an awful disciplinary record.
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That's contradictory surely, he'd be better than Spillane but he's rubbish with a poor disciplinary record?
 

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I have never seen this guy play will he improve our team or is it a waste and is he better than Spillane?
 

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rebus said:
I saw Stephen play last week. Looks physically fit but needs match and training ground practise I suspect, which you only get with a club enviroment. This guy is no Neil Shipperley, believe me. If Spilliane is out of form or injured, we don't want to bring KOC or Karliegh to fill in as that will disrupt the team. If Stephen does sign we then have some competition at right-back.

Having youngsters in the squad is all well and good but it's no match for seasoned experience.
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I agree with this but it also depends if they are good pro's who will help the team spirit and be leaders, and not too expensive in salary particularly if thy don't play much.
 

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blunstone said:
but, nlb, you more than anyone knows that old players cannot be sold. young ones who come through can!
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Ye I agree with you but it's all about having a blend of younger and more experienced players.

WE do have a few assets who will appreciate and have a decent sell-on value in Moore, Bush, Blake, Osborne, Spillane, Legge and Weston but maybe the time will come when they feel that they would be better off in career development terms by staying with us!
 

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rebus said:
Having youngsters in the squad is all well and good but it's no match for seasoned experience.
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.........wasn't that (essentially) what Alan Hansen rather famously said a few years back?:rolleyes:...........

IIRC the actual quote was something like 'you don't win anything with kids' the year ManUre did rather well
 
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Will reserve judgement on this, not convinced by Spillanes defensive capabilities yet, maybe can be pushed up to right mid to compete with Wood, Simpson.Wright must have had something about him to have played at a high level but what went wrong?

Who was the last scouser to play for us?
 

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rebus said:
I would suggest that most of the lower league teams that do have youngsters on their bench do so as their squad is not big enough.

The fact that some people find possible additions to the squad that have Champions League experience worrying is a little baffling to me but there you go. A vast majority of the exceptional young talent is snapped up by Premiership clubs and it's time some accepted that.
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I agree, and it basically means that the one occasional revenue perk that our clubs at this level got is fizzling out.

Which is great news for clubs who have got the revenue streams associated with new stadiums and can absorb the blow. Bad news for clubs like ours.
 

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WisBee said:
.........wasn't that (essentially) what Alan Hansen rather famously said a few years back?:rolleyes:...........

IIRC the actual quote was something like 'you don't win anything with kids' the year ManUre did rather well
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Correct, it was the year United won the double in 1996. But Hansen's statement essentially holds true. That group of players were exceptional but as Arsenal have proved, having talented youngsters still doesn't mean you can win things. United had Schmeichel, Pallister, Cantona and Irwin as the spine of the team and none of them were the right side of 30.
 

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signed till the end of the season. In the squad for tomorrow :wave:
 

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cant believe some people.

We need cover at right back, so we dont take out our best player this season from centre back to right back and so we dont chuck Kevin there....
Makes sense.
 

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Young defenders Chris Bush (loaned to Wombles) & Ryan Blake (loaned to lowly Woking) seem to have swapped their early season ratings, Bush, the younger of the two, is cup-tied to the Bees while Blake is not. Wasn't Blake the talk of the future and tipped for stardom and good cover for LB (the new Dickson) but the Wombles seem to rate Bush a star in their top of the table (Conference premier) team and no doubt excellent cover for our propensity of center backs.
 

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rebus said:
The fact that some people find possible additions to the squad that have Champions League experience worrying is a little baffling to me
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oh great so he is cup-tied for the JPT then!!!?! :rolleyes:
 

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WisBee said:
.........wasn't that (essentially) what Alan Hansen rather famously said a few years back?:rolleyes:...........

IIRC the actual quote was something like 'you don't win anything with kids' the year ManUre did rather well
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To be fair to Hansen, he would probably have been right in saying this on most occasions, but he said it about a United side that had quite exceptional youngsters coming through. They haven't been able to produce such a crop since then.
 

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Whitton Borders Bee said:
Looked solid and intelligent today, when he came on for the last half hour. If Spillane is fit Tuesday, yet another selection headache I'd struggle with!
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Whitton Borders Bee said:
Looked solid and intelligent today, when he came on for the last half hour. If Spillane is fit Tuesday, yet another selection headache I'd struggle with!
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He must have been good for you to post it twice. :eek: :sorted:
 

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Get him in, he should be OK at this level. Spillane IMO looks better going forward so I'd play him right midfield and Wright at right back, Spillane sometimes feels like a bit of a liability at the back
 

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Spillane may be out for tomorrow, but he's done his job well IMO, Wright is good cover and adds some experience, we'll find out tomorrow night i suppose.
 

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Lucky we got him in then... could have been Kev or Karleigh instead...
 

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grepo said:
Is he fit to play 90 minutes?
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I reckon so, been training 2 weeks and played reserve game plus sat. Can always take him off and stick Kev there when we are 3-0 up. ;)
 

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The way things have been over the last 6 games or so the last thing we want is to move KO from centre defence or KOC from centre midfield - so good to have alternative cover for right back. 4 wins out of 5 in the league and holding Brum to a draw in normal & extra time shows the team is working. The fewer changes the better. Oh and BTW I'd still have KOC take the pens. He's scored more than most.
 

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scruff puppy pup said:
To be fair to Hansen, he would probably have been right in saying this on most occasions, but he said it about a United side that had quite exceptional youngsters coming through. They haven't been able to produce such a crop since then.
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............................I hope you're not argueing(sp?) with me.......................:fishing:lol
 
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ruislip bee said:
The way things have been over the last 6 games or so the last thing we want is to move KO from centre defence or KOC from centre midfield - so good to have alternative cover for right back. 4 wins out of 5 in the league and holding Brum to a draw in normal & extra time shows the team is working. The fewer changes the better. Oh and BTW I'd still have KOC take the pens. He's scored more than most.
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:rolleyes:........................is that because he takes more than most?.........................
 

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ruislip bee said:
The way things have been over the last 6 games or so the last thing we want is to move KO from centre defence or KOC from centre midfield - so good to have alternative cover for right back. 4 wins out of 5 in the league and holding Brum to a draw in normal & extra time shows the team is working. The fewer changes the better. Oh and BTW I'd still have KOC take the pens. He's scored more than most.
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Anyone know how many he's actually taken in leqgue and cup - how many scored and missed?
 
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