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jlove
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The central midfield challenge is that someone has to be the playmaker out of the three. McEachran is head-and-shoulders our best at opening up a defence (the high packing rate lol) and plays deep, so his tackling is useful, too; that allows a box-to-box, or high-presser, in front of him, plus the defensive holding player alongside.
Sawyers is also very capable with those passes, too, but plays further forward and is not in the same league in either the tackling or pressing stakes, so requires two more-defensive players behind. So, my guess is that we won't see too much of both at the same time and the other two midfield positions will depend on which is playing.
Sawyers is also very capable with those passes, too, but plays further forward and is not in the same league in either the tackling or pressing stakes, so requires two more-defensive players behind. So, my guess is that we won't see too much of both at the same time and the other two midfield positions will depend on which is playing.
sonofabee
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I saw him shaking his head and looking very sorry for himself as he limped off. I doubt he'll be in contention for Saturday but hope I'm wrong as he looks much stronger physically this pre season.
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What I think the team will be
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Bjelland (Barbet) Henry
Mokotjo McEachran
Jota Sawyers Canos
Vibe
Daniels
Barbet - I think possible should start in place of Bjelland.
Woods
Maupay
Watkins
Josefzoon - Another who should arguably start.
Clarke
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Bjelland (Barbet) Henry
Mokotjo McEachran
Jota Sawyers Canos
Vibe
Daniels
Barbet - I think possible should start in place of Bjelland.
Woods
Maupay
Watkins
Josefzoon - Another who should arguably start.
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Bentley
Dalsgaard, Egan, Bjelland, Henry
Woods, Makotjo
Jota, Watkins, Canos
Vibe
Dalsgaard, Egan, Bjelland, Henry
Woods, Makotjo
Jota, Watkins, Canos
Vibe
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This would be my starting 11 too as I think Canos will not have recovered in time unfortunately.
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OK, had to change it.
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Bjelland Henry
Mokojto McEachren
Jota Sawyers Canos
Vibe
Subs
Daniels
Barbet
Jozefzoon
Woods
Yennaris
Maupay
Clarke
I think Yennaris has a shout over Sawyers due to him being more combative and box to box, but game time and Sawyers creativity would shade it.
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Bjelland Henry
Mokojto McEachren
Jota Sawyers Canos
Vibe
Subs
Daniels
Barbet
Jozefzoon
Woods
Yennaris
Maupay
Clarke
I think Yennaris has a shout over Sawyers due to him being more combative and box to box, but game time and Sawyers creativity would shade it.
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This is what I want. But I think Josh and Romaine will start ahead of Flo and Woods
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Completely agree, if the squad stays anything like it currently is, we have what we missed the last couple of seasons, which is the diversity on how we want to set up dependant on what we think the oppo will want to play, or not to play against us.
We bang on about all the bullying and the bullies will succeed until some one stands up against them, we just did not have the right people to do that when needed, I believe we have now.
Could not make yesterday but was at the ground when we played Southampton and josh to me was the standout but still seems not to be capable of 90 at full pace. If we can keep most of them happy and we hit the ground running like Huddersfield did last season, I believe that there is a real chance. 3 points at Sheffield is a real chance and I think we will play and play to win.
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Agree with starting 11, but Ollie in for Clarke as sub, Colin won't be match ready with new parenthood and hopefully Canos fit to play, otherwise Flojo and Carke back in the subs. When Colin and Dean available will be even more complex/interesting. Substitutions and timing thereof could prove vital this season.
AB
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The set up we've got is one requiring a very high intensity of work by the players who need to be sharp and mobile. McEachran does seem to burn out by about 60 minutes but that may be down to the intensity of what he's asked to do as well as any personal fitness issues. Ankersen (I think) said in a recent interview that the club had been looking at making much earlier substitutions than the norm so it might be that as we have such a strong squad the aim will be to use this as a positive rather than to bemoan the inability of some players to last 90 minutes at full focus (Canos also has this). Getting an hour of McEachran pulling the strings to run the opposition ragged only to be replaced by Woods (or vice versa depending on conditions) will probably give many opponents nightmares, just as demoralising a Right Back by having Canos take the mickey for an hour then getting Josefzoon charging at them when they're tired will, or replacing Vibe with Maupay who looks like a real handful, or Sawyers with Watkins or Yennaris who'd both pose a very different and more direct threat (NB first game last season when Yennaris came on and did just that v Huddersfield - this is not new, but having all the options off the bench is).
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I think all of this is good but with the caveat that I think it'll take a lot longer for all of those players to get used to building up the second nature understanding which is, imo, a factor often underestimated in the modern age of regular subs, especially at higher levels, and enables teams that manage to not rotate as much to outperform despite injuries/tiredness/etc.
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For me
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Barbett Henry
Woods Mokojto McEachren
Jota Vibe Canor(if Injury Jozefzoon)
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Barbett Henry
Woods Mokojto McEachren
Jota Vibe Canor(if Injury Jozefzoon)
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I think the no-brainer selections are (assuming Colin's off/not ready/etc, knowing Harlee is unavailable, and assuming Jota is staying/no bids):
Bentley,
Dalsgaard,
Henry,
Kamo,
Jota,
Vibe
That leaves the centre backs to pick so I'd go for Bjelland + one (as he was OK and the others haven't impressed me at all in the friendlies). I'd choose Barbet at the moment as Egan's not looked a bit lumbering and clumsy to me in the friendlies (not sure why).
For the central midfield, it's very tough after McE's first half performance, and it's a coin flip between him and Woods imo (who was excellent in the previous match).
For attacking midfield, it's also tough, Watkins has been OK in the friendlies, got a goal, brings more workrate and physical presence around the park, but has been lacking a bit in end product/attacking threat imo and Sawyers has the edge in that regard due to his passing. I thought I'd be choosing Watkins by now but this one is also a coin flip for me. I'd be tempted to give Watkins a couple more games and see how he does. I reckon he just needs to settle down and play with more confidence and we'll see more from him.
Happy with either Canos or Zoom on the other wing. If Canos isn't 100% due to the knock at the weekend then Zoom it is. If he is 100% I'd probably play him (just).
Bentley,
Dalsgaard,
Henry,
Kamo,
Jota,
Vibe
That leaves the centre backs to pick so I'd go for Bjelland + one (as he was OK and the others haven't impressed me at all in the friendlies). I'd choose Barbet at the moment as Egan's not looked a bit lumbering and clumsy to me in the friendlies (not sure why).
For the central midfield, it's very tough after McE's first half performance, and it's a coin flip between him and Woods imo (who was excellent in the previous match).
For attacking midfield, it's also tough, Watkins has been OK in the friendlies, got a goal, brings more workrate and physical presence around the park, but has been lacking a bit in end product/attacking threat imo and Sawyers has the edge in that regard due to his passing. I thought I'd be choosing Watkins by now but this one is also a coin flip for me. I'd be tempted to give Watkins a couple more games and see how he does. I reckon he just needs to settle down and play with more confidence and we'll see more from him.
Happy with either Canos or Zoom on the other wing. If Canos isn't 100% due to the knock at the weekend then Zoom it is. If he is 100% I'd probably play him (just).
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I reckon
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Bjellend Henry
Mokojto Josh
Jota Yennaris Canos
Vibe
I don't think you can have Mokojto, Woods and Josh in the same team as not enough forward energy. I don't think Colin has had enough minutes to start (although I am contradicting that by putting in Yennaris). I think Bjellend slightly edged Barbet in the last friendly but Egan and Bjellend aren't the best distributors from the back. I think Maupay and Watkins will come more into contension in coming weeks (or maybe in the cup team)
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Bjellend Henry
Mokojto Josh
Jota Yennaris Canos
Vibe
I don't think you can have Mokojto, Woods and Josh in the same team as not enough forward energy. I don't think Colin has had enough minutes to start (although I am contradicting that by putting in Yennaris). I think Bjellend slightly edged Barbet in the last friendly but Egan and Bjellend aren't the best distributors from the back. I think Maupay and Watkins will come more into contension in coming weeks (or maybe in the cup team)
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Would have either Watkins or Sawyers/Woods in before Yennais. Agree with Maupay and Watkins coming into contention to replace Vibe over the next few weeks. Will love the room created by Canos/Jota/Josh M, and will be stronger away from home.
jlove
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As Leonardo wrote, there needs to be a mobile, pressing midfielder to give the forward motion (and maybe pop up with a goal). Yennaris was involved in every game last season, in that very role, although Watkins deputised against Celta Vigo.
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I agree it takes time but I think it has been something the "receiving" players have been working on for a long time. The new players will have been getting that from day one. I'm hopeful it'll be like Huddersfield found- Wagner in his first season laid the foundations for how they played last season even though they looked unimpressive for much of that first season. We've already seen the bees have the second half of last season develop that mutual understanding and be able to carry it out even after McEachran got injured and after substitutions. Maybe it won't work out but one of the things I was impressed by last season was how substitutes who'd not played much slotted straight into the way the team played.
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Cannot understand why the guy after a full pre-season looks done for after 60 mins.
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Because he was told he would be getting 60 mins and gave everything ?
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Yes, but lets face it his game is not box to box and he should be able to give everything for 90 mins, Woods, Harley and many others seem to, to me
he seems to have stamina issues.
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Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Barbet Henry
Mokojto McEachren
Jota Watkins Canos (if fit, Jozefzoon with Clarke on bench if not fit)
Vibe
Subs
Daniels
Nico
Bjelland
Jozefzoon
Woods
Maupay
Sawyers
Woods and Nico can both cover right back if need be. Colin to miss out this weekend due to fitness/new baby IMO.
Dalsgaard Egan Barbet Henry
Mokojto McEachren
Jota Watkins Canos (if fit, Jozefzoon with Clarke on bench if not fit)
Vibe
Subs
Daniels
Nico
Bjelland
Jozefzoon
Woods
Maupay
Sawyers
Woods and Nico can both cover right back if need be. Colin to miss out this weekend due to fitness/new baby IMO.
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I think that's a good point, but I'm not totally convinced that Josh is yet a 90 minutes player. Not that it matters as Romaine is a more than able deputy in terms of creativity.
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I would go with that, but I expect Sawyers for Josh, and Josh for Woodsy.
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& I think Bjelland for Barbet, harsh on Barbet but about the best pairing rather than the individuals and think Egan needs an experienced head next to him at moment.
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I don't think DS will throw Mokotjo in at the deep end especially with McEachran not 90 mins fit yet. So:
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Bjelland Henry
McEachran Woods
Jota Sawyers FloJo
Vibe
Subs: Daniels, Barbet, Mokotjo, Maupay, Watkins, Yennaris
Bentley
Dalsgaard Egan Bjelland Henry
McEachran Woods
Jota Sawyers FloJo
Vibe
Subs: Daniels, Barbet, Mokotjo, Maupay, Watkins, Yennaris
jlove
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From what I've seen, Mokotjo is definitely ready for this game and 100% should play.
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He's started practically every game. DS will start with Kamo, I have no doubt about that.
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Lee
Logan Legge Osborne Woodman
McGinn Reeves Douglas Weston
Donaldson Alexander
Subs: Moore, Eger, KOC, Saunders, MacDonald
That's my choice for first game of the season teams at Bramall Lane.
Logan Legge Osborne Woodman
McGinn Reeves Douglas Weston
Donaldson Alexander
Subs: Moore, Eger, KOC, Saunders, MacDonald
That's my choice for first game of the season teams at Bramall Lane.
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Jeez, that really highlights just how far we've come in such a short time
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Blimey. Never realised Clayton and Alexander played together. Did it win?
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Nope, it was a 2-0 surrender in the sun and showed that we were miles behind them.
