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Stop paying them if their 'heads ain't right '
I somehow doubt this is the case . In fact I'd go further, it's codswallop. Judge was MOM in 45 mins v Walsall, why would his head not be right?
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Stop paying them if their 'heads ain't right '
I somehow doubt this is the case . In fact I'd go further, it's codswallop. Judge was MOM in 45 mins v Walsall, why would his head not be right?
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If marco is fit its go to be him surely , Hof will battle but what iv,e seen so far this season he won,t score many im afraid amd marco will.
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Obviously wont happen for lots of reasons, but
a) think we could keep it tight with a 4 4 2
b) have been i pressed with strength of Yannaris and his crossing
c) think both forwards would benefit from someone to play off
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Obviously wont happen for lots of reasons, but
a) think we could keep it tight with a 4 4 2
b) have been i pressed with strength of Yannaris and his crossing
c) think both forwards would benefit from someone to play off
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Can you recall the last time we started 4-4-2? I doubt the players have trained with that formation for many years; it would be a recipe for chaos and would concede the midfield to what is probably the strongest midfield in our division.
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Indeed. If we were to play two up front, I suspect 3-5-2 would be more likely. I also strongly suspect that neither will happen as a result of one scrappy defeat.
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That's generally our "chase the game" formation with Harlee going up front.
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No I cant. Probably at least three managers ago. But it seems generally agreed that we have a group of forwards who are not effective as lone strikers. I also do not think we would concede the midfield with this line-up, but I worry greatly about a midfield with Canos and Swift lining up sgainst the 'strongest midfield in our division'. I also think professional footballers would not be reduced to chaos playing probably the most popular formstion of the last 30 years. They would have all grown up playing it and many of them are clearly more suited to it.
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4-4-2 fell out of general use some years ago and I doubt many of our younger academy players would have grown up playing it. The fact is that many fans still think in 4-4-2, even when their team doesn't play it.
Anyway, we're joint top scorers and MB has said it's not how many goals your striker scores but how many the team scores with the striker on the pitch.
The focus has to be on plugging the soft centre through our middle and we can't afford to lose a body from midfield.
Anyway, we're joint top scorers and MB has said it's not how many goals your striker scores but how many the team scores with the striker on the pitch.
The focus has to be on plugging the soft centre through our middle and we can't afford to lose a body from midfield.
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We played 4-4-2 for the Brum home game. Didn't work out well but we have tried it this season.
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How many younger academy players do you think will be starting on Tuesday? I don't think this is a realistic argument against a change in formation.
A solid four accross the middle may stop boro pouring through and provide a shield to the back four. Moving an attacking midfielder forward and tightening up with less 'creative' midfielders seems quite a reasonable approach against these opponents. Playing five accross the middle with one forward seems to give us the worst of both worlds when playing against the strongest teams.
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Just go through our regular team sheet and see how many players have come through an academy, either here or in another European country.
I think you need to let it go... 4-4-2, that is.
I think you need to let it go... 4-4-2, that is.
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From the BBC Sport website (sorry I dont know how to link this).....
The most common formation you will likely see in British football is the 4-4-2.
It's made up of four defenders, four midfielders and two strikers.
It is an adaptable system where you have strength in midfield and plenty of width.
Having two strikers means that the front line has extra support rather than having to wait for the midfield to reach them.
This formation, like others, tends to free up the full-backs, who will have more time on the ball than midfielders, particularly if the opposition is playing 4-4-2 as well.
Maybe you need to more be more flexible??
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The last time we played a proper 4-4-2 was when Will Grigg started games towards then end of the season. It didn't work.
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He'll be playing the holding-his-phone-waiting-for-a-call-from-his-agent role.
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Don't go for this resting players thing....they are supposed to bee athletes..fit...strong...they have the best job in the world...and should bee knocking at the managers door...saying they want to play..how did we ever get on before subs were introduced....seems like more of a nanny state to me....:sad:...You Reds...
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Well seeing as 43 of the 44 teams from the top 2 divisions did it , maybe just maybe theres something in it
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Football has changed a lot since the 1950's to 1990's. It's a lot more demanding. They're a lot quicker and fitter, with games being a lot faster, even since I started going in the early 1970's. I understand the changes.
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Good old Auntie Beeb!
From the Top 30 teams in the English pyramid, please list those that play 4-4-2...
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Colin tarky Dean bidwell
canos woods toumani judge swift
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if tarky and toums have gone then replace them with O'Connell and Alan mac
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if tarky and toums have gone then replace them with O'Connell and Alan mac
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I think it because it's true. We played a 4-4-2 diamond with Vibe and Djuricin up front.
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How did the Bees get on.....you will bee sick as parrot if Walsall draw Manure at home.....
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No i wont because what are the odds on us getting the same number in draw they were given *
* unless the number would have been same whoever won in which case no i would still not be gutted **
** if it was away maybe
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Another weak ref, in a game where we need someone strong. Gavin Ward, absolute tool.
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You do realise that midfield 3 got destroyed by Walsall on Saturday?
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Yep. Didn't win a tackle. Didn't know when to press. Unable to cope with the oppo. Didn't protect and didn't create.
Alan Macs words not mine.
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Didn't Gray manage to score twice for us while in the midst of his transfer talks?
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Yet created next to nothing. Too many of the same player - non creative midfielders. KK, Woods, Mac, Toums. And who knows about Josh. Looked well off the pace. They won't score more than 5 goals between them in a season and won't create many more. You could argue they are defensive minded, but our defensive record wouldn't support that.
I'm not saying there are alternatives, because I'm not sure there is in the current squad. But that's a failing of our recruitment and not the problem of DS who has inherited and unbalanced squad. I expect us to get totally over run in midfield tomorrow especially with a ref that will spend most of the game in Leadbitters pocket.
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Really , i don't know what to expect in the Championship and i love that. I can't wait , it should be a great game under the lights
I suspect that if we make it a ra ras atmosphere rather than a Walsall one , that will help a lot.
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It's a really tricky one. Obviously if assumed fit then it's a no-brainer that we'd want Judge, Tarks, Toums (and probably Jota) back in the starting line-up, but only Dean Smith will know what frame of mind they're all in.
One of the rare occasions where I haven't a clue what team I'd want to start. Bear in mind that McCormack went off injured and McEachran looked like he could be injured or unfit - who does that leave us with as a defensive midfielder?
One of the rare occasions where I haven't a clue what team I'd want to start. Bear in mind that McCormack went off injured and McEachran looked like he could be injured or unfit - who does that leave us with as a defensive midfielder?
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Can't see us getting anything out of this week.
Putting in a lot of effort to get to these two too having to change work shifts and rushing there all over the place so I really hope I'm wrong and we pull out a performance from somewhere!
Putting in a lot of effort to get to these two too having to change work shifts and rushing there all over the place so I really hope I'm wrong and we pull out a performance from somewhere!
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