Team vs Hull

[alikat]

I wonder if, even if HD is fit to play, TF may be thinking about reverting to a 433 formation, just for this game, as otherwise it will be a case of fitting square pegs in round holes somewhere across the back. One of the drawbacks, though, would be playing one of McEachran or Dasilva in midfield, which might put him off the idea....

 

[alikat]

We may of course revert to 4 at back?

Great minds think alike!!

 

[TheHairdresser]

I wonder if, even if HD is fit to play, TF may be thinking about reverting to a 433 formation, just for this game, as otherwise it will be a case of fitting square pegs in round holes somewhere across the back. One of the drawbacks, though, would be playing one of McEachran or Dasilva in midfield, which might put him off the idea....

Hull aren't a possession based outfit, maybe a 4-3-3 will work. I'd be careful about that though given Bowen and Grosicki light to drift in from opposing wings. Would u trust JM to track his man over 70mins when needed, can't switch off with this lot.

 

[TheHairdresser]

If Henry and HD are fit im going for.
Bentley
HD, JJ, Barbet
Moses Moko Sawyers Henry
Said, Maupay Watkins

Bit of a gamble.

I think this will be closer to the XI and formation, only doubt is RH(who I think we'll need to counter the runs of Bowen).

 

[nick logan]

Bentley
Dalsgaard Jeanvier Barbet Odubajo
Mojoto Sawyers Dasilva/mcCeachran
Watkins Maupay Benrahma

No Canos ? , been excellent recenty

 

[TW3Bee]

Do we know the timescale for Rico's return?

 

[Mr Cynical]

Frank says we won't go back to 4 at the back for this match so either Dalsgaard or Sorenson will play.. or is he bluffing????

 

[beebopalula]

Frank says we won't go back to 4 at the back for this match so either Dalsgaard or Sorenson will play.. or is he bluffing????

No. Why would we revert to 4-3-3 ? It doesn't work for us.Dalsgaard is the likely replacement for Konsa. Otherwise unchanged except Bentley in.

 

[Mr Cynical]

No. Why would we revert to 4-3-3 ? It doesn't work for us.Dalsgaard is the likely replacement for Konsa. Otherwise unchanged except Bentley in.

It worked for us before for quite some time.. Frank has said a few times that it might come back at some point. :shrug:

 

[jlove]

No. Why would we revert to 4-3-3 ? It doesn't work for us.Dalsgaard is the likely replacement for Konsa. Otherwise unchanged except Bentley in.

I'd imagine the longer term plan is to get back to 4-3-3 and our recruitment will be geared to that. If we can get the defence sorted and stable, with at least one first-choice left-sided centre back, plus find that elusive DHM, or drop Mokotjo in there as the first choice, then it will give us a greater attacking potential.

 

[Mr Cynical]

I'd imagine the longer term plan is to get back to 4-3-3 and our recruitment will be geared to that. If we can get the defence sorted and stable, with at least one first-choice left-sided centre back, plus find that elusive DHM, or drop Mokotjo in there as the first choice, then it will give us a greater attacking potential.

B team are still playing with 4 at the back (though that may be more down to not having any fit CBs!)

 

[North London Bee]

Why revert to 433 when we generally look stronger at the back (barring the customary Brentford brain fades!!), we have 2 attacking full backs who augment the attack and we are creating as many chances as before with Benrahma/Canos and Watkins looking far more dangerous and goal hungry than in a 433?

I think that 343 is here to stay for the long term as it suits the players we have. The only way I see things changing is if we bring in different types of players in the close season.

 

[WisBee]

I can't see that Ollie deserves his place ahead of Sergi in all honesty - he's not really done anything these past few games - OK, a goal here, a goal there but then it appears that he seems to think his job is done - contributing 1 or 2 minutes a game and switching off (or watching the game pass him by) for the remaining 90 minutes is not enough IMHO

........someone had to say it - tin hat on...........



I assume that Moses will be involved, he probably knows more than anyone else within our club about Hull, so I'd go for
Bentley
Dalsgaard Jeanvier Barbet
Odubajo Mokotjo Sawyers Henry/Field
Canos Maupay Benrahma

Subs: a GK(?), Field/Henry, Watkins, Sorensen, Ogbene, either (or both if Henry is unavailable) of Forss or Kirk, plus a MF out of thin air

 

[beebopalula]

It worked for us before for quite some time.. Frank has said a few times that it might come back at some point. :shrug:

It didn't work for us in terms of kicking on to a higher level. IMO one of the reasons we conceded so many goals.

 

[jlove]

It didn't work for us in terms of kicking on to a higher level. IMO one of the reasons we conceded so many goals.

I'd say it didn't work because, for most of last season, we had slug-slow central defenders, a CB at left back and a defensive holding midfielder who wasn't that mobile. Not a combination to kick on. Anyway, let's hope the defence can lock Hull out.

 

[cliffbee]

I can't see that Ollie deserves his place ahead of Sergi in all honesty - he's not really done anything these past few games - OK, a goal here, a goal there but then it appears that he seems to think his job is done - contributing 1 or 2 minutes a game and switching off (or watching the game pass him by) for the remaining 90 minutes is not enough IMHO

........someone had to say it - tin hat on...........



I assume that Moses will be involved, he probably knows more than anyone else within our club about Hull, so I'd go for
Bentley
Dalsgaard Jeanvier Barbet
Odubajo Mokotjo Sawyers Henry/Field
Canos Maupay Benrahma

Subs: a GK(?), Field/Henry, Watkins, Sorensen, Ogbene, either (or both if Henry is unavailable) of Forss or Kirk, plus a MF out of thin air

I think the last game was one of Watkins' best, plus he got the goal. He deserves to stay in. Canos is worth a place too on current form but will contribute fewer goals. It's swings and roundabouts which one to play, assuming we don't keep Canos at wing back. I would be reluctant to play him there again. His effort to stop Swansea's third goal was pretty pathetic

 

[CTBee]

I can't see that Ollie deserves his place ahead of Sergi in all honesty - he's not really done anything these past few games - OK, a goal here, a goal there but then it appears that he seems to think his job is done - contributing 1 or 2 minutes a game and switching off (or watching the game pass him by) for the remaining 90 minutes is not enough IMHO

........someone had to say it - tin hat on...........



I assume that Moses will be involved, he probably knows more than anyone else within our club about Hull, so I'd go for
Bentley
Dalsgaard Jeanvier Barbet
Odubajo Mokotjo Sawyers Henry/Field
Canos Maupay Benrahma

Subs: a GK(?), Field/Henry, Watkins, Sorensen, Ogbene, either (or both if Henry is unavailable) of Forss or Kirk, plus a MF out of thin air

If you had said that about Ollie a couple of months ago I would have agreed but I think he’s been much better recently.

In fact I just checked and he’s currently leading the man of the match poll for our last game.

 

[beebopalula]

I'd say it didn't work because, for most of last season, we had slug-slow central defenders, a CB at left back and a defensive holding midfielder who wasn't that mobile. Not a combination to kick on. Anyway, let's hope the defence can lock Hull out.

I'd add that to be really effective at 4-3-3 you need the wide players to be athletes who need a lot of pace and stamina for tracking as well as attacking. We just don't have that kind of player. Those wide positions are extremely demanding.

 

[alikat]

I can't see that Ollie deserves his place ahead of Sergi in all honesty - he's not really done anything these past few games - OK, a goal here, a goal there but then it appears that he seems to think his job is done - contributing 1 or 2 minutes a game and switching off (or watching the game pass him by) for the remaining 90 minutes is not enough IMHO

........someone had to say it - tin hat on...........



I assume that Moses will be involved, he probably knows more than anyone else within our club about Hull, so I'd go for
Bentley
Dalsgaard Jeanvier Barbet
Odubajo Mokotjo Sawyers Henry/Field
Canos Maupay Benrahma

Subs: a GK(?), Field/Henry, Watkins, Sorensen, Ogbene, either (or both if Henry is unavailable) of Forss or Kirk, plus a MF out of thin air

TF has said that Henry will not be available tomorrow.

 

[redsbee]

That's the spirit. Just trash our players.

JUST DON'T PUT THAT CLOWN IN GOAL AGAIN!

 

[redsbee]

Are you sure. Thought he said he would be. If so:

Dalsgaard, Janvier, Barbet
Moses Kamo Sawyers Canos
Said Maupay Watkins

TF has said that Henry will not be available tomorrow.

 

[WisBee]

Are you sure. Thought he said he would be. If so:

Dalsgaard, Janvier, Barbet
Moses Kamo Sawyers Canos
Said Maupay Watkins

......starting without a GK and only playing 10 men - those injuries and suspensions are really cutting into the squad........

 

[Mr Cynical]

It didn't work for us in terms of kicking on to a higher level. IMO one of the reasons we conceded so many goals.

I don't think it was the formation necessarily. We'd defended pretty well early in the season with the CBs pushing up but then opponents started targeting our full backs and we didn't have an answer for that and that was more down to personnel/form etc.. We've also had spells of conceding good chances recently with the 3-4-3. I think it's a big ask for the midfield 2 in a 3-4-3 and I do think it's good to be able to mix things up a bit from time to time. However we're short in both midfield and at CB so any more injuries/suspensions then both formations look tricky!!