The Andy Scott Thread

The Andy Scott Thread

Davee said:
I might not go Saturday, because the players don't listen, the dug outs need moving and it may well be a bit windy.
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I might not make it either, my reasons are slightly different though. I'm hacked off at watching a sh*t team play crap football that causes me a lot of frustration, anger and costs me time and money. Off the field seems to heading in the right direction but sadly the important on field stuff is simply a pisstake.
 

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nick logan said:
the truth.

People saying its not worth going, following a team doesn't work like that.

Success is moving from one faliure to another without losing motivation. :cool:
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your very right mate, for me personally just fed up of to many lows, but i will follow the light you have shown me and see you down the pub saturday at some point!
 

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nick logan said:
the truth.

People saying its not worth going, following a team doesn't work like that.

Success is moving from one faliure to another without losing motivation. :cool:
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I think you might find there is a little more to success than that.
 

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I wont 'quote' Datchetbee because it will take up too much space, but he has hit the nail 100% on the head. All i could add is that criticising the manager or the players is not disloyal if it is done with the good of the club at heart. I doubt anybody on this message board wants us to get relegated, and i believe that at the moment we are not playing well enough to stay up.
 

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Getting rid of Andy Scott would not be a good move imho as he has demonstrated since he succeeded Butcher that he is more than an adequate manager for us.

We all know (at least I think we do) that this season was not going to be easy and this is what is happening. We need stability starting with keeping our manager. Do we really want a season with three managers again, followed by one who barely made Autumn?

Several of the squad are quite young men who can easily re-act badly to over vocal criticism. So perhaps we need to temper our criticism to help them develop and improve.

As fans we can help the players by being supportive as best we can. A couple of good results would restore confidence and we can help make this happen.


Keep the faith we are no that bad and with the rub of the green we could be mid table by xmas.
 

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One thing I was told many years ago when I was a manager in business is that if you continue doing the same thing then you will get the same results. If you want to change the results then you have to change the way you do things and there I beleive is the problem in a nutshell.

Scott had his preferred method of play last season which for various reasons was succesful, this season that style of football is not good enough yet to date Andy has not changed the style and why that remains the case I cannot see any improvement in the results.

I beleive the players have the ability to play a game built upon pass and move playing the ball on the deck however I am not certain that Andy and Bully have the ability to turn out a team that will play this style, Scott has shown that he is pragmatic, first rule dont be beaten ( worked ok last season) now we need to try and be expansive can the Management team bite the bullet and change the style of play???? time will tell and I reckon their combined future may well depend upon whether they can accept the simple philosophy outlined at the begining of this post.
 

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ade211 said:
Getting rid of Andy Scott would not be a good move imho as he has demonstrated since he succeeded Butcher that he is more than an adequate manager for us.

We all know (at least I think we do) that this season was not going to be easy and this is what is happening. We need stability starting with keeping our manager. Do we really want a season with three managers again, followed by one who barely made Autumn?

Several of the squad are quite young men who can easily re-act badly to over vocal criticism. So perhaps we need to temper our criticism to help them develop and improve.

As fans we can help the players by being supportive as best we can. A couple of good results would restore confidence and we can help make this happen.


Keep the faith we are no that bad and with the rub of the green we could be mid table by xmas.
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Sorry tend to disagree.... we are that bad and with our forthcoming fixtures mid table is highly unlikely
 

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The thing is with Scott is that he is now being seen for what he really is, the image he had last season was almost cringeworthy.

If people knew him and his backroom team (assistant and Youth Manager) personally they would form a completly different opinion on them, trust me i know.

The way certain people are spoken to and treated like its no wonder results on the field are going the way they are.

Shoot me down all you like and I know certain people on here will have a laugh at this but its got to the point where i dont care about what is said about it now.

As the saying go goes "its football init"
 

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ade211 said:
Getting rid of Andy Scott would not be a good move imho as he has demonstrated since he succeeded Butcher that he is more than an adequate manager for us.

We all know (at least I think we do) that this season was not going to be easy and this is what is happening. We need stability starting with keeping our manager. Do we really want a season with three managers again, followed by one who barely made Autumn?

Several of the squad are quite young men who can easily re-act badly to over vocal criticism. So perhaps we need to temper our criticism to help them develop and improve.

As fans we can help the players by being supportive as best we can. A couple of good results would restore confidence and we can help make this happen.


Keep the faith we are no that bad and with the rub of the green we could be mid table by xmas.
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...........................so tell the fukcing manager that going to the press slating those individuals is simply not on, and that blaming the weather, the dugouts, the wrong type of washing powder in the players shorts*, is similarly not on........................



*to the best of my knowledge and belief, this last excuse has not yet been used, but don't rule it out just yet awhile.........
 

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Tough games

Yep the next few fixtures are not going to be easy but time will tell. I hope you are not right but we will see.

best
 

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WisBee said:
...........................so tell the fukcing manager that going to the press slating those individuals is simply not on, and that blaming the weather, the dugouts, the wrong type of washing powder in the players shorts*, is similarly not on........................



*to the best of my knowledge and belief, this last excuse has not yet been used, but don't rule it out just yet awhile.........
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As you probably realised I was focussing more on what we could do from the terraces.

Thanks for your reply

ade
 

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ade211 said:
As you probably realised I was focussing more on what we could do from the terraces.

Thanks for your reply

ade
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..................I would imagine that a public dressing down from ones manager is much much more of a demotivating force than someone yelling from the terraces 'Pull yer fukcing finger out (whoever)'.................just my opinion..........
 

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paulbfc said:
The thing is with Scott is that he is now being seen for what he really is, the image he had last season was almost cringeworthy.

If people knew him and his backroom team (assistant and Youth Manager) personally they would form a completly different opinion on them, trust me i know.

The way certain people are spoken to and treated like its no wonder results on the field are going the way they are.

Shoot me down all you like and I know certain people on here will have a laugh at this but its got to the point where i dont care about what is said about it now.

As the saying go goes "its football init"
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Do you wish to expand on this as putting such a statement on a public message board is either in the "I know something you dont mode" or can be backed up in some way........ I would mention that this is a PUBLIC message board and as such you need to take care against any libelous comments you may wish to record:nono: but for all of us avid readers.....go on spill the beans:D
 

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" has andy scott passed his best before date?"

yes :wave:
 

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lol some people wont be happy unless we win 5-0 every game so it's pointless. Okay then, lets sack Andy Scott, who we gonna bring in? Coppell = NO Allen = NO Im not saying I dont want them its the fact that they wont come back, so who is going to lift us and make us better? Andy has brought in some great players recentely, instead of blaming the manager, how about we realise its the players playing the football out there and they are the ones making mistakes.

Oh and by the way, are we in the relegation zone? NO so why panic and become suicidal
 

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NorthamptonBee said:
"Am I alone in taking a dislike to Andy Scott
Having watched his teams a few times now I just find them a moaning, cheating bunch with any skill carefully removed"
A Wycombe view. Not just me then.
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Oh, so they're all GPG scribblers from somewhere in the Midlands then?
 

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hjohayes said:
:eek:
murphy, taylor, kabba, price, foster= good players

:nono:
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Harsh to judge young Murphy on 45 minutes last night. Wouldn't disagree with the others though based on what I've seen so far this season.
 

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Pointless getting rid of AS.

He'll be given to xmas .... then it'll probably take a 4 week search for a new manager. So by the end of Jan, we'll be fooked anyway.

We'll only end up with a new "young promising manager" that we all have to google to find out who he is. We can't afford anybody decent, and we probably wouldn't attract anybody who could save us.

So lets just pray things turn around ... enjoy xmas, and look forward to playing Oxford next season if things continue the way they are.

Can't be a nice situation for our CEO (or whoever is responsible to hiring/firing).

In 100 years, we'll all be dead ... lifes too short. So lets just enjoy a pint and burger and game of football. Just accept this season is a write off.
 

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paulbfc said:
The thing is with Scott is that he is now being seen for what he really is, the image he had last season was almost cringeworthy.

If people knew him and his backroom team (assistant and Youth Manager) personally they would form a completly different opinion on them, trust me i know.
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Go on then !
Released youth player ? Brother of failed trialist ? Uncle of Dave the kitman ? Nephew of some agent whose nose is out of joint ? Or are you just stirring with no real angle ?
 

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paulbfc said:
The thing is with Scott is that he is now being seen for what he really is, the image he had last season was almost cringeworthy.

If people knew him and his backroom team (assistant and Youth Manager) personally they would form a completly different opinion on them, trust me i know.

The way certain people are spoken to and treated like its no wonder results on the field are going the way they are.

Shoot me down all you like and I know certain people on here will have a laugh at this but its got to the point where i dont care about what is said about it now.

As the saying go goes "its football init"
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Please tell us more.

:cool:
 

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ade211 said:
Getting rid of Andy Scott would not be a good move imho as he has demonstrated since he succeeded Butcher that he is more than an adequate manager for us.

We all know (at least I think we do) that this season was not going to be easy and this is what is happening. We need stability starting with keeping our manager. Do we really want a season with three managers again, followed by one who barely made Autumn?

Several of the squad are quite young men who can easily re-act badly to over vocal criticism. So perhaps we need to temper our criticism to help them develop and improve.

As fans we can help the players by being supportive as best we can. A couple of good results would restore confidence and we can help make this happen.


Keep the faith we are no that bad and with the rub of the green we could be mid table by xmas.
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I agree - great post. keep the faith!
 

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AS will be manager for quite some time yet.
It is a young side and l for one am confident that results will improve THIS MONTH. l also would prefer a cup run to keep the coffers flowing and the squad engaged in. However,If we are where we are come February then l would look to change the management as it will be obvious there is disquiet in the camp. On the plus side the last few loan deals have been superb and need time to gel.

A february assessment is the test and one that l believe AS and the team will more than meet. If not there is no sentiment, AS will have had all the opportunity required. l say this as a follower and not a supporter.
 

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Untill New Year

I still reckon we were lucky last season with the Ipswich players,anyway.AS does not appear to be tictac wise to change a game?Same formation,change a player?Players played out of chosen position?Dickson and Weston was HUGE loss yesterday,but maybe the right hand side could of been utilised better? Andy is inexperienced,older managers have plan a,b,or c we dont.

Drove to Andover( fecking hour) today to see my son captain the school u 11's B team.Gawd are they sh*te down,4 -0 in 10 mins,my son of course best player for our team,actually he was.Half time talk,we lasted the whole second half by only conceding( sp?) one goal.

Football is not difficult some times with out personalities

edit ok bad spelin innit
 

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Niyx said:
Pointless getting rid of AS.

He'll be given to xmas .... then it'll probably take a 4 week search for a new manager. So by the end of Jan, we'll be fooked anyway.

We'll only end up with a new "young promising manager" that we all have to google to find out who he is. We can't afford anybody decent, and we probably wouldn't attract anybody who could save us.

So lets just pray things turn around ... enjoy xmas, and look forward to playing Oxford next season if things continue the way they are.

Can't be a nice situation for our CEO (or whoever is responsible to hiring/firing).

In 100 years, we'll all be dead ... lifes too short. So lets just enjoy a pint and burger and game of football. Just accept this season is a write off.
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..................Or
Let's wait until we're bottom with 10 games to go............cue MadDOG...:D
 

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The Pipe said:
Do you wish to expand on this as putting such a statement on a public message board is either in the "I know something you dont mode" or can be backed up in some way........ I would mention that this is a PUBLIC message board and as such you need to take care against any libelous comments you may wish to record:nono: but for all of us avid readers.....go on spill the beans:D
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as you said its a public message board and is difficult to get the facts across due to the whole libel thing but people close to and within the club know what im talking about and im sure many feel the same.
 

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SmiffyBee said:
But he is right though.
It IS November.
We ARE above the drop zone.
There is no sense in panic.
Despite the loss last night we have a stronger team now than at the start of the season. Give them some time to play together and the points will come.
We could well have come away with an undeserved point last night and 90 % of the panic monkeys would have been happy. FACT
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I understand both sides of the discussion. However, the league table doesn't lie and we are where we are!. Our away form is very poor and loyal supporters are starting to question their "faith" (including me, although perhaps for slightly different reasons), what happens if we lose at Tranmere?

Our chances of relegation are meduim to high, but their is time to turn it around. I am not sure that we do have a stronger team than at the start of the season, our form in Aug/Sept was good and we have got steadily worse.

Of course, new players need time to settle in but AS seems to keep chopping and changing the side, and players playing out of their natural postion. The team seems to play well for 15/20 mins each game and then seem to relax - you cant do that unless you want to get beaten.

I do think several of the players we signed in mid-summer (should be offloaded) and are simply not good enough. We do need a big shake up soon, but I also think that some of the newer players (like Kaba, Blake and perhaps, Cort) have not been given a fare chance (run in the team) and I cannot understand why?.
 
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The Pipe said:
One thing I was told many years ago when I was a manager in business is that if you continue doing the same thing then you will get the same results. If you want to change the results then you have to change the way you do things and there I beleive is the problem in a nutshell.

Scott had his preferred method of play last season which for various reasons was succesful, this season that style of football is not good enough yet to date Andy has not changed the style and why that remains the case I cannot see any improvement in the results.

I beleive the players have the ability to play a game built upon pass and move playing the ball on the deck however I am not certain that Andy and Bully have the ability to turn out a team that will play this style, Scott has shown that he is pragmatic, first rule dont be beaten ( worked ok last season) now we need to try and be expansive can the Management team bite the bullet and change the style of play???? time will tell and I reckon their combined future may well depend upon whether they can accept the simple philosophy outlined at the begining of this post.
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:sorted: spot on again mr pipe :wave:
 

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Owlsmoor_Bee said:
Why not ? I don't think there's anything wrong with telling the players to start enjoying themselves again is there ? I thought there was more of a positive tone to his message than a negative one. :shrug:
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I dunno maybe you're right...smacks a little bit of buck passing to me, but maybe I'm reading too much into it :shrug:
 

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Owlsmoor_Bee said:
Why not ? I don't think there's anything wrong with telling the players to start enjoying themselves again is there ? I thought there was more of a positive tone to his message than a negative one. :shrug:
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Agreed.

There also might be an element within the comment about his own playing career. ;)
 

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Muy gran told me to eat my sprouts because children were starving in Africa.
Thought that was rubbish back then! God rest her soul.
 

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Owlsmoor_Bee said:
Why not ? I don't think there's anything wrong with telling the players to start enjoying themselves again is there ? I thought there was more of a positive tone to his message than a negative one. :shrug:
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:confused: what the **** is that meant to mean? is he now in touch with the spirit world? has he found a quote from the paul merson book of babbleology?All i know is i turn up shell out, and rarely do i leave with a smile on my face.
What a t**ser:sad:
 

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Owlsmoor_Bee said:
Why not ? I don't think there's anything wrong with telling the players to start enjoying themselves again is there ? I thought there was more of a positive tone to his message than a negative one. :shrug:
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Perhaps us supporters should start enjoying it as well, starting Saturday. I will cast aside my normal miserable moaning git glass half-empty approach to BFC and approach the game with insane optimism. Couple of extra pints of Pride should see to that.
 

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Wise old Bee said:
Perhaps us supporters should start enjoying it as well, starting Saturday. I will cast aside my normal miserable moaning git glass half-empty approach to BFC and approach the game with insane optimism. Couple of extra pints of Pride should see to that.
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:wave: me to
 

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The knives are out........
I've never worried too much about managers staying or going, most I've liked some I haven't. I'm sure that Andy Scott will walk if we have too many more Wycombes, Yeovils, Bristol Rovers, Swindons and Exeters, he strikes me as an honourable chap who has time and wants the best for our club.
 

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This Sat tells:wave:
 

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shouldbee said:
Well Mr Scott can certaintly talk the talk, but can he walk the walk.......?
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I agree. Not once have I heard AS admit to being wrong. Always got someone or some thing to blame.
 

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wayfarer172 said:
I agree. Not once have I heard AS admit to being wrong. Always got someone or some thing to blame.
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a win on Saturday will change peoples opinions, hopefully:D
 

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NorthamptonBee said:
The knives are out.........
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I'm just waiting for the first....My window cleaners mate who drinks with a fella who know's a bloke who saw Bee H & abee & Greg sharing a Happy Meal with (fill in your own name) rumour.
 
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