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and so am i ianhl and brbee---
davee you are a good bloke and a very amusing writer but give as a break!
davee you are a good bloke and a very amusing writer but give as a break!
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IMHO Yes. Even if we were to be relegated this season I would hope to see Scotty lead the team at the start of next season. It's time to stop chopping and changing and invest some faith in a young and talented manager; who will come good.
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In Andy I trust, what other Manager in L1 could have brought the players on loan that Andy has, at a price we can afford ??
At the end of the season I hope we're all worried that Andy may leave us ????
Totally agree with Beestill, get behind the lad.
At the end of the season I hope we're all worried that Andy may leave us ????
Totally agree with Beestill, get behind the lad.
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Reading through this thread makes me feel ill.
Sweepy, I agree with your post on page 29, cant be bothered to go back and quote it.
Saturday Scott compramised all footballing principles and pride etc. He set up against the "Name" not the "Team". Anyone would think we were just about to play the old Leeds champions league team of years ago! That shows how much faith he has in his players ability. We've earned the right to be in this league and deservedly were in the same league as "Mighty" Leeds now, why not go out and prove your deserving of being in this league. Im sure players like Charlie Mac were chuffed with his role. This is all ongoing sh*te that is just gonna all end in tears come the end of the season.
If I'm wrong, then fair enough I'll hold my hands up at the end of the season. But at the moment theres more signs to say that I'm gonna be right.
Sweepy, I agree with your post on page 29, cant be bothered to go back and quote it.
Saturday Scott compramised all footballing principles and pride etc. He set up against the "Name" not the "Team". Anyone would think we were just about to play the old Leeds champions league team of years ago! That shows how much faith he has in his players ability. We've earned the right to be in this league and deservedly were in the same league as "Mighty" Leeds now, why not go out and prove your deserving of being in this league. Im sure players like Charlie Mac were chuffed with his role. This is all ongoing sh*te that is just gonna all end in tears come the end of the season.
If I'm wrong, then fair enough I'll hold my hands up at the end of the season. But at the moment theres more signs to say that I'm gonna be right.
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I'm proud of a 0-0 draw :shrug: not many have managed that against leeds this season. principles and pride
However I still think we should get a new manager in and then sack him when we don't get successive promotions. It's a winning formula that has been extremely succesful for us :yes:
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I stopped reading there.
Have you seen Leeds' record this season ?
We are only the 4th team to stop them scoring and they have won about 15 of their 20 odd games
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I replied to a similar post to yours in the match thread..Here's my reply from the match thread:
So we could end up like these teams, who presumably tried to win infront of their home fans against Leeds....
Oldham (L 0-2), Brighton (L 0-3) , Bristol Rovers (L 0-4) , MK Dons (L 0-1) etc etc
We are the third team in this league to have a clean sheet against Leeds (who will get promoted this season), that can only be seen as a good thing IMHO
AS and the players did a job on Leeds, we made them look average, If we didn't stick to our plans/tactics, those same Leeds players on the pitch would have added Brentford to the list of teams i mentioned above.
If AS decides to use the same tactics against Charlton (who are 2nd in the table) i for one wouldn't be disappointed.
In regards to "ambition" what were you expecting? we're the new boys from league 2, the name of the game for us is to stay in league 1. NEXT season we can worry about beating every team that comes to GP on our way to the Championship..... lol
It really does seem that AS can't win in the eyes of some posters. Get a draw againt the team at the top of the table, a team who has won more games then any other in the league, a team who will get promoted = Not good enough
God help us if we had lost, this thread would have gone into meltdown......
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Surely the issue is where do we go from here. The result against Leeds was good [ I didn't expect anything]. However, we have to build on it. Let's see where we are at the end of December. A couple of defeats at Gillingham and MK will set us back.
Put in its total context, the Leeds result was just a home draw and we are drawing too many at home [ mostly] and losing away.We can't score and that's the problem. Drawing at home and losing away equals the drop.
AS will be judged by results as football is a results based industry. If things do go pear shaped, I think it would be too late post Jan to part company as any new manager would have no scope as the Jan window would be closed.Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Put in its total context, the Leeds result was just a home draw and we are drawing too many at home [ mostly] and losing away.We can't score and that's the problem. Drawing at home and losing away equals the drop.
AS will be judged by results as football is a results based industry. If things do go pear shaped, I think it would be too late post Jan to part company as any new manager would have no scope as the Jan window would be closed.Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
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It really is an absolutely ridiculous post. Anyone would think that we'd just drawn with some mid-table nobodies rather than the team that nearly everyone has failed to beat this season. 
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please lets not get over excited with each other here....we all want success but i do come from the band who think AS is doing a great job on what is a minute (but realistic budget) against teams that were in FA cup finals a couple of years ago. Tactics have been mentioned by some and I am sure AS has made some mistakes that have kept him awake at night but we must not lose sight of the calibre of loan signings he has brought in at the fraction of th cost it would have been to source these players ourselves as well as the statbility he has tried to achieve. He has done a bloody good job and is still learning so: we sign up for the journey (though that doesnt mean people are not entitled to question his decisions) or we say: 'well he does alright half the time but **** him off and get someone else in' and watch as we slowly return to the depths we sunk too a few years ago.Say what you like he seems to have a personal interest in the club that even MA didnt show when things were going well (ie always ready for an adhoc job interview). Free speach to all but lets not get at each other..we are better than that!!
Merry Xmas all of ya and I wouldnt be at all surprised if we pull off some decent..but unexpected..results very soon!!!
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I'm not with you, but admire your faith.
Merry Christmas to you sir!
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if we went down i would like to see AS stay and give him a crack at it again why not we need stability but obv it depends on the manner in which we got relegated
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Dont worry WE AINT GOING DOWN. Although I was against the appointment of AS, I have to give him credit for the quality of the loan players he has bought in. Trouble is they all have to go back to there parant clubs at some point. January is going to be a very interesting month methinks.
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Not saying he is the same standard, but how many promotions & relegations has Dario Gradi had at Crewe?
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Gradi is still there aint he, everytime they get rid of a manager he steps in as caretaker.....but yes i said this a month or two ago we need stability but obviously depends on circumstances but keep AS.
We wont be able to replace him with anyone as good
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Same, but I think the January Sales & Cull are gonna be well massive.
Let's hope it goes well and we get in some surprising signings and move on up!
Merry Christmas to you and yours Mr Magic!
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i cant understand some of these threads we nearly nicked all 3 points at the end and if we had everyone would be want a pick to line up like that the end of the day we aint got the money leeds has and to make them look like a up and under side was a great result lets get behide the as and the boys he taken us forward and i happy with that
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The tactics that stifled Leeds seem to have given a possible answer on the road. AS is learning all the time, and while he continues to grow as a manager to remove him would be madness.
It's a bit fashionable to chant 4-4-2 when a team goes 4-5-1 with the Prem teams, but Brentford don't have a Forster or a Rhodes (well, not anymore anyway) and so it doesn't seem a bad option for away matches. I'll be interested to hear what the critics have to say tonight.
It's a bit fashionable to chant 4-4-2 when a team goes 4-5-1 with the Prem teams, but Brentford don't have a Forster or a Rhodes (well, not anymore anyway) and so it doesn't seem a bad option for away matches. I'll be interested to hear what the critics have to say tonight.
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GREAT result yesterday, shows that AS IMO is a good manager with the tactics set up. However, we can't afford to have 2 shots every away game each week, it's not a winning formula in the long run, we will stay up though
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4 points dont make a season but thats 4 bloody good points from Leeds and
MK conDONS. Throw in the 3 against Colchester and another clean sheet and it looks rather rosey all of a sudden (if we agree not to mention Tranmere).
MK conDONS. Throw in the 3 against Colchester and another clean sheet and it looks rather rosey all of a sudden (if we agree not to mention Tranmere).
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It really is time to put this toshing thread to bed!! Everything that has been thrown at AS and his team over the last weeks has proved to be utter nonsense. Some of the classic predictions:
- he won't drop Alan Bennett, he's his favourite - urm ... wrong!
- he criticises his team in public, therefore he will lose the dressing room - urm ... wrong!
- he's out of his depth tactically in League One - urm ... VERY wrong!
- we can't win away from home ......yep, you guessed it! Wrong again!
- we'lll be in the bottom three by the New Year - I think we can all bet against that one now!
For those who had eyes to see the signs were always there that AS and the team were capable of turning their form round. For a start, promotion is never won luckily - managers who take teams up, are good managers. Period! AS deserved much more faith from fans merely on that basis. But, anyway, apart from a few blips results were never as bad as was suggested.
In the last few weeks AS's decisions have been exemplary and his good standing in the game has proved a massive asset. We needed loan players to stabilise our form and position -we got them ....and all of them have been quality players. We needed to tighten up at the back - we've done it and AS has had the courage to go with a youngster fresh out of non-league rather than a loaneee from the championship. During this time, AS has shown himself to be tactically imaginative and flexible and to have the team fully behind him.
Maybe there are still some posters out there who doubt that we have one of the best young managers in the lower leagues. I have a New Year's resolution for you: WAKE UP!.... pleeeeease
- he won't drop Alan Bennett, he's his favourite - urm ... wrong!
- he criticises his team in public, therefore he will lose the dressing room - urm ... wrong!
- he's out of his depth tactically in League One - urm ... VERY wrong!
- we can't win away from home ......yep, you guessed it! Wrong again!
- we'lll be in the bottom three by the New Year - I think we can all bet against that one now!
For those who had eyes to see the signs were always there that AS and the team were capable of turning their form round. For a start, promotion is never won luckily - managers who take teams up, are good managers. Period! AS deserved much more faith from fans merely on that basis. But, anyway, apart from a few blips results were never as bad as was suggested.
In the last few weeks AS's decisions have been exemplary and his good standing in the game has proved a massive asset. We needed loan players to stabilise our form and position -we got them ....and all of them have been quality players. We needed to tighten up at the back - we've done it and AS has had the courage to go with a youngster fresh out of non-league rather than a loaneee from the championship. During this time, AS has shown himself to be tactically imaginative and flexible and to have the team fully behind him.
Maybe there are still some posters out there who doubt that we have one of the best young managers in the lower leagues. I have a New Year's resolution for you: WAKE UP!.... pleeeeease
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It really is time to put this toshing thread to bed!! Everything that has been thrown at AS and his team over the last weeks has proved to be utter nonsense. Some of the classic predictions:
- he won't drop Alan Bennett, he's his favourite - urm ... wrong!
- he criticises his team in public, therefore he will lose the dressing room - urm ... wrong!
- he's out of his depth tactically in League One - urm ... VERY wrong!
- we can't win away from home ......yep, you guessed it! Wrong again!
- we'lll be in the bottom three by the New Year - I think we can all bet against that one now!
For those who had eyes to see the signs were always there that AS and the team were capable of turning their form round. For a start, promotion is never won luckily - managers who take teams up, are good managers. Period! AS deserved much more faith from fans merely on that basis. But, anyway, apart from a few blips results were never as bad as was suggested.
In the last few weeks AS's decisions have been exemplary and his good standing in the game has proved a massive asset. We needed loan players to stabilise our form and position -we got them ....and all of them have been quality players. We needed to tighten up at the back - we've done it and AS has had the courage to go with a youngster fresh out of non-league rather than a loaneee from the championship. During this time, AS has shown himself to be tactically imaginative and flexible and to have the team fully behind him.
Maybe there are still some posters out there who doubt that we have one of the best young managers in the lower leagues. I have a New Year's resolution for you: WAKE UP!.... pleeeeease
Agree with much that you say & I too am a big supporter of AS. I hate some of the OTT posts that have appeared in relation to him. However, I can understand some of the genuine worries that have been posted previously. Performances against Bristol Rovers, Swindon, Yeovil & Exeter were very poor. Fortunately I was on holiday for the Wycombe game but the texts I received suggested a similar woeful performance. However, I'm delighted that the man has turned things around (& that is what good managers do). All the best for 2010 Mr. Scott. Up the Bees
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Think it's gonna be a very interesting Jan sales for Mr Scott. He has been proved well worthy of the budget increase (I never had the faith, and I was so wrong) he has the knack of winning badly, and that is a fantastic skill in itself.
Hopefully good times ahead for BFC! Happy new year to you all!
Hopefully good times ahead for BFC! Happy new year to you all!
IslandBee
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The best way to achieve this is to reply to it after a week of inactivity IMHO
Perhaps my first sentence was rhetorical!? I have no expectation this thread will close and know it will be full of anti-AS vitriol as soon as we lose again. But for now, it was time to make again the case for AS
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Hey Dave - all you have got right in recent weeks is your choice of holiday towns
Hope you will make it to Ventnor in the New Year! 
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Hey Dave - all you have got right in recent weeks is your choice of holiday towns
Yep, totally wrong! Well done, love to Ventnor too!
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It really is time to put this toshing thread to bed!! Everything that has been thrown at AS and his team over the last weeks has proved to be utter nonsense. Some of the classic predictions:
- he won't drop Alan Bennett, he's his favourite - urm ... wrong!
- he criticises his team in public, therefore he will lose the dressing room - urm ... wrong!
- he's out of his depth tactically in League One - urm ... VERY wrong!
- we can't win away from home ......yep, you guessed it! Wrong again!
- we'lll be in the bottom three by the New Year - I think we can all bet against that one now!
For those who had eyes to see the signs were always there that AS and the team were capable of turning their form round. For a start, promotion is never won luckily - managers who take teams up, are good managers. Period! AS deserved much more faith from fans merely on that basis. But, anyway, apart from a few blips results were never as bad as was suggested.
In the last few weeks AS's decisions have been exemplary and his good standing in the game has proved a massive asset. We needed loan players to stabilise our form and position -we got them ....and all of them have been quality players. We needed to tighten up at the back - we've done it and AS has had the courage to go with a youngster fresh out of non-league rather than a loaneee from the championship. During this time, AS has shown himself to be tactically imaginative and flexible and to have the team fully behind him.
Maybe there are still some posters out there who doubt that we have one of the best young managers in the lower leagues. I have a New Year's resolution for you: WAKE UP!.... pleeeeease
I really don't understand some of the posts in this thread, especially looking back to November/October. Yes there were some really poor performances but I think that was mainly down to some very poor individual performances. Instead of rushing into massive changes he's steadily tweaked the team, brought in some incredible loanees, brought forwards improving squad members to the first team, pushed back underperforming first team members to the bench and tried new tactics in some really tough matches. Wenger and Redknapp certainly seem to respect AS and Bullivant and they should know! Let's face it, Szczesny could easily play in the Championship or even a bottom half Premiership side and is only getting better.The fact that we managed to win yesterday without the presence of Szczesny or Dickson shows that we have reasonable depth to the team too.
By all means question AS's performance, challenge his decisions and if the team cannot recover from bad runs then start asking questions but let's give the man a chance. He has shown himself to be an incredible talent and we are lucky to have him!
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The fact that we managed to win yesterday without the presence of Szczesny or Dickson shows that we have reasonable depth to the team too.
By all means question AS's performance, challenge his decisions and if the team cannot recover from bad runs then start asking questions but let's give the man a chance. He has shown himself to be an incredible talent and we are lucky to have him!
Fully agree with this post, however you're fighting 50 years of the "its Brentford innit" mentality. Judge Scott and the players at the end of the season. My feeling is that both are learning fast and adapting and will do ok. Unfortunately the mood of too many supporters are guided by the last game (up or down) instead of looking at the bigger picture and where the club are going on and off the pitch. For what its worth I feel Andy Scott will go down as one of our best managers ever, enjoy him while he is here!
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this thread's title is soooo negative ---- dare i say it, sooooo brentford.
can't we even just shorten the thread to Andy Scott, to discuss our manager?
chief inspector sir les and the message board police ?????
can't we even just shorten the thread to Andy Scott, to discuss our manager?
chief inspector sir les and the message board police ?????
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Anyone who slags off Andy Scott is either very fickle, knows nothing about football or just not a Brentford fan at all. That man has taken the club from where it was 25 months ago, heading for the Blue Star, to where we are now, 11th in League 1, ok we had a bad run, whatever, Scotty is still, and will always be the man
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Norwich manager for that award I reckon... unbeaten in 10 games.... whereas we lost to Tranmere Rovers!!
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I hold my hands up. I was totally wrong in my predictions. Well done AS and the teams he put out. So far we have played 9 of those games,Won 3,Drawn 4, and lost just 2..Scored 7 goals and let in &. Not bad at all.