Thomas Frank

[Bigbee]

They’ve not got much wrong but leaving us with a small squad lacking any particular central midfield steel, height, pace or maybe even goals, plus no genuine second striker was a distinct oversight.

Not much wrong ? I hate to see a monumental cock up by the club then !

 

[GP200]

Not much wrong ? I hate to see a monumental cock up by the club then !

............thank you Denis Norden..............

 

[Bigbee]

............thank you Denis Norden..............

it'll be alright I suppose

 

[PJ]

Agreed. And that’s been exacerbated by an imbalance in the squad as well. They’ve not got much wrong but leaving us with a small squad lacking any particular central midfield steel, height, pace or maybe even goals, plus no genuine second striker was a distinct oversight.

Reading between the lines i'd say they over promoted Forss, who might have been better off having a year out on loan in L1/L2.
He then got injured anyway and i think 0llie was seen more of a central option as well, which has yet to bear fruit.

 

[w7 bee]

If he became an undertaker would people stop dying?

 

[walmerbee]

We’re just into December - they weren’t “certain” relegation candidates. Thank **** you’re not anywhere near advising MB.

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

 

[jbee]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

Hate this kind of thing. By all means give an opinion but don’t act the biggun. Nobody cares about your day job or your ego.

 

[finsbury_bee]

Looking like he wasn’t the brains behind the operation. Maybe he was foisted on DS who just put up with him?

 

[dbee3]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

Well done, big win for you. Big win. :grey:

 

[longdistancebee]

I can't face watching the press conf afterwards. What did TF say? I really really hope he doesn't say "We are going in the right direction", one more time...…

 

[YorkBee]

Just watched the press conference jeez i feel sorry for the poor sod he looks like a man expecting a call to the gallows

 

[beebopalula]

Just watched the press conference jeez i feel sorry for the poor sod he looks like a man expecting a call to the gallows

I felt for him. The thing is he's bang on when it comes to analysing the issues but we don't see any improvement.

 

[sonofabee]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

Thank you Sir Alan, surprised you have the time to share your opinion with us minions.
Out of interest who do you personally advise that is earning more than MB?

 

[shouldbee]

It was difficult to watch. What went through my mind was could somebody else do better ? The problems lay fairly and squarely with the players. I think some of them think they are better than they are. When we were riding high all the "paper" talk was about how we were turning down 15 M bids for Mepham and how premier league clubs were chomping at the bit to sign our superstars Watkins and Maupay, well the fact is none of them are premier league quality YET. They need to get their heads down and establish themselves as quality Championship players first and Brentford is the club where they can make this happen.

Everyone has their opinions on all the players but IMO we are lacking in key positions and until we bring in reinforcements we will continue to struggle. Thomas Frank has shuffled the pack today and it's not made any difference, not sure anyone else could do better.

 

[banburybee]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

Hahaha i

'I cannot help noticing that I seem to have more money than yow'

 

[beebopalula]

It was difficult to watch. What went through my mind was could somebody else do better ? The problems lay fairly and squarely with the players. I think some of them think they are better than they are. When we were riding high all the "paper" talk was about how we were turning down 15 M bids for Mepham and how premier league clubs were chomping at the bit to sign our superstars Watkins and Maupay, well the fact is none of them are premier league quality YET. They need to get their heads down and establish themselves as quality Championship players first and Brentford is the club where they can make this happen.

Everyone has their opinions on all the players but IMO we are lacking in key positions and until we bring in reinforcements we will continue to struggle. Thomas Frank has shuffled the pack today and it's not made any difference, not sure anyone else could do better.

Agree it's a dilemma. However sometimes psychology and attitude make a huge difference. Martin Allen turned us around with the same bunch of players as did Carsley. Having said that l don't know where a replacement would come from. What troubles me is that Frank is spot on with his analysis of our issues but he can't seem to produce an improvement.Defensively we look like a leaking seive yet we are apparently working hard at it. We move the ball too slowly despite his comments about it

 

[Mudbone]

Hahaha i

'I cannot help noticing that I seem to have considerably more money than yow'

 

[King Bee]

It was difficult to watch. What went through my mind was could somebody else do better ? The problems lay fairly and squarely with the players. I think some of them think they are better than they are. When we were riding high all the "paper" talk was about how we were turning down 15 M bids for Mepham and how premier league clubs were chomping at the bit to sign our superstars Watkins and Maupay, well the fact is none of them are premier league quality YET. They need to get their heads down and establish themselves as quality Championship players first and Brentford is the club where they can make this happen.

Everyone has their opinions on all the players but IMO we are lacking in key positions and until we bring in reinforcements we will continue to struggle. Thomas Frank has shuffled the pack today and it's not made any difference, not sure anyone else could do better.

This! I totally agree, I think there are a multitude of factors here, the blame shouldn’t be thrown squarely at Frank. Not sure another head coach would make much of a difference at this stage without reinforcements in January. We sorely missing a leader or two out there.

 

[rebus]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

Oh my lord and Master. I’m bowing and scraping at the keyboard. Companies? So what? Intellectually, your views are one of a footballing lightweight and piping back here after a defeat doesn’t change that. PS I expected nothing today either - the result proves zilch!

 

[Bill Benn]

It was difficult to watch. What went through my mind was could somebody else do better ? The problems lay fairly and squarely with the players. I think some of them think they are better than they are. When we were riding high all the "paper" talk was about how we were turning down 15 M bids for Mepham and how premier league clubs were chomping at the bit to sign our superstars Watkins and Maupay, well the fact is none of them are premier league quality YET. They need to get their heads down and establish themselves as quality Championship players first and Brentford is the club where they can make this happen.

Everyone has their opinions on all the players but IMO we are lacking in key positions and until we bring in reinforcements we will continue to struggle. Thomas Frank has shuffled the pack today and it's not made any difference, not sure anyone else could do better.

I was thinking the same

 

[whyteleafebee76]

It was difficult to watch. What went through my mind was could somebody else do better ? The problems lay fairly and squarely with the players. I think some of them think they are better than they are. When we were riding high all the "paper" talk was about how we were turning down 15 M bids for Mepham and how premier league clubs were chomping at the bit to sign our superstars Watkins and Maupay, well the fact is none of them are premier league quality YET. They need to get their heads down and establish themselves as quality Championship players first and Brentford is the club where they can make this happen.

Everyone has their opinions on all the players but IMO we are lacking in key positions and until we bring in reinforcements we will continue to struggle. Thomas Frank has shuffled the pack today and it's not made any difference, not sure anyone else could do better.

He shuffled the wrong players in the pack. Dalsgaard, Yennaris and probably Watkins should not be starting. Barbet should be ahead of Jeanvier in the CB pecking order as well.

 

[Brentford 4 Life]

The manner of the defeat and the way the game just drifted to the inevitable was really worrying today. Persisting with two holding midfielders when we were already two nil down, against one of the divisions lowest scorers, and also not throwing more men forward when Hull dropped deeper for the last 15-20 mins makes me wonder if Frank can turn it around, especially as tactics are supposed to be his strong point.

Hull were so poor and yet won so easily. Swansea were bang out of form and found themselves gifted a 3 nil lead. If Frank is the man (and circumstances couldn’t have been harder for him) to turn this around it would be a Hollywood style comeback.

 

[whyteleafebee76]

The manner of the defeat and the way the game just drifted to the inevitable was really worrying today. Persisting with two holding midfielders when we were already two nil down, against one of the divisions lowest scorers, and also not throwing more men forward when Hull dropped deeper for the last 15-20 mins makes me wonder if Frank can turn it around, especially as tactics are supposed to be his strong point.

Hull were so poor and yet won so easily. Swansea were bang out of form and found themselves gifted a 3 nil lead. If Frank is the man (and circumstances couldn’t have been harder for him) to turn this around it would be a Hollywood style comeback.

Agree, Hull were so deep in the last 30 minutes yet we didn't really bomb forward and heap pressure on them and never really worked their keeper.

 

[Brentford 4 Life]

Agree, Hull were so deep in the last 30 minutes yet we didn't really bomb forward and heap pressure on them and never really worked their keeper.

Same as last season, winning was so alien to them and yet we insisted they won that match. Even at 2-0 they were there for the taking, but we have nothing about us.

 

[YorkBee]

There was a post earlier on about players not giving a s**t because:
a) they were coming to the end of their contracts,
or b) likely to be off in the January window.
I'm sorry I don't have the energy to look back and find it I've been to sleep for a rest. but one thing is patently clear to those players. If you dont pull your fingers out of your collective backsides and start playing as though you really want those moves you have to do a certain amount of things.
Firstly you have to prove to prospective employers that you are worth taking a punt on, and secondly you need to show some pride in your performance.
I wasn't at Hull for health reasons. But going by the input on this board. It is either a massive collective loss of confidence or the players just don't care anymore. If it is the latter then no future employer is going to consider giving you a contract based on the performances over the past few months. and that runs from the Goalkeeper right through to the number 11 or whatever the highest shirt number is on the day. Yes you are ALL young, but you are doing a job that the majority of people on here would give their right arms for. ( except any Goalkeepers ) and probably for less money than you are getting paid. I can appreciate that injuries happen and that form can dip from time to time but for an entire team to go out of form all at the same time? sorry it doesn't happen. Maybe you do need an Ugly big Leader on the pitch to kick butts or offer words of encouragement, but at present One of you has to step up and try to be that person. Maybe Dalsgaard does need a break from playing after two years of constant football. Or Perhaps Mepham has got a bit Bertie big bollox over playing for Wales, but no one is going to offer you an easier ride at another club. Perhaps we shall never know why, under Dean Smith you were a different team. perhaps he was a Nasty Geezer behind closed doors and therefore you played your hearts out for him or fear a visit from the Nasty Men, and possibly TF is just too nice a bloke to get you to do the things you were so good at earlier in the season. A bit like the teacher we can all name at our various schools that we knew how to con. BUT this could be my last season of supporting the Bees and I would prefer to watch a team trying to win instead of rolling over and dying at the first sign of trouble.
I have decided to fight for what time I have left , and would suggest that you as a collective should do the same for the people that come through the gates and help to pay your wages. We have a right to Lambast you at times if we feel you are not pulling your weight and yes we have favourites that can do no wrong. Coincidentely both me and my daughter, who has the task of supporting this team after I'm gone have the same favourite. NO names no pack drills. But we All have same same collective wish. To see this team achieve to their best potential be it under this Manager/coach or another. So Please Pull those Fingers Out and give us something to be proud of once more.

 

[sonofabee]

There was a post earlier on about players not giving a s**t because:
a) they were coming to the end of their contracts,
or b) likely to be off in the January window.
I'm sorry I don't have the energy to look back and find it I've been to sleep for a rest. but one thing is patently clear to those players. If you dont pull your fingers out of your collective backsides and start playing as though you really want those moves you have to do a certain amount of things.
Firstly you have to prove to prospective employers that you are worth taking a punt on, and secondly you need to show some pride in your performance.
I wasn't at Hull for health reasons. But going by the input on this board. It is either a massive collective loss of confidence or the players just don't care anymore. If it is the latter then no future employer is going to consider giving you a contract based on the performances over the past few months. and that runs from the Goalkeeper right through to the number 11 or whatever the highest shirt number is on the day. Yes you are ALL young, but you are doing a job that the majority of people on here would give their right arms for. ( except any Goalkeepers ) and probably for less money than you are getting paid. I can appreciate that injuries happen and that form can dip from time to time but for an entire team to go out of form all at the same time? sorry it doesn't happen. Maybe you do need an Ugly big Leader on the pitch to kick butts or offer words of encouragement, but at present One of you has to step up and try to be that person. Maybe Dalsgaard does need a break from playing after two years of constant football. Or Perhaps Mepham has got a bit Bertie big bollox over playing for Wales, but no one is going to offer you an easier ride at another club. Perhaps we shall never know why, under Dean Smith you were a different team. perhaps he was a Nasty Geezer behind closed doors and therefore you played your hearts out for him or fear a visit form the Nasty Men. and TF is just too nice a bloke to get you to do the things you were so good at earlier in the season. BUT this could be my last season of supporting the Bees and I would prefer to watch a team trying to win instead of rolling over and dying at the first sign of trouble. I have decided to fight for what time I have left , and would suggest that you as a collective should do the same for the people that come through the gates and help to pay your wages. We have a right to Lambast you at times if we feel you are not pulling your weight and yes we have favourites that can do no wrong. Coincidently both me and my daughter, who has the task of supporting this team after I'm gone have the same favourite. NO names no pack drills. But we All have same same collective wish. To see this team achieve to their best potential be it under this Manager/coach or another. So Please Pull those Fingers Out and give us something to be proud of once more.

Well said mate, they should pin this up in every players changing area

 

[BURFORD BEE]

There was a post earlier on about players not giving a s**t because:
a) they were coming to the end of their contracts,
or b) likely to be off in the January window.
I'm sorry I don't have the energy to look back and find it I've been to sleep for a rest. but one thing is patently clear to those players. If you dont pull your fingers out of your collective backsides and start playing as though you really want those moves you have to do a certain amount of things.
Firstly you have to prove to prospective employers that you are worth taking a punt on, and secondly you need to show some pride in your performance.
I wasn't at Hull for health reasons. But going by the input on this board. It is either a massive collective loss of confidence or the players just don't care anymore. If it is the latter then no future employer is going to consider giving you a contract based on the performances over the past few months. and that runs from the Goalkeeper right through to the number 11 or whatever the highest shirt number is on the day. Yes you are ALL young, but you are doing a job that the majority of people on here would give their right arms for. ( except any Goalkeepers ) and probably for less money than you are getting paid. I can appreciate that injuries happen and that form can dip from time to time but for an entire team to go out of form all at the same time? sorry it doesn't happen. Maybe you do need an Ugly big Leader on the pitch to kick butts or offer words of encouragement, but at present One of you has to step up and try to be that person. Maybe Dalsgaard does need a break from playing after two years of constant football. Or Perhaps Mepham has got a bit Bertie big bollox over playing for Wales, but no one is going to offer you an easier ride at another club. Perhaps we shall never know why, under Dean Smith you were a different team. perhaps he was a Nasty Geezer behind closed doors and therefore you played your hearts out for him or fear a visit from the Nasty Men, and possibly TF is just too nice a bloke to get you to do the things you were so good at earlier in the season. A bit like the teacher we can all name at our various schools that we knew how to con. BUT this could be my last season of supporting the Bees and I would prefer to watch a team trying to win instead of rolling over and dying at the first sign of trouble.
I have decided to fight for what time I have left , and would suggest that you as a collective should do the same for the people that come through the gates and help to pay your wages. We have a right to Lambast you at times if we feel you are not pulling your weight and yes we have favourites that can do no wrong. Coincidentely both me and my daughter, who has the task of supporting this team after I'm gone have the same favourite. NO names no pack drills. But we All have same same collective wish. To see this team achieve to their best potential be it under this Manager/coach or another. So Please Pull those Fingers Out and give us something to be proud of once more.

Respect and best wishes

 

[North London Bee]

Great words but don’t expect any of the players to read them.

 

[belvederebee]

There was a post earlier on about players not giving a s**t because:
a) they were coming to the end of their contracts,
or b) likely to be off in the January window.
I'm sorry I don't have the energy to look back and find it I've been to sleep for a rest. but one thing is patently clear to those players. If you dont pull your fingers out of your collective backsides and start playing as though you really want those moves you have to do a certain amount of things.
Firstly you have to prove to prospective employers that you are worth taking a punt on, and secondly you need to show some pride in your performance.
I wasn't at Hull for health reasons. But going by the input on this board. It is either a massive collective loss of confidence or the players just don't care anymore. If it is the latter then no future employer is going to consider giving you a contract based on the performances over the past few months. and that runs from the Goalkeeper right through to the number 11 or whatever the highest shirt number is on the day. Yes you are ALL young, but you are doing a job that the majority of people on here would give their right arms for. ( except any Goalkeepers ) and probably for less money than you are getting paid. I can appreciate that injuries happen and that form can dip from time to time but for an entire team to go out of form all at the same time? sorry it doesn't happen. Maybe you do need an Ugly big Leader on the pitch to kick butts or offer words of encouragement, but at present One of you has to step up and try to be that person. Maybe Dalsgaard does need a break from playing after two years of constant football. Or Perhaps Mepham has got a bit Bertie big bollox over playing for Wales, but no one is going to offer you an easier ride at another club. Perhaps we shall never know why, under Dean Smith you were a different team. perhaps he was a Nasty Geezer behind closed doors and therefore you played your hearts out for him or fear a visit from the Nasty Men, and possibly TF is just too nice a bloke to get you to do the things you were so good at earlier in the season. A bit like the teacher we can all name at our various schools that we knew how to con. BUT this could be my last season of supporting the Bees and I would prefer to watch a team trying to win instead of rolling over and dying at the first sign of trouble.
I have decided to fight for what time I have left , and would suggest that you as a collective should do the same for the people that come through the gates and help to pay your wages. We have a right to Lambast you at times if we feel you are not pulling your weight and yes we have favourites that can do no wrong. Coincidentely both me and my daughter, who has the task of supporting this team after I'm gone have the same favourite. NO names no pack drills. But we All have same same collective wish. To see this team achieve to their best potential be it under this Manager/coach or another. So Please Pull those Fingers Out and give us something to be proud of once more.

Well said. Please repeat in dressing room pre Bolton.

 

[YorkBee]

Well said. Please repeat in dressing room pre Bolton.

I wish i could

 

[mhead bee]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

Have you applied for the apprentice yet?

My uneducated slightly G and T opinion is that nobody listens to your advice. I have been advising Teressa May for 2 years but she keeps on ignoring me.

 

[Jezybee]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

Likelihood the advice was offered rather than requested?...

 

[HertfordBee]

Have you applied for the apprentice yet?

My uneducated slightly G and T opinion is that nobody listens to your advice. I have been advising Teressa May for 2 years but she keeps on ignoring me.

That’s because you’re spelling her name wrong. She’s probably offended.

 

[YorkBee]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

Dont you just hate a smart arse? just a pity Lord Sugar said "Your Fired" Did you Lump on Hull to win? personally I have never backed the bees to lose. it is not morally right

 

[JANORAK]

Dont you just hate a smart arse? just a pity Lord Sugar said "Your Fired" Did you Lump on Hull to win? personally I have never backed the bees to lose. it is not morally right

Unfortunately, people are lumping on us to lose every week now, and making money at the Bees discomfort. For the last 2 Saturdays we’ve featured as certs to be beaten in Metro’s accumulator.

 

[Doovster]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

Wow, look at you. Are you related to King John by chance? . He's a high flyer too.

You sound like you must have been more successful in life than the corner shop MB operates. Perhaps you could put your money where your advice is and take over?

 

[walmerbee]

I am a little more shrewd than to 'invest' in a football club.

 

[Silly Hat]

Sorry, my advice has been to people who have companies which make MB look like a corner shop owner. Perhaps today's result adds to my advice and I was completely right that we would lose today!

So.... you provide objective, informed, professional advice to individuals who own a portfolio of companies worth many millions of pounds?

Sorry. I simply don’t believe you.

I’m calling you a liar.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

I am a little more shrewd than to 'invest' in a football club.

And modest to boot!

 

[grutter]

And modest to boot!

To be fair, 107 posts in 7 years indicates this isn't a poster with an agenda. I think he's been a bit unfairly rounded upon when there are more important things to get hot under the collar about.

 

[JCMcBee]

To be fair, 107 posts in 7 years indicates this isn't a poster with an agenda. I think he's been a bit unfairly rounded upon when there are more important things to get hot under the collar about.

...you set yourself up as a target....expect and accept getting shot at...not disimilar to TF.

 

[gbems92]

Unfortunately, people are lumping on us to lose every week now, and making money at the Bees discomfort. For the last 2 Saturdays we’ve featured as certs to be beaten in Metro’s accumulator.

Yet we were still favourites to win away from home

 

[Doovster]

To be fair, 107 posts in 7 years indicates this isn't a poster with an agenda. I think he's been a bit unfairly rounded upon when there are more important things to get hot under the collar about.

I agree, but anyone that comes across as bragging, intentionally or not, is always going to get it, Xmas or not lol

 

[Bizzy Bee]

lol Josh "the crusher" mceachran has a good ring to it

More like Josh "Glass Ankles" McCeachran!

 

[magicbees]

Agreed. And that’s been exacerbated by an imbalance in the squad as well. They’ve not got much wrong but leaving us with a small squad lacking any particular central midfield steel, height, pace or maybe even goals, plus no genuine second striker was a distinct oversight.

The Dofs have to take a lot of the blame, not only did they leave us with this paper thin squad, they also made the worst management appointment of my time following the Bees. Don't compare any of previous managers as they had no money and no squad. We were 6th when he took over. Loss all faith in the management of this club, the silence speak volumes for what they think. What are they waiting for to realise he's not the answer, relegation to League One.

 

[longdistancebee]

The Dofs have to take a lot of the blame, not only did they leave us with this paper thin squad, they also made the worst management appointment of my time following the Bees. Don't compare any of previous managers as they had no money and no squad. We were 6th when he took over. Loss all faith in the management of this club, the silence speak volumes for what they think. What are they waiting for to realise he's not the answer, relegation to League One.

I am not normally given to baying for the manager's head after a couple of bad results, nor chanting Sack the Board, Sack the Board (and Sack the DoFs doesn't have the same ring to it), but I agree with magic - we seem to have set ourselves out for this season based on hope and optimism rather than tangible assets.

Further, as has been said on many occasions, this team has gone from 6th to 19th under TF. Even with some weak links, that is really poor. Sorry, but he has to go. Maybe this is not a promotion-winning side as we all hoped back in August, but it is certainly better than where we are right now.

 

[readingbee]

I am not normally given to baying for the manager's head after a couple of bad results, nor chanting Sack the Board, Sack the Board (and Sack the DoFs doesn't have the same ring to it), but I agree with magic - we seem to have set ourselves out for this season based on hope and optimism rather than tangible assets.

Further, as has been said on many occasions, this team has gone from 6th to 19th under TF. Even with some weak links, that is really poor. Sorry, but he has to go. Maybe this is not a promotion-winning side as we all hoped back in August, but it is certainly better than where we are right now.

Agree. A sad state of affairs. I can’t see how he can be kept on if we lose at home Sat to Bolton. No disrespect to them but their a team in turmoil virtually guaranteed to go down.

 

[shouldbee]

Agree. A sad state of affairs. I can’t see how he can be kept on if we lose at home Sat to Bolton. No disrespect to them but their a team in turmoil virtually guaranteed to go down.

Bolton still have some good players and won't be a pushover. They will be fighting for their lives, they have a good manager AND Clayton Donaldson !!

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

As I see it earlier in the season teams were wary of our strike force and tended to sit deeper allowing us to play out, they have now realised that the better option is to press our defenders early and force
them into errors, this is now not working for us opposition teams have changed their approach but we keep carrying on making the same mistakes, we need to adapt to this.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

The Dofs have to take a lot of the blame, not only did they leave us with this paper thin squad, they also made the worst management appointment of my time following the Bees. Don't compare any of previous managers as they had no money and no squad. We were 6th when he took over. Loss all faith in the management of this club, the silence speak volumes for what they think. What are they waiting for to realise he's not the answer, relegation to League One.

I am not normally given to baying for the manager's head after a couple of bad results, nor chanting Sack the Board, Sack the Board (and Sack the DoFs doesn't have the same ring to it), but I agree with magic - we seem to have set ourselves out for this season based on hope and optimism rather than tangible assets.

Further, as has been said on many occasions, this team has gone from 6th to 19th under TF. Even with some weak links, that is really poor. Sorry, but he has to go. Maybe this is not a promotion-winning side as we all hoped back in August, but it is certainly better than where we are right now.

Beginning of the season we were all saying once people come back in "how are we going to fit them all in and how is Smith going to keep them happy". Its funny what a bad run does to peoples thought process. Yes we are light up top but bar 3 games thats not been an issue.

Injuries have been a big factor this season.