Thomas Frank

[IslandBee]

Beginning of the season we were all saying once people come back in "how are we going to fit them all in and how is Smith going to keep them happy". Its funny what a bad run does to peoples thought process. Yes we are light up top but bar 3 games thats not been an issue.

Injuries have been a big factor this season.

Yep, and the law of averages says that if you keep saying we are sh*t for long enough, eventually you are likely to be right.

 

[Gee Bee]

Beginning of the season we were all saying once people come back in "how are we going to fit them all in and how is Smith going to keep them happy". Its funny what a bad run does to peoples thought process. Yes we are light up top but bar 3 games thats not been an issue.

Injuries have been a big factor this season.

Schoolboy defending has been an issue ALL season even when were 2nd in league we always conceded some sh*t goals. It’s just now taken to batches of sh*t goals conceded meaning we need to score 3 just to hope to get something

 

[beebopalula]

TBH what worries me most is how vulnerable we look because we don't track runners effectively either centrally or on the flanks. That is down to effort.

 

[beetee]

TBH what worries me most is how vulnerable we look because we don't track runners effectively either centrally or on the flanks. That is down to effort.

Agree with this 100%
TF alluded to this in winning our 1 on 1 battles

 

[red_and_white]

Feel for Thomas Frank. Players are getting off lightly because they’re young. A lot of them have had very basic lapses in concentration which is unacceptable at this level and doesn’t do their ability justice.

A few of them really are not doing their jobs properly and Thomas Frank has done so well not blaming any of them, but has taken all the flak. In my opinion he’s practicing what he preaches about sticking together as a team. Would love for it to work out for him

 

[readingbee]

Feel for Thomas Frank. Players are getting off lightly because they’re young. A lot of them have had very basic lapses in concentration which is unacceptable at this level and doesn’t do their ability justice.

A few of them really are not doing their jobs properly and Thomas Frank has done so well not blaming any of them, but has taken all the flak. In my opinion he’s practicing what he preaches about sticking together as a team. Would love for it to work out for him

I think or hope every one hopes he’ll succeed. However as has been said by many the players aren’t responding to him, or don’t seem to be. Can you imaging them acting like this with Martin Allen or even Warburton or even recently Smith.

 

[HertfordBee]

TBH what worries me most is how vulnerable we look because we don't track runners effectively either centrally or on the flanks. That is down to effort.

The amount of effort put in by Watkins and Canos combined this season has been a disgrace.

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

It grated tonight when Wilson (Derby) was reviewing his goals this year and said the easiest was v Brentford AAARGH!

 

[North London Bee]

That was our debacle from our corner wasn’t it?

 

[BaildonBee]

It grated tonight when Wilson (Derby) was reviewing his goals this year and said the easiest was v Brentford AAARGH!

Expect Benik Afobe of Stoke would say the same thing. We have conceded some absolute howlers this season.

 

[liverbee]

I think or hope every one hopes he’ll succeed. However as has been said by many the players aren’t responding to him, or don’t seem to be. Can you imaging them acting like this with Martin Allen or even Warburton or even recently Smith.

I can. It is something deeper.

 

[hkram]

The amount of effort put in by Watkins and Canos combined this season has been a disgrace.

I always think that, contrary to the popular opinion, Canos presses really well.

 

[tipsey]

Well if Frank's staying the the club at least should get shot of the the assistant head coach who Frank said is looking after the defence and the goalkeeping coach who has made Bentley go from one of the best goalkeepers to one of the worst

 

[Brentford 4 Life]

Expect Benik Afobe of Stoke would say the same thing. We have conceded some absolute howlers this season.

A montage of goals conceded this season would be bloody torture lol

 

[Norfolk Bee]

Comedy for other teams. Torture for us Bees!

 

[HertfordBee]

I always think that, contrary to the popular opinion, Canos presses really well.

I think he flatters to deceive. He bursts forward, looks to close someone down and when the ball is gone he stands with his hands on his hips waiting for the next time, whilst play goes on behind him.

Having said that Watkins doesn't even do the first bit.

Frank or someone else in charge, the coach has a real problem there.

 

[chizbee]

Jose is free now....... I'll get me coat!

 

[nick logan]

That was our debacle from our corner wasn’t it?

yep , 1-0 up , all over them then gave away a goal from our corner

 

[TadB]

I can. It is something deeper.

"Something Deeper"? Could you explain what that could be?

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

I think problem is a lightweight midfield who don't have the pace or tackling ability and I said so some time ago problem is I don't
think we have any players to change this (other than possibly Da Silva)

 

[shouldbee]

I think problem is a lightweight midfield who don't have the pace or tackling ability and I said so some time ago problem is I don't
think we have any players to change this (other than possibly Da Silva)

There seems to be a great deal of expectancy of an very young player who's only experience in the team has been about 20 mins ?

 

[Beezy]

Let's see if we get a new coach appointed this coming week. I expect it to happen.

Mourinho..?

 

[Beezy]

Harry & Jose co-managers anyone...?

 

[Bigbee]

There seems to be a great deal of expectancy of an very young player who's only experience in the team has been about 20 mins ?

Only that Arsenal wanted to keep him and the majority of our team have been sh it and we are plummeting faster than the fastest plummeting thing in the World

 

[ruislip bee]

Harry & Jose co-managers anyone...?

Well that's the complete football budget gone then.

 

[longdistancebee]

Well that's the complete football budget gone then.

Not to mention the booze cupboard......

 

[Brentford Bob]

The amount of effort put in by Watkins and Canos combined this season has been a disgrace.

Unfair on Sergi. His end product has been poor but you can rarely question his effort.

 

[Doovster]

Unfair on Sergi. His end product has been poor but you can rarely question his effort.

I think his effort is fine, I think his fitness is questionable and let's him down.

 

[IDontBeeLieveIt]

Unfair on Sergi. His end product has been poor but you can rarely question his effort.

I think his effort is fine, I think his fitness is questionable and let's him down.

In some ways I'm with you two....but I'd phrase his contribution as lacking more in terms of being more of a rounded player. Ie, could do more to make runs and drag players away for others to run into, on the attacking side, and on the defensive side could do more to tuck back in and give his full back cover when we don't have the ball (could level the same criticism at others to varying degrees too).
When he's got the ball or making runs for someone to pass to him then he's generally endlessly enthusiastic like a puppy.

 

[TadB]

Only that Arsenal wanted to keep him and the majority of our team have been sh it and we are plummeting faster than the fastest plummeting thing in the World

Did Arsenal want to keep him? They made him an offer of a contract, but the purpose of that being to ensure that they would receive compensation. That is how the system works. This does not mean I do not think he could do a job for us. He looked useful in his 20 minutes to date.

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

Did Arsenal want to keep him? They made him an offer of a contract, but the purpose of that being to ensure that they would receive compensation. That is how the system works. This does not mean I do not think he could do a job for us. He looked useful in his 20 minutes to date.

I think Wenger suggested he’d be the next player to make the step up to the first team and saw him featuring this year so he was obviously very highly rated.

 

[Kettering Bee]

I think Wenger suggested he’d be the next player to make the step up to the first team and saw him featuring this year so he was obviously very highly rated.

Correct.

 

[hughbee]

I’ve only seen away games this season, Blackburn, Ipswich, Norwich and Arsenal. Apart from one half against Arsenal and the first period against Norwich we’ve been quite poor. We were unlucky to lose Kano at Norwich when he was playing really well and was probably taken out deliberately. Having seen the visible effect scoring against us had on Norwich’s confidence at their place it’s obvious that we’re lacking confidence and that we’ve not had a good run to build that this season

Would TF going this early really solve this? We need to score first in a game and build from there.

 

[Doovster]

I’ve only seen away games this season, Blackburn, Ipswich, Norwich and Arsenal. Apart from one half against Arsenal and the first period against Norwich we’ve been quite poor. We were unlucky to lose Kano at Norwich when he was playing really well and was probably taken out deliberately. Having seen the visible effect scoring against us had on Norwich’s confidence at their place it’s obvious that we’re lacking confidence and that we’ve not had a good run to build that this season

Would TF going this early really solve this? We need to score first in a game and build from there.

Like Sheff Utd or QPR you mean?

 

[TadB]

I think Wenger suggested he’d be the next player to make the step up to the first team and saw him featuring this year so he was obviously very highly rated.

Reported? By whom? Lets be honest if at 21 he is of Champions League Standard would he have signed for little old Brentford. I believe we would have been crushed in the rush.

 

[hughbee]

Like Sheff Utd or QPR you mean?

We didn’t build from there. I think confidence is the key not getting rid of TF.

 

[sonofabee]

Unfair on Sergi. His end product has been poor but you can rarely question his effort.

Agree, headless chicken maybe but never question his commitment.

 

[WarrenBee]

Agree, headless chicken maybe but never question his commitment.

Nail on head, I love Sergi, but I really wish he would get his head up when he's got the ball and play a pass rather than running down blind alleys!

 

[jbee]

Reported? By whom? Lets be honest if at 21 he is of Champions League Standard would he have signed for little old Brentford. I believe we would have been crushed in the rush.

We go on one bad run and all of a sudden everyone is running down our club. This is a great place to play if you are a young, talented, technical footballer who needs minutes. We have good staff and a proven record. A very sensible move by Josh to come here.

 

[banburybee]

We go on one bad run and all of a sudden everyone is running down our club. This is a great place to play if you are a young, talented, technical footballer who needs minutes. We have good staff and a proven record. A very sensible move by Josh to come here.

At last something balanced. Thanks. We have not become a sh*t club in 2/3 months. Our players are not rubbish. Something has gone awry but it will be corrected

 

[TadB]

We go on one bad run and all of a sudden everyone is running down our club. This is a great place to play if you are a young, talented, technical footballer who needs minutes. We have good staff and a proven record. A very sensible move by Josh to come here.

 

[nick logan]

At last something balanced. Thanks. We have not become a sh*t club in 2/3 months. Our players are not rubbish. Something has gone awry but it will be corrected

Its utter madness on here , 2 months ago we have our best ever squad now we are ***** and going down :lol:

 

[Bill Benn]

Its utter madness on here , 2 months ago we have our best ever squad now we are ***** and going down :lol:

The only madness is you only realised now about the madness on here.��

 

[rebus]

Its utter madness on here , 2 months ago we have our best ever squad now we are ***** and going down :lol:

 

[wanderer paul]

Its utter madness on here , 2 months ago we have our best ever squad now we are ***** and going down :lol:

Like an F1 car, it runs beautifully if all the cogs within the engine is ticking over perfectly. However, one misfire and things start to go awry and the car starts failing.
The same here. We’ve lost two important pieces, DS and RR, from the engine. The other parts are misfiring until we can replace those two important pieces. So far, the replacements - coach wise - aren’t matching up to the level we’ve seen over the last few years. You’re bound to get disgruntled supporters. None of us want to see the Club drop down a division.
MB and the DoFs need to find someone ASAP that can perform and coach at the right level and whom the squad can follow and play for.
For whatever reason, the last 10 games have been tough, especially the last few. I’ve said it before, the players need to step up and take responsibility, no matter how young and inexperienced they are. TF should be the right man but, for some reason, it just isn’t ticking properly.......

 

[nick logan]

The only madness is you only realised now about the madness on here.��

i have known for years mate , its just gone absurd.

 

[nick logan]

Like an F1 car, it runs beautifully if all the cogs within the engine is ticking over perfectly. However, one misfire and things start to go awry and the car starts failing.
The same here. We’ve lost two important pieces, DS and RR, from the engine. The other parts are misfiring until we can replace those two important pieces. So far, the replacements - coach wise - aren’t matching up to the level we’ve seen over the last few years. You’re bound to get disgruntled supporters. None of us want to see the Club drop down a division.
MB and the DoFs need to find someone ASAP that can perform and coach at the right level and whom the squad can follow and play for.
For whatever reason, the last 10 games have been tough, especially the last few. I’ve said it before, the players need to step up and take responsibility, no matter how young and inexperienced they are. TF should be the right man but, for some reason, it just isn’t ticking properly.......

MB and the DOFs will get it sorted like they always do imho.

 

[banburybee]

When Tommy Docherty has his young Man United side that played very high tempo football he described it like swinging a bucket of water so fast that nothing was spilt - a great trick to watch he said but whenever it goes wrong it makes a hell of a mess

 

[nick logan]

When Tommy Docherty has his young Man United side that played very high tempo football he described it like swinging a bucket of water so fast that nothing was spilt - a great trick to watch he said but whenever it goes wrong it makes a hell of a mess

haha i like that

 

[TadB]

We go on one bad run and all of a sudden everyone is running down our club. This is a great place to play if you are a young, talented, technical footballer who needs minutes. We have good staff and a proven record. A very sensible move by Josh to come here.

"Everyone is running our club dow"! If you read my post correctly it quite clear that I was not running the club down. What I was pointing out was that Josh Dasilva may be a good player, and I think he will do well for us, but in my opinion if he was never a serious contender for Arsenal First Team this season. If that had been the case then he is considered to be a Premier League Top Six player, and if that had been the case there would have been many clubs in front of us in the queue for him. You will never find a post where I have run down the club.