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longdistancebee said:
Yes, just like Klopp last season who was really quite sour and condescending in his post-match presser. What right did Brentford have to hold his expensive bunch of prima donnas to a draw? We should know our place and politely bend over and get a**e-f****d by these "big clubs".
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No he wasn’t. He was very complimentary.
 

Thomas Frank

longdistancebee said:
Well that is your interpretation, I thought he was condescending. We shall have to differ!
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He thought we played his team in exactly the right way and admired Raya’s distribution. The look he and TF exchanged near the end of the game spoke volumes of their mutual admiration too.
 

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longdistancebee said:
Actually tivadvir you are sort of right, but Klopp was very sour about Raya - calling him our no. 10, and inferring that we were just a long-ball team. And yes, Tuchel was a bit of a **** too, and from Sunday's behaviour, is continuing in that vein!
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TBH if Conte had shouted FO at our technical area twice during a game against Spuds I'd hope Thomas would've had a word like Tuchel did at the end of that game.
 

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Beecareful said:
Lots of talk about C E moving on, and murmurs about our best players especially Henry and Raya.

But what if a top six 'giant' comes calling for TF ?

It's possible although more likely in a year.

Liverpool, Chelsea and Man City are all coached but bright, articulate guys - and T F is both.
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No chance of Thomas going anywhere.
 

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TheHairdresser said:
TBH if Conte had shouted FO at our technical area twice during a game against Spuds I'd hope Thomas would've had a word like Tuchel did at the end of that game.
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Did he? Ha! I did not see that bit. I knew there was a ruck obviously, but did not know what actually prompted it. Well, the games against both Spurs and Chelsea will be tasty then!
 

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Came across brilliantly in that interview I thought,not sure what poster said it but all Jim whites interviews in that section are pre recorded normally that same morning, Jordon gets it and does do his research,Sinclair not so much Jordon stays quiet when he spouts his rubbish he must be embarrassed
Thomas and us are a perfect fit we just get each other be very difficult to replace with someone who gets us as well as he does then on the flip side I’m not sure he’d fit into other clubs systems as I’m not sure there’s any clubs are similar to us and our way of working

get that 15 year contract out benham! ?
 

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North London Bee said:
He thought we played his team in exactly the right way and admired Raya’s distribution. The look he and TF exchanged near the end of the game spoke volumes of their mutual admiration too.
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100% agree but you would also expect Klopp or any of the "Top 4 or 6" to be a bit hacked off that they dropped points against a club with a first team weekly wage bill that would barely cover their match day lunch bill.
 

Thomas Frank

Ghost said:
I think Thomas knows perhaps more so than anyone where his bread is buttered (with Lurpak of course)
I can only see eventually him going to a TOP team and I mean top 15-20 clubs in the world... or a national team job.
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I could definitely see him being very interested in taking the Denmark job when Hjulmand leaves. He has often talked about the sacrificed his family has made for his career and his regret for missing out on alot of things. He made sure to be in Denmark for his daughters graduation and said that nothing would have stopped him from going.

A national team manager job would give a much better work/life balance. I'm not sure if he would want top club job.

But the financial side and financial security for life can entice most ofcourse. I think he knows how easy it is to get fired after a bad run. He lost his first 8 at Brentford I believe.

He would get fired at a big club for the same.

No fan group will adore him like we do.
 

Thomas Frank

I don’t recall having read anything about this before although I dare say it’s been discussed on here at some point but what happened with this…? (The end of his spell at Brøndy that is)

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BEEcool said:
I don’t recall having read anything about this before although I dare say it’s been discussed on here at some point but what happened with this…? (The end of his spell at Brøndy that is)

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It is an old story.

Back in March 2016 TF resigned from Brøndby.

This was a consequence of a difficult relationship to Jan Bech Andersen, the club's major shareholder and chairman of the board.

Jan had (for years) been a diligent debater on the club's fan forum "Sydsiden Online", where he (by using his son's profile, Oscar) attacked and criticized TF and others. Due to this, TF resigned.

There is a video of TF resigning here:

Afsløring: Brøndby-ejer sviner Frank og Rud under falskt navn
 

Thomas Frank

My main concern about TF looking elsewhere, is that he has such clear confidence in his own ability. Look for example, at his insistence on the benefits of the 5 sub rule. He obviously thinks that he can use it to better effect than his opposite number to influence a game. And I reckon he's right!!
I can imagine him thinking/wanting to prove this on a more regular basis, against the so-called best coaches in the world. Which would require him to compete on an at least "more equal" playing field. I.e. Having better quality players at his disposal.....
 

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DanishPlastic said:
I could definitely see him being very interested in taking the Denmark job when Hjulmand leaves. He has often talked about the sacrificed his family has made for his career and his regret for missing out on alot of things. He made sure to be in Denmark for his daughters graduation and said that nothing would have stopped him from going.

A national team manager job would give a much better work/life balance. I'm not sure if he would want top club job.

But the financial side and financial security for life can entice most ofcourse. I think he knows how easy it is to get fired after a bad run. He lost his first 8 at Brentford I believe.

He would get fired at a big club for the same.

No fan group will adore him like we do.
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Who knows? He’s still young for a manager and could have 15-20 or more years of work ahead if he wants it. If we keep developing and progressing he could stay with us and get the honours a big club might demand as a right. Managing Denmark won’t happen while Hjulmand is performing and they have a bit of a golden generation now. Hjulmand is also young for a national manager. Taking over soon would depend on either failure or Hjulmand bowing out after winning the World Cup and neither would make being his successor attractive. Building the next generation in a few years might be better.
 

Thomas Frank

badgerbee said:
My main concern about TF looking elsewhere, is that he has such clear confidence in his own ability. Look for example, at his insistence on the benefits of the 5 sub rule. He obviously thinks that he can use it to better effect than his opposite number to influence a game. And I reckon he's right!!
I can imagine him thinking/wanting to prove this on a more regular basis, against the so-called best coaches in the world. Which would require him to compete on an at least "more equal" playing field. I.e. Having better quality players at his disposal.....
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Don't disagree Badger but it has to be said he has a fair few quality players at his disposal right now with a couple more about to come back from injury.
 

Thomas Frank

ruislip bee said:
Don't disagree Badger but it has to be said he has a fair few quality players at his disposal right now with a couple more about to come back from injury.
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Absolutely. ?
There were (rightly IMHO) calls for TF to be in the frame for Manager of the season last year, based on what he achieved, pound for pound, against the likes of Pep, Klopp, Tuchel, Conte etc. rather than just basing the decision on who manages the team which finishes highest......
I just wonder if TF would relish the opportunity to back himself, and prove his ability with equal resources at his disposal......
 

Thomas Frank

Frank was great but that TalkSport feature was utter garbage.

Simon Jordan talking about how Mark Devlin helped recruit good players after Matthew Benham bought the club from Ron Noades.

And Sinclair saying he was worried that we got rid of our U18s team because of the “communiteh benefits” even though we always had a dedicated U18 team run by our award-winning community sports trust.

They once again parroted the old “no Eriksen to save them this year” line as well.

TalkSport has its place but the opinion pieces are uninformed and purely there to grab attention.
 

Thomas Frank

longdistancebee said:
Actually tivadvir you are sort of right, but Klopp was very sour about Raya - calling him our no. 10, and inferring that we were just a long-ball team. And yes, Tuchel was a bit of a **** too, and from Sunday's behaviour, is continuing in that vein!
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He was complimenting him for his pin point passing not putting him the team down at all.
 

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Alex said:
He was complimenting him for his pin point passing not putting him the team down at all.
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It was complimentary of Raya but if you read the comments back he was effectively saying we were using our goalkeeper as our creative outlet and just “playing it long to the big man” to good effect.

Which did a disservice to the extent of our technical and tactical abilities, IMO.
 

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BFC1997 said:
It was complimentary of Raya but if you read the comments back he was effectively saying we were using our goalkeeper as our creative outlet and just “playing it long to the big man” to good effect.

Which did a disservice to the extent of our technical and tactical abilities, IMO.
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I think he said he was surprised at our directness.

Which you can take as derogatory or that he was genuinely surprised.

As Thomas said, why would we play our normal pressing game against the best exponents against it in the world.
 

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StevieSteve said:
I think he said he was surprised at our directness.

Which you can take as derogatory or that he was genuinely surprised.

As Thomas said, why would we play our normal pressing game against the best exponents against it in the world.
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Think after Brighton used
similar tactics against Man U, the football establishment finally got it.... That direct football, used intelligently
has its place.
 

Thomas Frank

StevieSteve said:
I think he said he was surprised at our directness.

Which you can take as derogatory or that he was genuinely surprised.

As Thomas said, why would we play our normal pressing game against the best exponents against it in the world.
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Vieira did a more extreme version of this yesterday. It’s not rocket science to go longer against teams that can execute a high press. Man U showed what happens if you try to play out from the back against one and get it wrong. But unless you have players who can place a long pass accurately to a forward it just becomes aimless hoofing which those teams’ CBs can cut out and return quickly into attack.
 

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Newport Pagnell Bee said:
Did nobody listen to what he actually said today??? FFS...it's like talksport on here sometimes. He's going nowhere for the forseeable.
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He is not actually interested in other jobs which is this day and age is fairly unique.
I love the way he said he was privileged to be at Brentford FC and that was a wow moment for me.
We are privileged to have Thomas Frank at our club.
I have said before he has a job for as long as he wants it for.
 

Thomas Frank

Chefbech said:
It is an old story.

Back in March 2016 TF resigned from Brøndby.

This was a consequence of a difficult relationship to Jan Bech Andersen, the club's major shareholder and chairman of the board.

Jan had (for years) been a diligent debater on the club's fan forum "Sydsiden Online", where he (by using his son's profile, Oscar) attacked and criticized TF and others. Due to this, TF resigned.

There is a video of TF resigning here:

Afsløring: Brøndby-ejer sviner Frank og Rud under falskt navn
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I always felt that he was treated horrible at Brøndby. Truth is, they didn't buy in to what he wanted to do with the club. The whole Oscar-thing was truely bonkers.
 

Thomas Frank

V mixed day for Thomas. Set up all wrong at the start, bit slow changing things, then genius to get us back into it and then didn't seem sure whether to stick or twist and did neither.. Imagine he'll be very frustrated like the rest of us but hope we won't start with that formation again away from home until we've got better options at CB..
 

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Mr Cynical said:
V mixed day for Thomas. Set up all wrong at the start, bit slow changing things, then genius to get us back into it and then didn't seem sure whether to stick or twist and did neither.. Imagine he'll be very frustrated like the rest of us but hope we won't start with that formation again away from home until we've got better options at CB..
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Jensen so much better in the formation at Man U ?
 

Thomas Frank

Not really his fault we were so bad defensively in the first half and I wouldn't necessarily set up the same against man utd and Fulham..
 

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hanworthbee said:
Not really his fault we were so bad defensively in the first half and I wouldn't necessarily set up the same against man utd and Fulham..
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I agree can't actually fault the goals on the formation as they came from set pieces but the whole first half performance dreadful. Played much better second half particularly after the formation change.
 

Thomas Frank

I can understand Pontus and Mee sitting deep as they can get caught for pace but you then widen the area of play so to expect three midfielders, two of whom are not overly defensive, to compete in an area that Fulham are flooding is a problem. It is more annoying that having addressed this and got back into it, two further substitutions disrupted us. Of course, there may have been other issues at play in these substitutions like injuries etc but they didn't work for us. Our coaching staff's analysis of this game would be revealing.
 

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You win some, you lose some. TF got it wrong today in my opinion. Again, rare occasion.

Tbf, it's not his fault Mbemo was marking Mitrovic and not Mee, Janson or Janelt..

I don't like Janelt going in as as centre back. Not one bit, but needs must right now I suppose
 
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brentfordfc4ever said:
You win some, you lose some. TF got it wrong today in my opinion. Again, rare occasion.

Tbf, it's not his fault Mbemo was marking Mitrovic and not Mee, Janson or Janelt..

I don't like Janelt going in as as centre back. Not one but, but needs must right now I suppose
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I could understand marking Tony Craig at corners as he was very prone to an og but why should Bryan mark any of those three?
 

Thomas Frank

Got it wrong yesterday.

Changed it in the second half but what was he thinking with those last two subs, killed all our control and shape.
 

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Isleworth_Bee said:
Got it wrong yesterday.

Changed it in the second half but what was he thinking with those last two subs, killed all our control and shape.
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I agree . Hopefully we learn . We need detailed plans against whoever we are playing. In the last 2 matches you could see the most probable result in the first 2 minutes of the game based upon the formation and selected players.
 

Thomas Frank

The 4-3-3 we started with wasn’t ideal but it’s partly a reflection of the injuries we have at CB, rather than purely a failing of TF’s tactical set up.

Had we played Roerslev in a back three, for example, I’m certain that Mitrovic would have completely dominated him in the air, and then Wissa wouldn’t have been on the pitch to set up the equaliser.
 
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