Warbs Programme Notes v Bolton
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NorthamptonBee
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I'm fed up at reading total bullsh!t on here, at least post with a hint of reality in future.
Pauly Paul
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Saw on Twitter today a Daily Mirror report stating that MB offered a bonus pot of £15m to the squad at the start of the season if they got promoted. Caveat is they had to play 40 games to qualify for the bonus. Does this news add something to the "off the field" harmony? I imagine if A N Others came in it could stop some getting the magic 40 number.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brentford-players-set-pocket-15million-5545468
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brentford-players-set-pocket-15million-5545468
Voice from the Braemar
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I'm fed up at reading total bullsh!t on here, at least post with a hint of reality in future.
youre in reading already ?? good work advance party...I expect total control of the Friar Street pubs area by Wednesday
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Clearly the detail has been leaked from inside the club but as we decided yesterday that this is a 'good leak'.....
: then it's okay and presumably there won't be an investigation.The way I read the report is that the 'magic forty' number is provided as an example and not a minimum requirement. You have interpreted the report as stating that a player who makes forty games gets £700,000 and someone on thirty nine gets 'zip'.
I don't believe it.
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"top flight for first time in their history"...
More sh*t tabloid journalism.
More sh*t tabloid journalism.
jlove
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But it's in the Mirror, so it must be the truth, just like so much of this thread!
Leonardo
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It would have been interesting to know whether Montell Moore might have had some game time had he been a good boy and not have to be long boated off to Denmark.
wanderer paul
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There's already a thread on this posted on Saturday IIrC.
https://griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=116233&p=2600593#post2600593
mhead bee
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I have been on this chat room since its inception around 15-16 years ago and there are certain individuals who you know are worth believing when they say something. Don't ask me why but over the years I have learned who is full of sh*t, who is speculating and who will most likely have real access to the truth. In this case I am fairly sure the MW refusing to bring players in story is coming from those that may be trusted, however if MW is denying this do we really know what happened of is it just hearsay and conjecture?
NorthamptonBee
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Can we have lists of who is in which camp as I too have these thoughts and would like to compare?
mhead bee
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What I didn't believe is Pauly Paul's conclusion that a player had to make a minimum of forty appearances to participate in the promotion bonus scheme. If that were so and if we'd gone up this season then by my reckoning only Button, Douglas, Odubajo, Pritchard, Bidwell and Gray would qualify which means they'd get £2.5m each and the rest nothing.
I am quite sure that there is a substantial promotion bonus built into the contracts and also a very decent bonus for simply staying in the Championship and avoiding relegation.
aawharris
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hanworthbee
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they did ok the last ten years and with 25000 home attendances I'd say they are completely sustainable
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Any team that gets into the Premiership is sustainable, even if their ground only holds 3 people.
mhead bee
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Maybe he should have played him when we were desperate for a goal....just an idea.
mhead bee
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I reckon he would be gutted, furious and inconsolable....so much so in fact he may decide to sack the manager....of course that won't happen though.
mhead bee
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OK, so why does MB even have a plan to make us a sustainable premiership club, why not just throw millions at it, get us up and we can be a sustainable premiership club forever. In fact, why is it 3 clubs come down each season...that seems a tad unfair?
mhead bee
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You are top of my "I believe what they say" list NB.
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I now know KB and mk1965 are in the same camp. :grey:
NorthamptonBee
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Markybee
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I think I probably need a month (or longer) in Boot Camp. Hope this helps.
Markybee
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lol I too had visions of GP200's fave saying just before you wrote that 'nana :laugh:
DidntYouUsedToBee
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Looking at this old interview http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/brentford-owner-matthew-benham-every-championship-club-wants-to-get-into-the-premier-league-and-we-are-no-different-9336176.html
“Every club in the Championship would like to get to the Premier League at some point, so we are no different. But we are not going to put a timeframe on it. At some point we are going to try to make a push for it... in x years. I don’t want to say publicly. But yes it is achievable within a few years.”
“Every club in the Championship would like to get to the Premier League at some point, so we are no different. But we are not going to put a timeframe on it. At some point we are going to try to make a push for it... in x years. I don’t want to say publicly. But yes it is achievable within a few years.”
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Some people have been so beaten down by the our years of misery that they are willing to settle with a good season in the Championship. I don't think you're going to have a comfortable ride with MB with that thinking.
We blew a golden chance when it presented itself. It will be a stronger league I'm sure next season and people know about us now and we're not little Brentford.
We blew a golden chance when it presented itself. It will be a stronger league I'm sure next season and people know about us now and we're not little Brentford.
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I don't buy that this Championship is a 'bad year'. We'd have walked into the play-offs on the same points total most years.
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Not saying it was weak, rather I think it will stronger still next season.
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Not sure why it would be stronger?
Bristol City won L1 at a cantor but don't think they're top half level
Rest of League 1 imo was sub standard this season, non of the other 2 coming up are as good as we or Wolves were last season
QPR could come down and have a points deduction.
Burnley losing their top players
Whoever comes down, it's shown every year how hard it is to be in the promo mix.
I don't fear anyone next season
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Relegated trio will be relatively poor, but the promoted trio - if it's Bristol City, Preston and MK - will be better than usual. Though not as good as this year.
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I hear most years that a league will be 'harder' (the Donny season probably being the exception).
On paper there are a lot of good teams with potential to do well, but as the season goes on a lot fall away, and then are just more 'mid-table' teams. I don't think it will be any stronger than this one. In fact this one is hard due to the amount of teams up there. Usually it's a lot more spread out, when this year it isn't. While teams will 'know us', we'll be changing manager and bringing in players to improve us. I would expect our weaknesses to be plugged and better players to be brought in (that's not slagging any of the current crop off).
One bad game for Norwich or Bournemouth can affect the whole promotion race, very tight and difficult this year.
On paper there are a lot of good teams with potential to do well, but as the season goes on a lot fall away, and then are just more 'mid-table' teams. I don't think it will be any stronger than this one. In fact this one is hard due to the amount of teams up there. Usually it's a lot more spread out, when this year it isn't. While teams will 'know us', we'll be changing manager and bringing in players to improve us. I would expect our weaknesses to be plugged and better players to be brought in (that's not slagging any of the current crop off).
One bad game for Norwich or Bournemouth can affect the whole promotion race, very tight and difficult this year.
JCMcBee
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...we've hit the crossbar then scored from the rebound the following season in the past......we can do it again.
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sonofabee
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I believe because I have faith in MB that we will look to prepare properly and be in a good position to challenge for a top 6 slot if we don't get there this season.
My one concern is that I honestly believe there are some bigger and better supported clubs that have horrendously underperformed and cannot imagine they will all fare as badly for a second season on the spin.
I expect that while we'll strengthen even if we lose the likes of Pritchard and maybe a couple of our own youngsters, others will have more spending power to improve or indeed are better equipped to get more out of the players who failed to deliver this time around.
Guess if Sunderland should come down they'll be there or thereabouts and then consider that likely at least two of Boro, Derby, Norwich, Wolves or Ipswich will be in the mix again next season added to which I imagine Forest, Fulham and Reading will finish higher than this season.
Throw in two from Leicester, Burnley, Hull, the lot by Wormwood scrubs, maybe even Villa and it suggests that we will definitely have to improve to even stay where we are this season.
Sure we will and not complaining about our lot anymore, just want to finish with two wins and see where we are.
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With the gap between premiership and championship widening and more teams with parachute payments playing in the second tier it will inevitably get harder , not so worried about teams coming up. What really matters is what we do in the summer and if we learn from this season
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MW is right to give his side of the story. This season (MW's first and sadly only full season in charge) is reminiscent of Uwe's first full season when we just missed out on the play offs. Two fundamental differences: Uwe was given a chance to move the team on the following season and he was not shown the exit door with a third of his first full season to go! Under those circumstances MW and the team have done a remarkable job in securing at least a top 8 finish with a points tally even with 2 games left which would have merited the play offs in seasons gone by. Neil Lennon was the latest to declare his admiration for MW for this achievement. I for one take the observations of someone of that stature in the game very seriously.
In seasons gone by you could have argued that many of Brentford's long suffering supporters have deserved success and promotion in many ways more than the team itself as a reward for their faithfulness. For me this season the pendulum has swung the other way - it is the faithfulness of the management and the team and the excellent results and beautiful football that deserves the promotion whilst a number of fans are succumbing to delusions of grandeur.....
In seasons gone by you could have argued that many of Brentford's long suffering supporters have deserved success and promotion in many ways more than the team itself as a reward for their faithfulness. For me this season the pendulum has swung the other way - it is the faithfulness of the management and the team and the excellent results and beautiful football that deserves the promotion whilst a number of fans are succumbing to delusions of grandeur.....
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NorthamptonBee
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Wow, where are the people who hate the phrase of "Don't get it!"
Bangor Bee
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Oh dear what? Some of the comments from our supporters are reminiscent of those Arsenal fans who come on the radio bemoaning their lot.
jlove
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You've missed the words "owner", "budget" and "cheque-book" from your observations.
wanderer paul
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I hope that, when MW moves on to pastures new, more can be said about the goings on at BFC.......... Maybe?!
As it all normally comes out in the end.
As it all normally comes out in the end.
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In the words of Vinnie Jones "do you want me to draw you picture?"
wanderer paul
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No cheque book. Bankers drafts or bank transfers!! Some may have been PayPal, in NP's case.......
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The Pipe
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As I understand it MW's side of the story is a trifle disengenuous as it stands at present
The full facts may come out one day, but I doubt we will ever fully know
For now however I would suggest you scroll back through a lot of pages and read what some well informed posters have written and then make your comments
Personally I have no axe to grind with MW he has done well but could have done better and that will remain a regret
sonofabee
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Please tell me you have been away and only managed to get an update from a friend of Warbs or maybe Hypa - I can't be bothered to take it apart line for line so in summary, if MW didn't have MB providing strategy and funds he wouldn't be in a job in the first place. He decided he didn't agree with MB's strategy at some stage before the transfer window and chose not to comply or be part of the future structure. Neil Lennon is a dick and it's easy to be generous in praise when you've just stolen a share of the points, I wonder if he'd have sung MW's praises if we'd scored after not returning the ball back to their players after the centre half feigned injury to avoid a second yellow? I somehow doubt it!
If the owner believes we would have increased our odds of promotion by signing identified targets in January so do I. It looks now as if the manager made a mistake believing we would be strong enough without those players and recently the results haven't been as excellent as they might have been and the football hasn't been as beautiful. If you believe our last three home games and Sheff Weds away fall into either category you maybe the delusional one.
Let's all hope the excellent results and beautiful football we all remember this season return for another 5 games and the clubs above us make that possible by blowing it in last two games.
