Another Manager Poll

[vcmazz]

I can't believe 'Director Of Football' has got the highest vote lol. Surely 'Director Of Football' is just a kind term for an old codger that no longer has his marbles but is too well loved to put out to grass? :shrug:

 

[Ambrose_1889]

I can't believe 'Director Of Football' has got the highest vote lol. Surely 'Director Of Football' is just a kind term for an old codger that no longer has his marbles but is too well loved to put out to grass? :shrug:

I'd sooner see Forster on his own than working with/under a 'Director of Football'. Bad idea IMO.

 

[scruff puppy pup]

Funny how taylors left. I rekon maybe peter taylor as director of football but god i hope not!!!!!! I think its a strong possibilty though!!!

Not surprising at all, I predicted it a month ago.
You only have to have kept an eye on their results/position in the table for the past year.
Don't be surprised if Gary Johnson goes there.

 

[Bigbee]

I'd sooner see Forster on his own than working with/under a 'Director of Football'. Bad idea IMO.

Dunno,maybe ,Just think he needs an older experienced head to call when necessary . Phone a friend ," Hello ,is that Sir Alex Fergie ? What do I do with Spills ? Also not impressed with the Sunderland kid ,broke him after a day ,got any one else we could use ? "

 

[Twickenhamben]

We've no chance with Di Matteo or Hughton who will both be snapped up at the top end of the Championship and I can't see why Curbishley would want a big new challenge at this stage of his life (he certainly won't need the money).

I think Forster deserves the job until the end of the season. We're playing good football under him and he's given GP a lift. Is he a long term prospect? Possibly and especially if he's got a taste for it but I rather think he'll want 2 more seasons playing (managers always say that there's no substitute for playing and you miss it when you retire). I'm not sure a new manager would want to come in with the shadow of Forster in the background either.That said perhaps an old pro would be happy to accept an upstairs job with Forster looking after the day to day coaching (and still playing a bit). How about Ray Wilkins as Director of Football with Forster as first team coach? He was clearly very influential at Chelsea and while he's got a poor managerial record a less hands on managerial role with Forster running the club day to day could be interesting.

 

[scruff puppy pup]

The criteria of manager we are looking for has not been revealed, but I would wager Johnson is not in the magic "list of 6"

I hope you're not right.
With his track record at this level, GJ would have every right to be miffed if he's not on it.
Whoever takes over has to be able to sport the right talent to get us out of this division. It would have to be a pretty impressive list to find six names better than Gary Johnson.
Okay, if Keith Hill is one of them, that would help.

 

[Bee4ever]

How predictable that Nicky Forster is leading..........interesting that so far MA has more votes than Gary Johnson

 

[Leicester Bee]

NF till end of season. If he learns and understands how to cope with players not following his instructions, and what to do when the team isn't playing so well, then fantastic. He clearly has a more relaxed nature, allowing players to flourish, but that style has its drawbacks too, and if he knows how to cope with that, then we will have a young, hungry manager again. If he fails, then an experienced head would be wiser, but whatever happens, I hope that they can prove to the board that they are adaptable, understand the impact of either playing to a rigid system or playing with more freedom. There are pro's and cons to playing to systems or with freedom, and many managers simply come across as too stubborn to adapt. We need a manager who is not so stubborn, can motivate players, and get his instructions across to them. It really doesn't matter whether that is NF, Gary Johnson, or whoever. We just need the kind of manager who is different to Scotty, and bring out the best in our players, and know what to do when things aren't going our way. That may well be NF and he should currently be in pole position. If he performs well till end of the season, then we should support his appointment.
All this Martin Allen stuff is, frankly, out of the question. As a quick fix, maybe, but never for the long-term. He is too over-bearing as a personality, and the current squad does not need an over-bearing manager in my opinion. I am sure the board will take into consideration many aspects that may not be obvious as criteria as the BFC manager.

 

[vcmazz]

How predictable that Nicky Forster is leading..........interesting that so far MA has more votes than Gary Johnson

Quite simple really. Those that don't understand that Martin Allen is the man for the job initially voted for Gary Charisma. But now Nicky Forster has strung a few results together, many have switched from the Fry-like one to the Forstmeister :shrug:.

 

[flowerpower bee]

How about Ray Wilkins as Director of Football with Forster as first team coach? He was clearly very influential at Chelsea and while he's got a poor managerial record a less hands on managerial role with Forster running the club day to day could be interesting.

it's an interesting idea, but hasn't wilkins already ruled himself out?

 

[Ambrose_1889]

We've no chance with Di Matteo or Hughton who will both be snapped up at the top end of the Championship and I can't see why Curbishley would want a big new challenge at this stage of his life (he certainly won't need the money).

I think Forster deserves the job until the end of the season. We're playing good football under him and he's given GP a lift. Is he a long term prospect? Possibly and especially if he's got a taste for it but I rather think he'll want 2 more seasons playing (managers always say that there's no substitute for playing and you miss it when you retire). I'm not sure a new manager would want to come in with the shadow of Forster in the background either.That said perhaps an old pro would be happy to accept an upstairs job with Forster looking after the day to day coaching (and still playing a bit). How about Ray Wilkins as Director of Football with Forster as first team coach? He was clearly very influential at Chelsea and while he's got a poor managerial record a less hands on managerial role with Forster running the club day to day could be interesting.

lol

God no. For a start, he's ruled himself out but he believes in a similar brand of football as that of Scott and Allen.

No to Director of Football, full stop You can't have two people trying to do the same job.

Also, it's dissapointing to see people like Hill and Curbishley with so few votes compared to Allen and Johnson.

 

[vcmazz]

You can't have two people trying to do the same job.

You wouldn't have :shrug:. The manager would be running the football team and the Director Of Football would be drinking lots of brandy, trying to swat imaginary flies and struggling to remember his own children's names. Because that's what a Director Of Football does :shrug:. 'Director Of Football' indeed . Whatever next? Lineswomen?

 

[letsgotolourdes]

How predictable that Nicky Forster is leading..........interesting that so far MA has more votes than Gary Johnson

I've said it before but the job will go to Nicky Forster because he's the cheapest option, just as it went to Andy Scott for the same reason, things are going well at the moment but Nicky Forster just doesn't have the managerial experience in the long run, give it a year to eighteen months and the same people that are now beating down the gates of Griffin park clamouring for Nicky Forster to be given the job will be shouting for him to be given the elbow.

 

[horshambees]

Nicky Forster would be the first to admit that in the event of accepting the position of 1st team manager,that he would need an older more experienced man as his right hand man.Who that would be im not to sure.For all i know NF has got his own idea of who he wants as his assistant manager while MW retains his post as 1st team coach.It has to be someone who shares the same philosophy on how Fozzie would like his teams to play and im afraid i think that it has come to a point where it has become not impossible but unlikely that a new manager has to follow his assistants way of thinking.GJ has his way and NF has his way and i do not think they are similar and more importantly,in the short term at least,how would the players respond to lets say GJ parking the bus style of football when NF would be prepared to take the game to the opposition in the way he has done since Scotts departure.Keegan had Arthur Cox as his mentor and i no doubt that Fozzie has the same and if thats the case then its up to the board to make that appointment of Nicky Forster permanent and if he hasn't then our board of directors should find him someone and quick.

 

[Ambrose_1889]

I've said it before but the job will go to Nicky Forster because he's the cheapest option, just as it went to Andy Scott for the same reason, things are going well at the moment but Nicky Forster just doesn't have the managerial experience in the long run, give it a year to eighteen months and the same people that are now beating down the gates of Griffin park clamouring for Nicky Forster to be given the job will be shouting for him to be given the elbow.

If Forster does get the job, it won't be because he's the cheapest option. When will people start to realise we're not that sort of club anymore. As abee said, the cheapest option would have been for Scott to stay.

Let's say Forster does get the job now, I just have visions of people on here moaning "same old brentford, always taking the cheap/easy option!"

 

[horshambees]

If Forster does get the job, it won't be because he's the cheapest option. When will people start to realise we're not that sort of club anymore. As abee said, the cheapest option would have been for Scott to stay.

Let's say Forster does get the job now, I just have visions of people on here moaning "same old brentford, always taking the cheap/easy option!"

It doesn't matter who gets the job because the final decision will upset many.Wether it will be Fozzies lack of experience,despite the football,or the fact that some people want Martin Allen back and lets face it ,what is MA going to bring to Brentford? that we do not know because he hasn't been in a management position for quite a while now.Is he the same man as in 2004 or has he matured slightly.Has he improved or gone backwards? what sort of players would he sign? questions that require answering.Gary Johnson what do we know about him really? not a lot apart from his record which is impressive and i can see why he is favourite in some lists.The football might not be great at times but were used to that so that shouldn't really matter to some.Whoever gets the job is going to annoy or even dismay people and that includes me as well.

 

[south coast bees]

I wonder if charlton are regretting the Rookie option now,the honeymoon is over for Powell.
I voted for NF but after alot of thinking think that GJ would be a safter option now and not so much a gamble.

 

[thanetbee]

NF till end of season. If he learns and understands how to cope with players not following his instructions, and what to do when the team isn't playing so well, then fantastic. He clearly has a more relaxed nature, allowing players to flourish, but that style has its drawbacks too, and if he knows how to cope with that, then we will have a young, hungry manager again. If he fails, then an experienced head would be wiser, but whatever happens, I hope that they can prove to the board that they are adaptable, understand the impact of either playing to a rigid system or playing with more freedom. There are pro's and cons to playing to systems or with freedom, and many managers simply come across as too stubborn to adapt. We need a manager who is not so stubborn, can motivate players, and get his instructions across to them. It really doesn't matter whether that is NF, Gary Johnson, or whoever. We just need the kind of manager who is different to Scotty, and bring out the best in our players, and know what to do when things aren't going our way. That may well be NF and he should currently be in pole position. If he performs well till end of the season, then we should support his appointment.
All this Martin Allen stuff is, frankly, out of the question. As a quick fix, maybe, but never for the long-term. He is too over-bearing as a personality, and the current squad does not need an over-bearing manager in my opinion. I am sure the board will take into consideration many aspects that may not be obvious as criteria as the BFC manager.

NF is of course contracted to play. I understood for another 15 months or so? Thoughts of offering him the job short term, and then assessing again, and then bringing in someone over him seems to me to be risking destabilising the player and team and then potentially having the ex manager loitering around in the playing ranks for a season. I have no problem if he is offered the job but do not want one of these to the end of the season scenarios. It makes what is always a temporary job seem even more insecure.

The longer we leave an appointment the greater the uncertainty we are breeding. Would like to see an appointment in the next 7 days.

On another thought, wont we need him actually playing some games pretty soon?

 

[JTofBFC]

I wonder if charlton are regretting the Rookie option now,the honeymoon is over for Powell.
I voted for NF but after alot of thinking think that GJ would be a safter option now and not so much a gamble.

Rookie options often seem like a good idea at the time but rarely work out. The FL is littered with examples of caretakers who have been appointed after a good honeymoon period and last less than a year. (latest example only this week when Neil Woods was sacked at Grimsby (not in the FL I know !) ).

NF looks like he has what it takes to be a good manager but would surely benefit from a period of understudy to someone experienced.

 

[Stanley]

Rookie options often seem like a good idea at the time but rarely work out. The FL is littered with examples of caretakers who have been appointed after a good honeymoon period and last less than a year. (latest example only this week when Neil Woods was sacked at Grimsby (not in the FL I know !) )..

True but there plenty of examples of the caretaker manager getting the job and doing well, look at Eddie Howe. Seems NF already has his wise right hand man in Warburton. My guess is the real test for NF is after we lose a game, but for the moment maybe its as simple as if it aint broke don't fix it.

 

[brighton bee]

I really hope we don't appoint Forster as it woul be too big a gamble-but every win makes it harder to see another option.

I just worry what will happen once the honeymoon period starts to wear off, and I hope the board can come to a decision one way or another soon

 

[JTofBFC]

True but there plenty of examples of the caretaker manager getting the job and doing well, look at Eddie Howe. Seems NF already has his wise right hand man in Warburton. My guess is the real test for NF is after we lose a game, but for the moment maybe its as simple as if it aint broke don't fix it.

I think the reality is there are a few examples of caretakers succeeding like Eddie Howe but lots of examples of it not working out. At best it is a massive gamble and one I suggest we don't need to take. If there is an option of Nick Forster being a No 2 to someone experienced surely that gives us the best of both worlds.

 

[Beesfan]

Have I missed something here, but when has the role of director if football ever been a good thing??? or ever worked???

 

[beebopalula]

If NF isn't appointed, a new manager will have a difficult act to follow. Those who have craved for a manager whose mantra is playing football are now very happy and those who saw virtue in hoofball must have had second thoughts. So whoever comes in should be a football disciple IMO. Having tasted the true game again I don't want a route one merchant here. If we had lost to Tranmere I wouldn't have minded because we were trying whenever possible to get it down and play and if we lose that way, no complaints from me. The thing is though, that if you play football you'll win a lot more than you lose.

 

[JTofBFC]

Have I missed something here, but when has the role of director if football ever been a good thing??? or ever worked???

I think a lot of those who voted for DoF/Forster actually want a No 1 and No 2 situation with Forster at No 2 to someone more experienced like Johnson. I know that would be my choice. We weren't given that option to vote for though so have had to go to the nearest. I agree with you about a DoF but Team Manager/Coach partnerships work perfectly well.

 

[brooks]

I'd like to see Forster involved. It would be typical that we get someone else who turns out to be useless and Forster does well elsewhere.

 

[Brentford_till_die]

If NF isn't appointed, a new manager will have a difficult act to follow. Those who have craved for a manager whose mantra is playing football are now very happy and those who saw virtue in hoofball must have had second thoughts. So whoever comes in should be a football disciple IMO. Having tasted the true game again I don't want a route one merchant here. If we had lost to Tranmere I wouldn't have minded because we were trying whenever possible to get it down and play and if we lose that way, no complaints from me. The thing is though, that if you play football you'll win a lot more than you lose.

Agree

 

[The Pipe]

If NF isn't appointed, a new manager will have a difficult act to follow. Those who have craved for a manager whose mantra is playing football are now very happy and those who saw virtue in hoofball must have had second thoughts. So whoever comes in should be a football disciple IMO. Having tasted the true game again I don't want a route one merchant here. If we had lost to Tranmere I wouldn't have minded because we were trying whenever possible to get it down and play and if we lose that way, no complaints from me. The thing is though, that if you play football you'll win a lot more than you lose.

Well said totaly agree

 

[sonofabee]

I think the reality is there are a few examples of caretakers succeeding like Eddie Howe but lots of examples of it not working out. At best it is a massive gamble and one I suggest we don't need to take. If there is an option of Nick Forster being a No 2 to someone experienced surely that gives us the best of both worlds.

Agree, no rush appointment, the criteria and selection process needs to result in us having the best chance of gaining promotion and consolidating in The Championship.
NF has done fantastic in the short term as caretaker and looks to have a future in the game but IMHO we need someone with proven credentials involved in some capacity.

 

[Westlad]

Have I missed something here, but when has the role of director if football ever been a good thing??? or ever worked???

Man Utd have a director of football but other than that it doesn't.

 

[readingbee]

Liked what I saw of Nicky today, very calm didn't shout at anyone just encouraged the team to play the ball, which they certainly tried to. Thought his substitutions were spot on today. Quite impressed.

 

[North London Bee]

Did everything right today. We played football when we could, kept our shape and defended well, the spirit was good, we were disciplined and the 3 subs all improved things so 10/10 for NF

 

[wayfarer172]

Just been watching Nicky's interveiw on BeesPlayer. You cant help but admire this guy. He comes over as such a decent guy, and a man you can trust. The new choice of manager is so critical as we all know , but someone is going to have a hard call to make soon.Do we stick with NF till the end of the season? Do we bring in an experienced guy to work with Nicky? I'm glad I'm not making the final decision. Even Mark Warburton has the respect of the players according to Nicky. Having NF as as the new manager doesn't worry me at all. We all have to start somewhere, and he said he is beginning to enjoy the role.Interesting days at GP. I cant wait for an announcement to be made.

 

[super stanley]

Just been watching Nicky's interveiw on BeesPlayer. You cant help but admire this guy. He comes over as such a decent guy, and a man you can trust. The new choice of manager is so critical as we all know , but someone is going to have a hard call to make soon.Do we stick with NF till the end of the season? Do we bring in an experienced guy to work with Nicky? I'm glad I'm not making the final decision. Even Mark Warburton has the respect of the players according to Nicky. Having NF as as the new manager doesn't worry me at all. We all have to start somewhere, and he said he is beginning to enjoy the role.Interesting days at GP. I cant wait for an announcement to be made.

Totally agree

 

[Salford Bee]

If we appoint Forster it won't be because he is the cheap option it will be because if it isn't broken then don't fix it.

 

[wanderer paul]

If we appoint Forster it won't be because he is the cheap option it will be because if it isn't broken then don't fix it.

He isn't the "cheap option" though :scratch:

That would be bringing AS back

 

[Bigbee]

Just been watching Nicky's interveiw on BeesPlayer. You cant help but admire this guy. He comes over as such a decent guy, and a man you can trust. The new choice of manager is so critical as we all know , but someone is going to have a hard call to make soon.Do we stick with NF till the end of the season? Do we bring in an experienced guy to work with Nicky? I'm glad I'm not making the final decision. Even Mark Warburton has the respect of the players according to Nicky. Having NF as as the new manager doesn't worry me at all. We all have to start somewhere, and he said he is beginning to enjoy the role.Interesting days at GP. I cant wait for an announcement to be made.

I listened this morning , I thought the interview actually deserved me starting a thread ! What a breath of fresh air Nicky is . I'd given up on the interviews until Nicky started as temp manager .I was fed up with " players not doing their jobs ,its not my fault blah blah blah " Same old sh*t after every game .Articulate ,intelligent with good back up in " Warbs " who's training sessions have been a revelation. Nicky aslo revealed that his side kick has a big black book of football contacts,nice timing Nicky !I feel he's edging into the role until the end of the season at least .It would take a brave man to look beyond him now imho .
The interview is worth the cost of Bees World on its own

 

[GP200]

I listened this morning , I thought the interview actually deserved me starting a thread ! What a breath of fresh air Nicky is . I'd given up on the interviews until Nicky started as temp manager .I was fed up with " players not doing their jobs ,its not my fault blah blah blah " Same old sh*t after every game .Articulate ,intelligent with good back up in " Warbs " who's training sessions have been a revelation. Nicky aslo revealed that his side kick has a big black book of football contacts,nice timing Nicky !I feel he's edging into the role until the end of the season at least .It would take a brave man to look beyond him now imho .
The interview is worth the cost of Bees World on its own

.............how much is the cost of Bees World on its own?????...............

 

[Salford Bee]

He isn't the "cheap option" though :scratch:

That would be bringing AS back

I said it wouldn't be the cheap option. Results suggest he'd be a safe option.

 

[The Pipe]

he is learning as he goes and currently you cant argue with what he has done, results are impressive and we are trying to play football rather than hoofball.

It is a massive learning curve for him and, like his predecessor he needs to work out ways to change the game as it evolves, yesterday and Tuesday I would have thought of increasing the number of players in midfield when we were getting pushed back, mind you we didnt and won both so perhaps he was right. However there will be games when it goes tits up and for Nickey if he can show that he can change things during the game then I reckon he will have ticked pretty well all the boxes.

Initialy I felt that it was too soon for him however he seems to be enjoying the role, the team are doing well, he has some contacts, as has Warburton, and with the loanees brought in has found a gem in Nielson, reckon the board have a difficult job now as week on week it is becoming more difficult to replace Nickey and I reckon it would need a pretty spectacular name eg Curbishley or similar, to justify the change.

 

[JOABee]

I dont see an argument against appointing him until the end of the season if things continue. We're unlikely to go down and are too far off the playoffs and with Forster doing well why change it? Can make the decision in the summer when a new manager would be able to change the squad, cant see anyone else doing any better with the current set of players than Forster is.

 

[Caucaunibuca]

I think appointing Forster until the end of the season is a no-lose situation and we can reassess the decision in May/June.

Until then, I think it would be suicidal to appoint him permanently and on a contract any longer than 2 years. He has had some success, but the only real test has been against MK Dons. With our squad of players we would expect to beat the likes of Argyle, Tranmere and Bris Rovers so I don't think NF is doing anything earth-shattering and isn't the revelation some are hyping/hoping him to be. OK, he still had to take charge and win said matches and the mood of the players seems to have changed, however we all expected that when the doom and gloom of AS was dismissed.

Some good results shouldn't hide the fact that he isn't qualified or experienced and this could still be considered a honeymoon period. Just hope we don't knee jerk and explore all options fully.

 

[Debut1949]

I think a lot of those who voted for DoF/Forster actually want a No 1 and No 2 situation with Forster at No 2 to someone more experienced like Johnson.QUOTE]

I voted for an appointment of Nicky Forster or a DoF/Forster alternative on the basis that the DofF would be an older, part-time, back-office mentor to Nicky Forster. For the DofF the only person that I had in mind as acceptable was Steve Coppell and I certainly would not want to see someone like Gary Johnson in that role as I doubt that at his stage in the game he would confine himself to such a role If Steve Coppell cannot be persuaded to fulfil that role, assuming that he is prepared to accept the position, I would like to see Nicky Forster appointed on a long-term contract asap with his being left to appoint his own assistant.

Although I have never met or spoken to Nicky Forster everything that I have seen, read or heard of or about him since he first pulled on the Brentford shirt almost seventeen years ago cries out to me that he is a "stand out" candidate to take Brentford forward playing the best quality football that its resources at any time will allow. Why even his programme notes yesterday were coherent and revealed an empathy with the club, the players and the fans - a feat that not many managers manage to achieve- whilst his team tried wherever possible to play good, passing football even though the condition of the pitch made that difficult.

 

[jlove]

Take a look at Oldham's run since they beat us: W 1; D 5; L 3, not scored in 5 and shipped 5 at home to Peterborough yesterday. Rookie manager. The test of a good manager is how you get out of a situation like that; NF has not yet had that sort of test (not that I wish it).

 

[favershambee]

I like NF's outlook on how football should be played. I expect to lose some matches with this style of play but at least I don't leave Griffin Park anymore with the feeling why am I travelling from Faversham to watch this rubbish. The points are clocking up towards the total 51-54 target,
lets enjoy the journey. Whoever they appoint NO HOOFBALL PLEASE!!!!

 

[letsgotolourdes]

I think appointing Forster until the end of the season is a no-lose situation and we can reassess the decision in May/June.

Until then, I think it would be suicidal to appoint him permanently and on a contract any longer than 2 years. He has had some success, but the only real test has been against MK Dons. With our squad of players we would expect to beat the likes of Argyle, Tranmere and Bris Rovers so I don't think NF is doing anything earth-shattering and isn't the revelation some are hyping/hoping him to be. OK, he still had to take charge and win said matches and the mood of the players seems to have changed, however we all expected that when the doom and gloom of AS was dismissed.



Spot on, a lot of people are getting carried away after the last few months of Andy Scott, Forster til the end of the season and then appoint somebody who's got a proven managerial track record. To give Nicky Forster a 2 year contract or more would be madness within 18 months would be in the same position as we were with Andy Scott, good start but gradually the lack of managerial experience will tell.

 

[Brentford 4 Life]

Have I missed something here, but when has the role of director if football ever been a good thing??? or ever worked???

I think it works well abroad. Not my success in England though. I think Forster should have another 3-4 games. If we continue to do well then perhaps give him till the end of the season. If the honeymoon ends then make a change. Its not that simple though is it. I really wouldnt wanna be the person who has to make the decision on the new manager. Very hard indeed.

 

[Freebee]

I listened this morning , I thought the interview actually deserved me starting a thread ! What a breath of fresh air Nicky is . I'd given up on the interviews until Nicky started as temp manager .I was fed up with " players not doing their jobs ,its not my fault blah blah blah " Same old sh*t after every game .Articulate ,intelligent with good back up in " Warbs " who's training sessions have been a revelation. Nicky aslo revealed that his side kick has a big black book of football contacts,nice timing Nicky !I feel he's edging into the role until the end of the season at least .It would take a brave man to look beyond him now imho .
The interview is worth the cost of Bees World on its own

 

[Bigbee]

.............how much is the cost of Bees World on its own?????...............

feck off

 

[Mick.C]

Forster is buying himself and the board plenty of time which is a win win situation for both parties and ultimately the club.

Nicky will be focussing on Tuesday and Saturday for sure now, so probably time for him and Warburton to cement their ideas on the team. Forster has indicated that he's media savvy so the sport science side of things, young manager methods, coming in, may be the way he goes.

He is using 20 years of playing to plant some seeds of thought in the players, he's a good talker, logical in his outlook and at this point in time, the floor is his. He and Warburton are ticking each box for the moment, the test comes in the game after the first defeat.

My opinion for what it's worth would be the cv's may be whittled down to the final six, but will probably sit in the pending tray for the next 10 days at least. I wonder if the board will ask Nicky and Warbs to present a playing/budget plan for next season?