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Exactly,

People are banging on about get out there and find them from non league but don't realise that if they ahve any pedigree they cost money...Kightly, McLean, Boyd all over £100K + wages.

Last close season we picked up a proven goalscorer at that level in Moore and he isn't what we need yet and may never be. Luke Rodgers isn't what we really need but has scored goals, he cost £30K + long contrcat and didn't want to move too far south, Cheltenham have signed that pony Connor who is only a sub for Orient for £25K for god knows how long.

We have to face facts, what we want i.e. a fit,proven goalscorer at our level we can't afford and so whatever we get will be a gamble and I'd rather Fitz carried on looking rather than signing up the first available to appease fans only for them to turn on him a week later when not up to the job.

Unfortunately what we are probably going to end up with if we buy a striker is someone from further down the non league ladder who has showed promise but is a punt or a loanee but they appear few and far between with everyone trying to get hold of Barnard.

I'm just praying that somewhere out there some divine intervention occurs and Fitz manages to unearth a gem like DJ who starts scoring the minute he joins.

We can all dream

Moore is considerably better than Willock. IMHO.
 

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Moore is considerably better than Willock. IMHO.

but he's injured so he wouldn't have played anyway................ i agree though about Moore over Willock.............
 

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It's Friday 19th Jan and still no forward on the horizon..................i think we're being fobbed off !!
 

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Moore is considerably better than Willock. IMHO.
I wouldn't disagree, personally I'd rather see Moore start than Willock as well.

What I'm saying is he hasn't been the answer either and yet he came highly rated with a proven track record. I'd be delighted if he suddenly got a decent run of games and we saw a return on investment.
 

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He could of. Unfortunately he chosen a team that are top of the league.

Hopefully this will help a few people understand why we are having problems getting a striker in
 

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It's Friday 19th Jan and still no forward on the horizon..................i think we're being fobbed off !!

Wijnhard is available, maybe we could use his experience. :rolleyes:
 

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Wijnhard is available, maybe we could use his experience. :rolleyes:

i'd prefer Holdsworth to come back than that waste of space...................
 

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i'd prefer Holdsworth to come back than that waste of space...................

Thats the point though, the type of forward available tend to be more Wijnhard types. They are not better than what we have so why bother?
 

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Utter rubbish.

He's had three weeks since the transfer window opened, plus 4 weeks before then to look, and we are still waiting for our Center Forward. You must love going every week knowing we are not going to score and enjoying it, because I don't and it hurts.
 

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He's had three weeks since the transfer window opened, plus 4 weeks before then to look, and we are still waiting for our Center Forward. You must love going every week knowing we are not going to score and enjoying it, because I don't and it hurts.

Who have we missed out on that is better than we have? :fishing:
 

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Who have we missed out on that is better than we have? :fishing:

Yep good point but their are some that could have done a job, a couple here John Murphy, Wayne Andrews, Neil Harris, Matt Richards. I apologise for jumping in with both feet. Maybe the wait will be worth it.
 

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He's had three weeks since the transfer window opened, plus 4 weeks before then to look, and we are still waiting for our Center Forward. You must love going every week knowing we are not going to score and enjoying it, because I don't and it hurts.

But Fitz enjoys it? Don't be a fool
 

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Yep good point but their are some that could have done a job, a couple here John Murphy, Wayne Andrews, Neil Harris, Matt Richards. I apologise for jumping in with both feet. Maybe the wait will be worth it.


John Murphy was decent enough a couple of years back but has struggled with injuries. He has signed for Macclesfield where he has been on loan since October, so don't think we missed out there.
Wayne Andrews was signed by Coventry never played a game and is now being loaned to Bristol City, doubt we could compete with them on his signiture.
Neil Harris has been playing pretty much the last 2 seasons as a wideman and is reported to have been on fair wack at Forest, so no doubt Millwall are paying him more than we can afford. Will check that out though as he is friends of a colleague I used to work with. :sorted:
Matt Richards :confused: Do you mean the 5ft 8inch full back at Ipswich?
 
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John Murphy was decent enough a couple of years back but has struggled with injuries. He has signed for Macclesfield where he has been on loan since October, so don't think we missed out there.
Wayne Andrews was signed by Coventry never played a game and is now being loaned to Bristol City, doubt we could compete with them on his signiture.
Neil Harris has been playing pretty much the last 2 seasons as a wideman and is reported to have been on fair wack at Forest, so no doubt Millwall are paying him more than we can afford. Will check that out though as he is friends of a colleague I used to work with. :sorted:
Matt Richards :confused: Do you mean the 5ft 8inch full back at Ipswich?


No the Barnsley Striker that's just signed for Port Vale, sorry it was Marc Richards. Ok I'll admit defeat to you in this one for now.
 

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No the Barnsley Striker that's just signed for Port Vale, sorry it was Marc Richards. Ok I'll admit defeat to you in this one for now.


The one who hasn't gone to Port Vale as Constantine hasn't gone to Barnsley.

Richards looked a right prospect at Northampton but injury messed him up and I can't believe how well he did/has done at Barnsley. Obviously not in their plans anymore.
 

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What about the big target man at Orient who scored against - Ibehre??

Only if he accepts £1000 basic plus bonuses.
 

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The one who hasn't gone to Port Vale as Constantine hasn't gone to Barnsley.

Richards looked a right prospect at Northampton but injury messed him up and I can't believe how well he did/has done at Barnsley. Obviously not in their plans anymore.

I think they reluctantly agreed to let him go to get Constantine
 

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Yep good point but their are some that could have done a job, a couple here John Murphy, Wayne Andrews, Neil Harris, Matt Richards. I apologise for jumping in with both feet. Maybe the wait will be worth it.
Harris has not performed at either Gillingham or Forest and is living on his rep from before he was cruelly struck down in his hey day @ Millwall.

Andrews never got a chance to play @ Cov and so how could we offer a deal to someone who hasn't played first team football for a struggling championship side this season.

Jon Murphy may once have been a good shout but again he's plyed his trade up North with unremarkable results and is injury prone.

Not having a go but none of these would have filled me with hope and expectation that they would be any better than we already have. Fact is it's difficult to find a decent striker anywhere, let alone one who wants to join a struggling side paying less money on shorter contracts in an expensive area to relocate to.
 

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What about the big target man at Orient who scored against - Ibehre??

Only if he accepts £1000 basic plus bonuses.

:D Orient will want at least £500K for him. :sorted:
 

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What about the big target man at Orient who scored against - Ibehre??

Only if he accepts £1000 basic plus bonuses.
If we could get him I'd be delighted but worth pointing out that although he ripped us apart apparently he's only scored twice this season.

Could see him linking up well with Jo but how likely is he to leave one crap side to join another for a short term contract....unlikely
 

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Ibhere is sh*t, are you lot all on the windup or what :nono:

So he made mincemeat out of our back four, who hasn't FFS :wave:
 

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Ibhere is sh*t, are you lot all on the windup or what :nono:

So he made mincemeat out of our back four, who hasn't FFS :wave:

Willock it is then. Or should we go for one of countless CFs queuing up to join a club on the brink.

However Fitz has many premeiership contacts!:rolleyes:
 

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He's had three weeks since the transfer window opened, plus 4 weeks before then to look, and we are still waiting for our Center Forward. You must love going every week knowing we are not going to score and enjoying it, because I don't and it hurts.


Doesn't mean he hasn't been trying does it :wave:
 

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Willock it is then. Or should we go for one of countless CFs queuing up to join a club on the brink.

However Fitz has many premeiership contacts!:rolleyes:

What makes you think he's better than Willock mate (or Ide, or Peters for that matter) :confused:

No thanks i'd rather keep the money if that's the case!
 

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Premiership contacts bring young, unproven players.

Is this what we need :scratch:

Of course not. We just need Calum to stick around and contribute his usual 1 goal every 10 games. That should do the trick nicely.

Who needs managers with contacts. Pah:rolleyes:
 

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Of course not. We just need Calum to stick around and contribute his usual 1 goal every 10 games. That should do the trick nicely.

Who needs managers with contacts. Pah:rolleyes:

Our last Premiership youngster contributed none in the five games he played up front :wave:
 

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Play Griffiths up front.

Tell him to defend the oppositions goal.
 

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no new striker signing now so i wont go over that again as it's been said already. Tomorrow the front two will be JK and Pillock with charlie on the right wing. That's 2 players out of position. Ide is a striker and Pillock shouldn't be in the team at all as he contributes **** all. I wouldn't be surprised to see spoilt brat skulason in midfield with leary either
 

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Of course not. We just need Calum to stick around and contribute his usual 1 goal every 10 games. That should do the trick nicely.

Who needs managers with contacts. Pah:rolleyes:

What part of 'nobody wants to play for us' and 'nobody except Fitz would take the job on the terms being offered' do you fail to understand? You are making the same point, again and again, on what seems like ten different threads, and do not show any signs of having come to terms with these two fairly significant factors in our current strikerless situation. What is your suggestion now? Not six months ago, not one month ago; now.
 

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I can see what KtofBFC is talking about, many good players or players we are looking for would want to come to Brentford looking at our current position in the table and the wages and also the expenses of living around the Brentford/Chiswick area. However there are players who probably would like to join our club, but probably in contracts etc. All complications, its not easy as 1 2 3.
 

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I can see what KtofBFC is talking about, NOT many good players or players we are looking for would want to come to Brentford looking at our current position in the table and the wages and also the expenses of living around the Brentford/Chiswick area. However there are players who probably would like to join our club, but probably in contracts etc. All complications, its not easy as 1 2 3.

I have taken the liberty of inserting a single word (in bold) into your post which forces it to make some sense; correct me if I'm wrong to do so.
 

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Premiership contacts bring young, unproven players.

Is this what we need :scratch:

The problem is us fans were sold the idea by a well known hack that the manager had good list of prem clubs willing to help. I think it was on the job criteria also.

What I had hoped for was the next Defoe, Merson or Stokes.

I am now of the opinion though that our team is so crap, no club would risk sending a decent player to us in case they pick up our crapness.:D
 

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If we can get a striker signed by Tuesday lunchtime, hopefully that will give the side a lift and we may be able to beat Carlisle on Tuesday, and go into the weekend trying to make it a double. Then anything is possibly, we are not finished yet, close but no yet.
 

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In Non-League Paper, "Want away Welling striker Danny Kedwell has pleaded with fans to get off his back. ........the 23year old says he needs full-time football because he is on the verge of losing his job........Grays have had £10000 bid turned down and Bristol Rovers and ....BRENTFORD are both said to be still interested........`I`m not chasing money`.........`I have a family to support. It`s the right time for me to go into full-time football`".

Who knows!!!!!!!!
 

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If we can get a striker signed by Tuesday lunchtime, hopefully that will give the side a lift and we may be able to beat Carlisle on Tuesday, and go into the weekend trying to make it a double. Then anything is possibly, we are not finished yet, close but no yet.

Sorry I know Carlisle is Saturday, my mistake.:nono:
 

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In Non-League Paper, "Want away Welling striker Danny Kedwell has pleaded with fans to get off his back. ........the 23year old says he needs full-time football because he is on the verge of losing his job........Grays have had £10000 bid turned down and Bristol Rovers and ....BRENTFORD are both said to be still interested........`I`m not chasing money`.........`I have a family to support. It`s the right time for me to go into full-time football`".

Who knows!!!!!!!!

Not that impressed from what I saw when he played against Basingstoke !!
 

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Sad but true, as Roy Orbison once said "it's over"

Whatever, but I'm fed up of hearing that we aren't a big enough catch and can't afford to appoint a decent manager and we can't attract any quality players as they don't want to play for us.

Its not as simple as that - scrimping on the Manager has proved to be a false economy and having made the mistake once, we then went and repeated it. It will end up costing us more in the long run than having got someone in with a better track record who would have cost more.

At the end of the day the whole thing boils down to the fact that we haven't got a pot to piss in and we can't go on for the next 5 years like that until Lionel Rd comes to fruition (if it ever does).

It isn't working (and by "IT" I mean the whole model we are owned and managed under) and maybe the penny for some will only finally drop when they read on Sky Sports that we are mathematically down. Football is a rich mans plaything in this country. It is sad that it is the case but the vast sums of money coming into the game for TV at the highest level make the stakes big and the knock on effect is felt all the way down the leagues. None of the various clubs who have tried fan ownership have succeeded at it and we are the latest who have failed - we just haven't admitted it yet, even to ourselves. You will be able to verify that by the replies to this shortly from BU people (along the "where is this billionaire coming from then" theme).

I for one won't be calling for Scott F to stay in the post after this season and I am baffled by the logic of those who think he has the qualifications, contacts and the experience to get us out of League 2. There is one way he will take us out of League 2 though but let's not risk that eh.

In the meantime, Yeovil is a game we MUST MUST win. How many of you have checked the table recently.

Yeovil v Brentford
Millwall v Rotherham
Orient v Blackpool
Bournemouth v Huddersfield

If 2 of the other 3 are home wins and we lose then we have to make up 10 points in 17 games having also played 1 or 2 games more.

The game is up at that stage and we may as well send all our loanees back and save the money.

So how many of you really think that getting a striker in today isn't vital !! Next week could be too late. If the recovery doesn't start tomorrow it doesn't start at all.

Today we probably have about a 10-15% chance of staying up. By tomorrow, it could be 1%.

With a striker not having been acquired in the first 17 days of the transfer window , the Fighting Chance money has been well and truly wasted. Those of you think time is on our side and we can leisurely pick one up on the 31st of Jan are the ones who are deluded.
 

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Rip it up and start again.

Agree with everything JT of BFC said, basically we're down, something I thought was on the cards after the 0-4 to Crewe, however much we all wanted it to BU is not working and it's time to swallow our pride and start anew, the club now finds itself in it's worst position on and off the pitch since 1967. I've previously put forward the point to actively seek investors/new owners and as usual as JT says the merchants of doom and negativity hit back with name one person who wants to throw millions of pounds away. Like it or not the only way out of this mess is to take a chance with new owners/investors, ok we take a chance with someone coming in and ripping us off and selling us down the river, (nothing new there then) but as it stands now we're standing on the precipice led by a group of Brentford supporters and before any of you hit back with "what are you doing to try and improve things apart from knocking BU", I am engaged in actively writing to high profile entrepreneurs in and out of football to see if they can help either themselves or with names of people who may be interested in investing, it's not much but it's a start and I think it's a positive one, rather than just posting replies, like " Give it up, there's no potential investors out there", there's no potential investors out there because we haven't F*****G looked for any!
 

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Agree with everything JT of BFC said, basically we're down, something I thought was on the cards after the 0-4 to Crewe, however much we all wanted it to BU is not working and it's time to swallow our pride and start anew, the club now finds itself in it's worst position on and off the pitch since 1967. I've previously put forward the point to actively seek investors/new owners and as usual as JT says the merchants of doom and negativity hit back with name one person who wants to throw millions of pounds away. Like it or not the only way out of this mess is to take a chance with new owners/investors, ok we take a chance with someone coming in and ripping us off and selling us down the river, (nothing new there then) but as it stands now we're standing on the precipice led by a group of Brentford supporters and before any of you hit back with "what are you doing to try and improve things apart from knocking BU", I am engaged in actively writing to high profile entrepreneurs in and out of football to see if they can help either themselves or with names of people who may be interested in investing, it's not much but it's a start and I think it's a positive one, rather than just posting replies, like " Give it up, there's no potential investors out there", there's no potential investors out there because we haven't F*****G looked for any!


great post. Agree with every word :sorted:
 
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